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RPI 2011-12 Part V: Don't Stop Believing

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I guess I count as a quasi-Ivy Leaguer since I went to Cornell for grad school. In Ithaca, the only significant on-going Ivy League hockey rivalry was with Harvard. That was a big game every year regardless of the standings. Beyond that Ivy League games were only important if the opponent was having a good season. If not, the games really weren't more significant than any other. In fact, given Ithaca's location, the excitement in the building from Colgate, RPI or Clarkson bringing in a good block of visiting fans generally outweighed most Ivy League contests.

Having been to many games (most vs. RPI and Cornell but not all) at the Yale Whale over the years, I can say the situation is similar there. The most significant rivals are Harvard (HY snobbery) and Cornell (traditional league power). The others don't generate that much incremental excitement.
 
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ajh258 said:
If ECAC auto-bid is first, RPI has not enjoyed since 1995.
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He's talking about the NCAA crown, which Cornell has not enjoyed since 1970.

Are we in the midst of an all out ivory tower assault here today or what?
 
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rpi82 said:
I guess I count as a quasi-Ivy Leaguer since I went to Cornell for grad school.
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Most Ivy Leaguers would say you'd count as a quasi-Ivy Leaguer if you went to Cornell for undergraduate.
 
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rpi82 said:
I guess I count as a quasi-Ivy Leaguer since I went to Cornell for grad school. In Ithaca, the only significant on-going Ivy League hockey rivalry was with Harvard. That was a big game every year regardless of the standings. Beyond that Ivy League games were only important if the opponent was having a good season. If not, the games really weren't more significant than any other. In fact, given Ithaca's location, the excitement in the building from Colgate, RPI or Clarkson bringing in a good block of visiting fans generally outweighed most Ivy League contests.

Having been to many games (most vs. RPI and Cornell but not all) at the Yale Whale over the years, I can say the situation is similar there. The most significant rivals are Harvard (HY snobbery) and Cornell (traditional league power). The others don't generate that much incremental excitement.
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Clarkson usually being the biggest deal of those three.
 
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redhead18 said:
That quote by Kelly caught my eye as well. As far as I can remember, I believe thats one of the first times Ive seen anything in print about the possibility of the Ivys spinning out their own league someday. JMO but I have a feeling that the ECAC isnt one big happy family at the moment and that theres a real chance we could see some changes coming in the future.

Also during the first intermission of the Time Warner broadcast last night they interviewed the Colgate athletic director to talk about Patriot League sports. Something he brought up besides the news that the football members can start using athletic scholarships beginning in 2013, is that the league is looking to expand by a couple members to round out numbers to make scheduling easier, etc... I know its been talked about before here but what do you think, should/could RPI look to make the jump and be in the Patriot League with American, Army, Bucknell, Colgate, Holy Cross, Lafayette, Lehigh and Navy? The football conference would look a little different (Bucknell, Colgate, Fordham, Georgetown, Holy Cross, Lafayette and Lehigh)
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As an FYI, an invitation was extended to RPI's President Jackson, to think about joining the Patriot League when the new stadium was built.
 
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css228 said:
Talk to me when you end a season with a national title and numbers other than zero in only the win column.
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TimV is a Cornell fan, like you. You should be taking your quarrel up with him, not me. He's the only person that's brought up national titles.

This is the third time today on this board I've been attacked for something someone else said, and it's only 2 o clock. Holy Christ.
 
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Red Cloud said:
TimV is a Cornell fan, like you. You should be taking your quarrel up with him, not me. He's the only person that's brought up national titles.

This is the third time today on this board I've been attacked for something someone else said, and it's only 2 o clock. Holy Christ.
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Sorry, guess I'm just pumped and already in Lynah Faithful mode. You know how it is, It's always the sieves fault, even if its an empty netter.
 
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redhead18 said:
A couple months ago I sent an anonymous email to one of the PR people from the Ivy League asking why they didnt have their own hockey conference.
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Very sneaky...I like it. This is the kind of dedication I like to see.
 
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TimV said:
Not speaking for all, of course, but Cornell fans in general, because of Ivy restrictions on the number of games, would prefer NOT to play more league games and lose highly valued out-of-conference opportunities. Also, long-time ECAC rivalries with Clarkson, and RPI are bigger games in Ithaca than say, Brown and Princeton. If Union can stay at their current level, they too would be a better rivalry than some of the Ivy teams.

RE: DrDemento's quote The Ivy League is an athletic conference like any other (aside from how grants-in-aid are handled) no different than The ACC, Big Ten, or Liberty League. Why the diminutive? In fact, the Ivy hockey championship is the LEAST deired championship compared to lacrosse (especially), football, hoops, etc at Cornell. In hockey, the desire is the ECAC autobid first, then the NCAA crown, which RPI has enjoyed more recently than Cornell.

The game tonght should be a good one, I like your team and coach, but I gotta wish you luck only AFTER tonight.
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Tim: I simply meant LITTLE in the respect that 6 teams do not usually make up what I would consider a BIG league. I still feel if they could expand to all 8 teams in the Ivy league that they would be long gone from the ECAC years ago. Their schedules would be 14 in league games with a bunch of slots open to play a strong OOC schedule. Losing the existing games with other ECAC foes would not be much of a consideration for them.
 
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DrDemento said:
Tim: I simply meant LITTLE in the respect that 6 teams do not usually make up what I would consider a BIG league. I still feel if they could expand to all 8 teams in the Ivy league that they would be long gone from the ECAC years ago. Their schedules would be 14 in league games with a bunch of slots open to play a strong OOC schedule. Losing the existing games with other ECAC foes would not be much of a consideration for them.
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Of course, there is basically zero thought by either Penn or Columbia to starting hockey as far as I know. I agree that the ECAC would be dumped if it would happen however.
 
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Ralph Baer said:
Of course, there is basically zero thought by either Penn or Columbia to starting hockey as far as I know. I agree that the ECAC would be dumped if it would happen however.
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Agreed-i do not see it even remotely happening but the thought was interesting. The landscape looks like we are going to see lots of changes-even a crystal ball cannot tell us what will happen.
 
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Could knock me over with a feather. Who would have thought-the odds of winning the last 2 games were probably could not be calculated. Now we probably go to the North Country for next weekend. Not sure who we match up better with-we played such crazy different games against each team. Lost both to Clarkson but outshot them significantly in Troy. Able to handle SLU a bit better but both Clarkson and SLU are very different teams now than they were when we played them. (But then again so are we) This weekend though really gave me some enrgy for the playoffs and I hope it does the same for the team. Also, with the emergence of the younger boys-next year could be a lot of fun. Go Red!!I really want to be able to use my AC tickets this year in March.
 
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What a weekend!
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Couldn't have said it any better. Badly outshot last night and then outshot Cornell 23-16 despite 5 Cornell PPs to just one for us. The desire on this team has been something that we have waiting for all season. So, if the RPI announcers are correct, it looks like we're off to face our favorite team in Clarkson next weekend. There would be nothing better then to redeem our entire year then ending Clarkson's season on their home ice. Let's go RED!!!!
 
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Could knock me over with a feather. Who would have thought-the odds of winning the last 2 games were probably could not be calculated. Now we probably go to the North Country for next weekend. Not sure who we match up better with-we played such crazy different games against each team. Lost both to Clarkson but outshot them significantly in Troy. Able to handle SLU a bit better but both Clarkson and SLU are very different teams now than they were when we played them. (But then again so are we) This weekend though really gave me some enrgy for the playoffs and I hope it does the same for the team. Also, with the emergence of the younger boys-next year could be a lot of fun. Go Red!!I really want to be able to use my AC tickets this year in March.
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Doc, the youngsters are really showing what they are made of, but Cullen over the last month has been an animal. I don't know what has come over him.
He could make a big difference for us in the playoffs.
The goaltending has been pretty good too.
 
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engineerhockeyfan said:
Doc, the youngsters are really showing what they are made of, but Cullen over the last month has been an animal. I don't know what has come over him.
He could make a big difference for us in the playoffs.
The goaltending has been pretty good too.
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EHF-There have been several differences. Some nights it hasn't been there, but when it is-the results are pretty good. Tinordi is quickly becoming an extremely valuable boy out there. I don't really don't care which line you put him on (although I prefer him with Malchuk) he makes his presence felt. McGowan is showing that he was a great pick up also. I still have dreams of an L-M-N line in the future and maybe it will come to pass. The freshmen have taken over. Their energy especially late in games is infectious. We won tonight with two valuable veterans sitting out-O'Grady and AAG. And of course you are right-Cullen is possessed. But then again so are a group of others. The penalty kill was a major reason we won both games (we did take 17 penalties to our opponents only getting 7). Credit the guys who did the work-Malchuk did all the little things and the defensemen were rock solid. I really hope that people notice how well Luke Curadi has come along. His game just keeps improving-and our record seems to be better for it. I hope that whatever has happened continues-I would hope that we did not give everythign out there this weekend and we left it all on the ice with nothing left for the playoffs. I would like to think we are peaking at the right time and not one week too soon. I could not be prouder of these boys-if this week did not show what heart and soul they have-nothing ever will. Just an emotional 2¢
 
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