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RPI 2010-11: Houston, We've had a Facelift!

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FlagDUDE08 said:
If we start league play 0-4, it's all your fault for jinxing the team. :eek: :p
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Honestly-I am fully expecting us to start 3-1. I originally felt we would win 21 games total this year-I may have to raise that estimate. Of course lots of things can happen and you can never predict injuries, but this team is good-now they just have to become consistently good and get some more confidence and develop a bit of a swagger.
 
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DrDemento said:
I recall watching Colin on the ice and lots of scraps he got into. He won most of them and never took more than he gave. Back in the 60's we had lots of guys like that. I remember what happened to forwards who even dared to set up in front of the crease when Billy Sack was in there-their ankles told them that was not a wise thing to do.
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Its a different game now.I don't think it is either better or worse...just different....but I must admit in the new world of obstruction,full cages,touch interference and the like I sometimes long for those days....Doc I'll rely on your memory or even RB's but it seems to me there were less serious injuries back in those day especially Head,Neck,Back injuries...is that how you recall it or is that just selective memory on my part ?
 
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troyboy said:
Its a different game now.I don't think it is either better or worse...just different....but I must admit in the new world of obstruction,full cages,touch interference and the like I sometimes long for those days....Doc I'll rely on your memory or even RB's but it seems to me there were less serious injuries back in those day especially Head,Neck,Back injuries...is that how you recall it or is that just selective memory on my part ?
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It seems like it to me also, but indeed it could be selective memory on my part also. In addition, there are more teams now, so there are more players who could be injured.
 
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troyboy said:
Its a different game now.I don't think it is either better or worse...just different....but I must admit in the new world of obstruction,full cages,touch interference and the like I sometimes long for those days....Doc I'll rely on your memory or even RB's but it seems to me there were less serious injuries back in those day especially Head,Neck,Back injuries...is that how you recall it or is that just selective memory on my part ?
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It's the speed that makes the most difference but the kids are also bigger (more muscle) while the bones remain the same. Simply kinetic energy. Not much to do about it unless someone invents a new set of boards which are stiff enough to deflect pucks but will give when a player slides into the base of them. Seems like it should be possible. All you need is some type of spring with a small electronic delay such that an object moving 2x faster than a player (a brief collision) sees a rigid response while an object moving less than that sees a controlled deceleration. Boards are typically pretty heavy so it might require more sections of glass to do it. That adds cost but perhaps it is only needed in crucial areas (the ends and the corners).

There's an engineering project that someone at the Tute should look into. Maybe Ralph can look into this as a hobby during his retirement.
 
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jmhusker said:
There's an engineering project that someone at the Tute should look into. Maybe Ralph can look into this as a hobby during his retirement.
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Wouldn't an engineer be better than a mathematician? :)
 
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troyboy said:
Its a different game now.I don't think it is either better or worse...just different....but I must admit in the new world of obstruction,full cages,touch interference and the like I sometimes long for those days....Doc I'll rely on your memory or even RB's but it seems to me there were less serious injuries back in those day especially Head,Neck,Back injuries...is that how you recall it or is that just selective memory on my part ?
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My memory is that there were far less injuries in the old days of a severe nature. There were lots of minor things since the faces weren't covered. Lot of cuts and scrapes and more teeth lost. But i honestly can't recall too many neck, knee or shoulder injuries like we see now. Troyboy has it right-it is a very different game now. The boys are bigger (in my day a big forward was 175-180 and a big defenseman was 185-190. The size difference alone accounts for some of the changes but these kids today are just so much faster also and everyone is in the weight room and getting built, and cut, and massive. Back in the sixties there was so much less emphasis on that. I love the game as it is, don't get me wrong, but i really do yearn for the way it was played back then. Kids now are encased in padding and head gear and feel invincible-they keep their sticks up high and their elbows likewise.
 
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DrDemento said:
My memory is that there were far less injuries in the old days of a severe nature. There were lots of minor things since the faces weren't covered. Lot of cuts and scrapes and more teeth lost. But i honestly can't recall too many neck, knee or shoulder injuries like we see now. Troyboy has it right-it is a very different game now. The boys are bigger (in my day a big forward was 175-180 and a big defenseman was 185-190. The size difference alone accounts for some of the changes but these kids today are just so much faster also and everyone is in the weight room and getting built, and cut, and massive. Back in the sixties there was so much less emphasis on that. I love the game as it is, don't get me wrong, but i really do yearn for the way it was played back then. Kids now are encased in padding and head gear and feel invincible-they keep their sticks up high and their elbows likewise.
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Doc, I can remember standing outside the old Garden to purchase tickets and watching the players file in from the bar accross the street. Usually led by Gump Worsley.
I would say that the change in fitness of the players is out of sight.
This is a different game, but I too would like to see a little resistance allowed. The game has been taken over by the offense.
 
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engineerhockeyfan said:
Doc, I can remember standing outside the old Garden to purchase tickets and watching the players file in from the bar accross the street. Usually led by Gump Worsley.
I would say that the change in fitness of the players is out of sight.
This is a different game, but I too would like to see a little resistance allowed. The game has been taken over by the offense.
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EHF-ever get a close look at the Gumper's face? He did play all those early years without a mask. I once met Ted Lindsey outside the MSG locker rooms-I was very young but a close up of his face scared the heck out of me. I had just seen the original Frankenstein movie and I was sure I had just met his incarnation. Yep-old time hockey-nothing like it! And of course you are right-the fitness, the size, the speed-today's game bears little resemblance to what I grew up playing and watching.
 
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Just a reminder to everyone to get out and vote today. no matter who you vote for, it matters. We need jobs mainly, and a whole other slew of problems need to be fixed. Shirley Jackson was just an eyelash away from being governor of NY, as she wa originally offered the position by Eliot Spitzer. Of course, we all know what happened sincce.
 
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DrDemento said:
EHF-ever get a close look at the Gumper's face? He did play all those early years without a mask. I once met Ted Lindsey outside the MSG locker rooms-I was very young but a close up of his face scared the heck out of me. I had just seen the original Frankenstein movie and I was sure I had just met his incarnation. Yep-old time hockey-nothing like it! And of course you are right-the fitness, the size, the speed-today's game bears little resemblance to what I grew up playing and watching.
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I got to see a lot of the players up close, and they were all messed up back then. But Ted Lindsey may have been the worst. Johnny Bower wasn't too pretty either.
 
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jericho said:
Just a reminder to everyone to get out and vote today. no matter who you vote for, it matters. We need jobs mainly, and a whole other slew of problems need to be fixed. Shirley Jackson was just an eyelash away from being governor of NY, as she wa originally offered the position by Eliot Spitzer. Of course, we all know what happened sincce.
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I voted Chase for Hobey....oh wait wrong voting...I cast my vote.
 
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fishcore12 said:
I voted Chase for Hobey....oh wait wrong voting...I cast my vote.
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In speaking of that, he's had a bit of a slow start here. Obviously he's going to draw the best defense, and hopefully the third line (Brock Higgs and company) can really step up to the mark. I'm still a little doubtful about the other two lines, but Coach knows better than us.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
In speaking of that, he's had a bit of a slow start here. Obviously he's going to draw the best defense, and hopefully the third line (Brock Higgs and company) can really step up to the mark. I'm still a little doubtful about the other two lines, but Coach knows better than us.
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Polacek had a slow start? He averaged 1.33 ppg last year. This year it is 1.29. That's virtually the same. His goal scoring has however been down from .67 goal/gm to .43 goal/gm.
 
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Ralph Baer said:
Polacek had a slow start? He averaged 1.33 ppg last year. This year it is 1.29. That's virtually the same. His goal scoring has however been down from .67 goal/gm to .43 goal/gm.
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Yes, but compare it to where he was at this time last year. He tapered off towards the end of the season.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
Yes, but compare it to where he was at this time last year. He tapered off towards the end of the season.
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Past performance does not guarantee future results. I'm just sayin'.
 
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