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RPI 2011 - 12 Part IV: We ain't Bailen on this season yet, Go Red!!

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Jasma said:
Remember that Appert said Polacek made Jda and Pirri better, not the other way around. I think we may be seeing how important Polacek, York and even Hefrich were both on and off the ice. This senior class pales in comparison in many ways.
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Personally, I think that Polacek made D'Amigo and Pirri better mainly because of his experience. If D'A and Pirri had stayed, they would probably have become the better players.

With York subtracted from this year's senior class there is not much high-end talent, and the same can be said to an even greater extent about the junior class without D'A and Pirri.
 
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Ralph Baer said:
Personally, I think that Polacek made D'Amigo and Pirri better mainly because of his experience. If D'A and Pirri had stayed, they would probably have become the better players.

With York subtracted from this year's senior class there is not much high-end talent, and the same can be said to an even greater extent about the junior class without D'A and Pirri.
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You have to wonder why the senior class got voted among the top 15 freshman classes....
 
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rjohntute said:
You have to wonder why the senior class got voted among the top 15 freshman classes....
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Mike Bergin was part of that class as well. Two draft picks and a marginal one (although did not get in) in Patrick Cullen excited people.
 
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For all of those who are doubting the coach and this years team, do me a favor and dont show up to the field house this weekend or any weekend from now on for the games. Honestly, I dont want to hear you booing or saying they should get rid of Appert and why isnt the upperclassmen doing anything. I will be there cheering my team on and wishing they find a way to break out of this slump with 2 victories in league play. 2 plus months remain in the season and its all league play aside from AIC from here, so show up to the field house ready to support this team and finally, happy new year to all and lets go red.
 
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fishcore12 said:
For all of those who are doubting the coach and this years team, do me a favor and dont show up to the field house this weekend or any weekend from now on for the games. Honestly, I dont want to hear you booing or saying they should get rid of Appert and why isnt the upperclassmen doing anything. I will be there cheering my team on and wishing they find a way to break out of this slump with 2 victories in league play. 2 plus months remain in the season and its all league play aside from AIC from here, so show up to the field house ready to support this team and finally, happy new year to all and lets go red.
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People who are parents realize that you can simultaneously "support" someone by giving them love / encouragement / backing and also raise legitimate questions about certain choices in how people behave in particular circumstances.

Translating to athletics, when athletes get "tight" they tend to resort to the familiar; an opponent who recognizes this trait and who is knows what is coming can be better prepared to exploit these tendencies. Anticipatory coaching prepares a response for this contingency.

We can both point out the need for these responses and have hope that we will see them implemented.

Were I involved, I would urge people to forget the record entirely and focus entirely on what is under your direct control. Set specific game objectives in terms of how you play together (did we execute what we practiced? Good! or whatever) and ignore the score. That's a trait that makes the UConn women's basketball team so dominant, for example; it also works in reverse with a team still learning to find its way. The responses so far have been encouraging; from my perspective: Coach is asserting responsibility not making excuses, for example.
 
Ralph Baer said:
Personally, I think that Polacek made D'Amigo and Pirri better mainly because of his experience. If D'A and Pirri had stayed, they would probably have become the better players.

With York subtracted from this year's senior class there is not much high-end talent, and the same can be said to an even greater extent about the junior class without D'A and Pirri.
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D'Amigo had one great year, including the world Juniors. He has not played to that level since leaving RPI. He would have been a ver good college, but I don' t believe he would have been a hobby baker finalist.
 
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Jasma said:
D'Amigo had one great year, including the world Juniors. He has not played to that level since leaving RPI. He would have been a ver good college, but I don' t believe he would have been a hobby baker finalist.
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From all that I have read, he's much improved this year over last.
 
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Off topic but Alan York was in attendence @ the UML game...as hard is it may seem to believe it looked like he actually lost weight...he was sitting w/the non dressed players.
 
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Red Cloud said:
Neither does he. He thinks we had a guy named "D'Amingo."

Beman is just a lame old codger who is way too attached to the past. You know, the glory years when we were the middle of the pack every single season. You know, nothing ventured, nothing gained, no problems.
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Yeah it is reale better now. I can watch games that we have no chance of winning. What are you venturing? Getting players that will stay a couple years and leave. You have no clue. Never have.
 
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Red Cloud said:
Neither does he. He thinks we had a guy named "D'Amingo."

Beman is just a lame old codger who is way too attached to the past. You know, the glory years when we were the middle of the pack every single season. You know, nothing ventured, nothing gained, no problems.
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Old Codger? At least I don't stalk parents of the engineer players. You are reale creepy
 
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Jasma said:
It is troubling how RPI has faded late in the year under Appert. They are 5-11 in postseason play and 5-10 in ECAC playoffs.
The combined record in their final 10 regular season games under Appert is 13-32-4. That's fewer than 3 wins per year in their final 10 games.
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Maybe starting the season in early August makes them peak too early. Last year there were a ton of injuries in the final months of the season.
 
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IMO said:
Maybe starting the season in early August makes them peak too early. Last year there were a ton of injuries in the final months of the season.
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Everyone else does also, so that shouldn't make difference.
 
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Ralph Baer said:
Personally, I think that Polacek made D'Amigo and Pirri better mainly because of his experience. If D'A and Pirri had stayed, they would probably have become the better players.

With York subtracted from this year's senior class there is not much high-end talent, and the same can be said to an even greater extent about the junior class without D'A and Pirri.
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The reason Polacek had the success was because he was a leader and team player. He obviously also has talent-I do not believe D'A or Pirri were leaders or team players. It is interesting though after D'A and Pirri left the team actually did better and now with Polacek/York and gang gone they are struggling.
 
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IMO said:
The reason Polacek had the success was because he was a leader and team player. He obviously also has talent-I do not believe D'A or Pirri were leaders or team players. It is interesting though after D'A and Pirri left the team actually did better and now with Polacek/York and gang gone they are struggling.
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I don't know about Pirri, but D'A definitely seemed like a team player at RPI and before and after that. As to being leaders, I am too far away from the players to judge accurately.
 
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Beman said:
Old Codger? At least I don't stalk parents of the engineer players.
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I invite you to come say that to my face sometime, old man. Since you seem to know me oh so well, you know where to find me.

Beman said:
I can watch games that we have no chance of winning. What are you venturing? Getting players that will stay a couple years and leave. You have no clue. Never have.
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Games we have no chance of winning? You aren't even paying attention, are you?

Replying twice to the same post.... I struck a nerve, didn't I?

And I love the "red cloud is insane" tag. Really got me there.
 
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Ralph Baer said:
I don't know about Pirri, but D'A definitely seemed like a team player at RPI and before and after that. As to being leaders, I am too far away from the players to judge accurately.
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Fair point. I guess I based those judgements on how they left the team. I understand they had to make the decisions that were best for them and wished them well like everyone else-it just seemed they came and the focus wasn't on RPI hockey but the next level. I did not mean to judge their decisions it was just an observation. All of them are gone now and new leaders will emerge.
 
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