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RPI 2011-12 Part V: Don't Stop Believing

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rpi82 said:
I don't remember if he shot it down the ice after the whistle, but that wasn't the penalty. When he spiked it down from over his head the ref's arm went up immediately. He ruled that Brick closed his hand on it and threw it into the zone, which would have been a neat trick since he jumped slightly and batted it forward and down in one smooth motion. That's not the way someone catches and throws an object.

It was a terrible call and if he subsequently swept the puck down ice in disgust after the touch up I would not be surprised, but the ref had already made the call.
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That makes the most sense. He did shoot it down the ice but it may have just been the frustration. I mostly remember the sequence of the third period because once we went up 5-2 I just figured this one was over. It was my mistake though to think it was John Murphy-it was Dan.
 
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Senna said:
I had the watch the video a 2nd time because the 1st I couldnt help focusing on the BRO clearin' out the crease. Talk about getting manhandled.... Very Nice.
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Considering the refs, it's surprising that Curadi didn't get a penalty.
 
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Ralph Baer said:
Considering the refs, it's surprising that Curadi didn't get a penalty.
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Considering his record pre RPI-he has really held down the penalties. He has made considerable progress and has become a valuable member of this team. I know we can get called for all sorts of penalties just by the sound of the hit or the reaction of the crowd but I love to see how the opposition players react after Curadi, or Tinordi, or Malchuk hit them. The big problem that I see in the ECAC is that often times some officials simply call penalties by reputation.
 
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Ralph Baer said:
I wouldn't know. I am not within a foot or 100 lb of that. :D
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I won't grow to the height, but if I remain as sedentary as I have been this year and keep eating Jenny's fabulous cooking-I will approach the weight.:(
 
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Ralph Baer said:
I wouldn't know. I am not within a foot or 100 lb of that. :D
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I'm at about his weight (a little lighter when I first saw him play, a little heavier now), but 4 inches shorter. Daunting? A little bit, but it's all good. At least he's on our side. ;)
 
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I officially started my playoff beard Sunday morning. If we get anywhere past this first weekend i will need to purchase Touch of Grey or some shoe polish or else I will really look my age:eek:
 
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What the heck, I've got some free time.

Let's travel back nearly twenty years to that almost-glorious night in the Boston Garden . . .

This is the sequence of events in that third period:

03:01 SLU Penalty -- Roderick (slashing)
04:04 RPI Penalty -- Gabriel (high stick)
04:04 SLU Penalty -- LaPerriere (roughing)
05:20 RPI GOAL -- Borina [RPI 5-2]
05:55 RPI Penalty -- Dargaty (holding)
07:42 SLU GOAL -- Dent (power-play) [RPI 5-3]
12:38 SLU Penalty -- Carvel (high stick)
15:16 RPI Penalty -- Brick (throwing the puck)
16:16 SLU GOAL -- Albert (power-play) [RPI 5-4]
17:59 RPI Penalty -- Askew (holding)
19:24 SLU GOAL -- Dent (power-play) [Tie 5-5]


I was there doing color for WRPI with Pete Ungaro on play-by-play. Unfortunately, the archaic setup of the Boston Garden put radio about 10 feet towards the center from one of the nets and the Brick penalty occurred at the other end of the ice. So we didn't have a good view, particularly since it happened on the near side of the ice.

Pete and I did have a rulebook and I looked up the rule. The penalty was called when Brick knocked the puck with his hand at the blue line. The obvious question was whether he threw it or batted it and we couldn't tell from our angle.

As we reminisce twenty years later, one important thing to note is that the rule has changed. Pete and I, while not knowing if it truly was a throw, did determine that if he threw it then the minor penalty was correct.

I have a 90's era rulebook someplace in storage and I'm not going to get that, but the 2006 rulebook is likely the same language, because I remember it being very clear when I read it on the air:

In Section 19 (a) -- If the puck is caught and dropped immediately, play shall continue. If the puck is carried or held, play shall be stopped. If the puck is thrown, a minor penalty shall be assessed.

This entire section has since been altered. Now there is a penalty for throwing the puck out of the ice, but not for throwing it within the playing area. Currently play just stops and there is a face-off.

Some other thoughts I have on this trip down memory lane:

-- Most people forget the Carvel penalty in the third, with RPI still up by two. The whole third period wasn't simply an SLU power-play. RPI had two power plays in the period, SLU three. RPI had five for the game, SLU six.

-- After we got off the air, SLU radio informed us that in their semifinal the previous season, SLU was called for 'throwing the puck' against Cornell. So the call had been made before in a similar situation in the same building. (SLU won that game in overtime.)

-- I don't know if Brick threw the puck or not. I do know the Askew penalty was deserved. I don't think he ever took a penalty that wasn't deserved. RPI was lucky that night Askew hadn't perfected his spearing skills yet. I think he holds the RPI record for spearing penalties.

-- The much-maligned Dan Murphy also refereed the RPI-Harvard game the previous Saturday, which saw Body called for a penalty in overtime and RPI scored on the power-play to win it. There was less complaining about him that night.

-- Murphy probably wasn't a hero because he called a tripping penalty on Hilditch shortly after overtime started at Harvard. That was deserved as well. I was sitting next to Ralph Slate (of the Internet Hockey Database) and we both equally surprised he committed the trip and also surprised he hadn't taken a penalty in the third period. He took all of RPI's penalties that night and had a habit of going into the box at inopportune times.

-- That semifinal was the night the cable company in Troy used a timer to control the feed from Boston and set it to change the feed at midnight. Since both semifinals went into overtime, the RPI game extended past midnight and the signal cut out. They never got it back. The number of people listening to WRPI shot up shortly after midnight.

-- Finally, the last thing I remember that night was going to the team reception at their hotel in Cambridge and hanging out with the team, staff and fans. With everyone drinking like crazy. And Sean Kennedy walking away from the bar hugging a chest full of just-opened beer bottles at last call. Good times.
 
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Kurt: Thanks for getting it all together for us. 20 years is a long time to go by memory especially when Jenny and I were feeling no pain at Boston Garden that night.. Also remember Sean Kennedy very well-not one to pass up a party for sure. Our major question was the call on Jeff Brick and you have certainly helped with that. Whether it was a good or bad call will be argued for sure. What had started this was my post about John Murphy and the games he has officiated when we visited Cornell since 1999. It wasn't easy for me to keep the Murphys straight over the years.
 
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T minus 50 and counting...

RPI 2011-12 Part VI: And the Band Played On!
RPI 2011-12 Part VI: Get Right Back to Where We Started From!
 
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fr joe said:
T minus 50 and counting...

RPI 2011-12 Part VI: And the Band Played On!
RPI 2011-12 Part VI: Get Right Back to Where We Started From!
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I like the first one. The second doesn't make sense since we didn't start in Tampa. :p
 
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Ralph Baer said:
I like the first one. The second doesn't make sense since we didn't start in Tampa. :p
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You would have to be an old movie fan but...from the 1965 movie(Tony Curtis, Jack Lemmon, Natalie Wood-RIP)
RPI 2011-2012 Part VI: The Great Race reaches Potsdorf!
 
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kurt stutt said:
What the heck, I've got some free time.

Let's travel back nearly twenty years to that almost-glorious night in the Boston Garden . . .

This is the sequence of events in that third period:

15:16 RPI Penalty -- Brick (throwing the puck)
16:16 SLU GOAL -- Albert (power-play) [RPI 5-4]

I was there doing color for WRPI with Pete Ungaro on play-by-play. Unfortunately, the archaic setup of the Boston Garden put radio about 10 feet towards the center from one of the nets and the Brick penalty occurred at the other end of the ice. So we didn't have a good view, particularly since it happened on the near side of the ice.

Pete and I did have a rulebook and I looked up the rule. The penalty was called when Brick knocked the puck with his hand at the blue line. The obvious question was whether he threw it or batted it and we couldn't tell from our angle.

As we reminisce twenty years later, one important thing to note is that the rule has changed. Pete and I, while not knowing if it truly was a throw, did determine that if he threw it then the minor penalty was correct.

I have a 90's era rulebook someplace in storage and I'm not going to get that, but the 2006 rulebook is likely the same language, because I remember it being very clear when I read it on the air:

In Section 19 (a) -- If the puck is caught and dropped immediately, play shall continue. If the puck is carried or held, play shall be stopped. If the puck is thrown, a minor penalty shall be assessed.

This entire section has since been altered. Now there is a penalty for throwing the puck out of the ice, but not for throwing it within the playing area. Currently play just stops and there is a face-off.

-- After we got off the air, SLU radio informed us that in their semifinal the previous season, SLU was called for 'throwing the puck' against Cornell. So the call had been made before in a similar situation in the same building. (SLU won that game in overtime.)
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Thanks Kurt. I was on the other side near center ice so I can't ever be certain that Brick didn't commit a penalty, but i had a perfect view of his motion and it was not that of someone closing his hand and throwing something. It makes sense that they've since changed the rule since it is so hard to call and it's inconsistent that you can catch or even carry the puck to generate a stoppage in play but throwing it is a penalty.

Edit: As painful as the semi-loss was, that playoff run with Jeff Gabriel scoring an OT winner on a scramble in front of the net to stun Harvard (Is there anything better than shutting up an arrogant and self-entitled Harvard crowd?) was a thriller. Let's hope the boys can keep up the momentum and extend this season to AC.
 
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fr joe said:
RPI 2011-12 Part VI: Get Right Back to Where We Started From!
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I like it Padre, it was the song that the Charleston Chiefs sangs on the bus during road games in the movie Slap Shot!!!
 
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Part VI: We're RPI, we can't lose, we've got a lot of heart and we've got a lot of booze
 
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As posted from this week's Slap Schotts: https://www.dailygazette.com/weblog...e-hockey-slap-schotts-2011-12-week-20-a-wild/

I can only imagine what was going through the minds of RPI fans. Yes, they were happy the Engineers won. But they had to grit their teeth, knowing the Engineers helped the Dutchmen clinch first place. Of course, thanks to instant social media, RPI fans were quick to say, "You're welcome, Union." But I didn't see any Union fans Tweeting, "Thank you, RPI." That is rude not to do so.
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Also, from the RPI standpoint, he gives McGowan ROTW and Diebold GOTW.
 
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Yeah, it was so hard gritting our teeth while beating Cornell. So tough to handle, that one.
 
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