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RPI 2009 - 2010 Part II: I Believe in Seth Appert

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troyboy said:
I agree with all your points with the exception of #4.IMO York needs to get better FAST !!!!!!.I was at the opposite end of the rink for the first goal he let up and it appeared he let up another juicy rebound and again had trouble controlling the puck in his own crease I will stand corrected if someone closer saw it a different way.I was sitting right where the second goal was scored and it was a way stoppable puck in fact IMO 90% of the goaltenders in this league would have stopped it.He seems to have trouble tracking the puck and is way out of position a lot.I also believe this is one of our problems with our PK. He seem to have a real issue tracking the puck when the ice opens up and the puck gets rotated around the zone.Remember your best penalty killer is the goalie and
he needs to be spectacular in those situations and he isn't.As the coach said in the Troy Record today.We put ourselves in a position to win but I thought Scrivens outplayed York.What do you think that means in Appert speak???
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Coach has a lot of class.That being said ,the first goal was a shot from the slot in traffic that rebounded high off of alans chest to the right onto the Cornell players stick. A tough puck to see no less to control.I am not sure he saw it. Not Alans fault. The second goal should have never happened, it took a d mistake to give the Cornell player a look from the low left circle. A low percentage angle and a perfectly made shot imo. He could not make that shot again in his next 100 chances. I cannot comment on his position,i watched it from behind the play from the other end of the ice.
 
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IMO said:
The missed pass from Halpern to Polacek could have been a game changer. Polacek was in the perfect position and wide open to bury the puck. Too many times this year we have opted to shoot when a player is wide open.
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That is a very tough call. If he makes the pass and someone just nicks it our of the way of the receiver, we all say he should have taken the shot.
It is a no win situation, unless of course the decision ends in a goal.
 
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Very solid effort in a snoozer of a game. One pretty dumb penalty hurts again though, Vassel's interference was textbook and obvious. I understand the urge to want to put an opposing player into the bench, just... pick your spots is all.

That said, with the effort last night and with a team that was at full speed, that's a game RPI can win more often than not. A couple of goal line scrum shots go their way and RPI wins. Things to remember for the future is all, they just can't have a letdown this afternoon against Colgate is all and Colgate is going to be mighty grumpy in their own right.
 
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solid effort, just one of those games where the other guy made saves and ours didn't. It could've easily went the other way, which is something we wouldn't have said last year or the one before it.
 
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Senna said:
As a final note, I sat next to a couple last night who's son played on the same team as our touted recruit JL 2 years ago. I guess that a lot of those kids all stay in touch, and this guy said that everyone is convinced that JL will never come to RPI. His words - "Never gonna happen. He commented that JL is not working at all on his english, and that he just doesnt want to be away from home (one of the reasons that he is with his current team...geographically close to home). He also said that JL is absolutely the "real deal" and while limited defensively, just has an uncanny ability to put the puck in the net and the ability to play at any level. I dunno - I'm sold on his ability, but my father long ago told me something that has always stuck...."Dont beleive anything you hear and only half of what you see". Of course I am going to apply that as I find most expeditious (only to this guys comments and NOT to JL's commitment to attend next year).
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It's deja vu all over again. :) Someone posted virtually the same thing before, probably late last season. I think that we even figured out who played with JL two years ago who lived in the CD.

If JL doesn't want to be away from home, then unless he plays for Ottawa, he will be asking if you want fries with that next year (or the year after, since he still has his overage year in juniors).
 
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GreatLakerMohawk said:
Very solid effort in a snoozer of a game. One pretty dumb penalty hurts again though, Vassel's interference was textbook and obvious. I understand the urge to want to put an opposing player into the bench, just... pick your spots is all.

That said, with the effort last night and with a team that was at full speed, that's a game RPI can win more often than not. A couple of goal line scrum shots go their way and RPI wins. Things to remember for the future is all, they just can't have a letdown this afternoon against Colgate is all and Colgate is going to be mighty grumpy in their own right.
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GLM-I have some trouble with that Vassel penalty call. It appears to me that the refs are being very inconsistent with what they allow the defenseman to do. In the past (and certainly in the NHL) when a forward gains the blue line and shoots the puck in and then tries to move around the defenseman, the D-man is usually allowed to try to slow him down-without interference being called. It seems this year in many of our games that the officials are being rather arbitrary in calling that exact play as interference on the defenseman. It is almost like-sometimes they make the call and sometimes they don't(depending on what kind of acting job the forward is able to do). It must be a difficult decision for any D-man-Do I try to stop the forward from scooting around me or do I take the body and slow him down since he was the last person to touch the puck? I see your point but what should Vassel have done? Should he have just backed off and let the forward swing into the zone? Tough one to call and I think the refs have to get more consistent and either call it all the time-or not call it at all. Just my 2 cents.:)
 
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Ralph Baer said:
It's deja vu all over again. :) Someone posted virtually the same thing before, probably late last season. I think that we even figured out who played with JL two years ago who lived in the CD.

If JL doesn't want to be away from home, then unless he plays for Ottawa, he will be asking if you want fries with that next year (or the year after, since he still has his overage year in juniors).
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Ralph: Agree strongly-I think we would have seen something by now if he really was thinking of going elsewhere. Besides if he goes-he will miss out on all the lovely attractions that we have in Troy NY:eek:
 
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DrD,

You and I won't live long enough to see the refs be consistent. :) The best that we can hope for is that we don't get more bad calls than the other team gets.
 
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DrDemento said:
GLM-I have some trouble with that Vassel penalty call. It appears to me that the refs are being very inconsistent with what they allow the defenseman to do. In the past (and certainly in the NHL) when a forward gains the blue line and shoots the puck in and then tries to move around the defenseman, the D-man is usually allowed to try to slow him down-without interference being called. It seems this year in many of our games that the officials are being rather arbitrary in calling that exact play as interference on the defenseman. It is almost like-sometimes they make the call and sometimes they don't(depending on what kind of acting job the forward is able to do). It must be a difficult decision for any D-man-Do I try to stop the forward from scooting around me or do I take the body and slow him down since he was the last person to touch the puck? I see your point but what should Vassel have done? Should he have just backed off and let the forward swing into the zone? Tough one to call and I think the refs have to get more consistent and either call it all the time-or not call it at all. Just my 2 cents.:)
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I see what you're saying. The way I viewed the play was that the puck was long gone and Vassel checked his man into the boards in front of the RPI bench, I didn't see it as a dump-in situation where the attacker gets held up or faceguarded (read: obstructed).

Of course, from my view in 14 I was looking around an idiot with Thundersticks held up in front of him so seeing the play on the shot board end of HFH was an adventure. :rolleyes:
 
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Ralph Baer said:
It's deja vu all over again. :) Someone posted virtually the same thing before, probably late last season. I think that we even figured out who played with JL two years ago who lived in the CD.

If JL doesn't want to be away from home, then unless he plays for Ottawa, he will be asking if you want fries with that next year (or the year after, since he still has his overage year in juniors).
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Undoubtedly Bryan Bessette who is now a backup goalie for Colgate. :eek: This is Hawkesburys' 07-08 roster http://www.pointstreak.com/prostats/teamroster.html?teamid=56355&seasonid=2033.
 
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GreatLakerMohawk said:
I see what you're saying. The way I viewed the play was that the puck was long gone and Vassel checked his man into the boards in front of the RPI bench, I didn't see it as a dump-in situation where the attacker gets held up or faceguarded (read: obstructed).
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Just watched the replay of that play on RPI/TV(and they do a great job by the way;) ) It was a bad penalty to take, well behind the play.
 
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blocker said:
Coach has a lot of class.That being said ,the first goal was a shot from the slot in traffic that rebounded high off of alans chest to the right onto the Cornell players stick. A tough puck to see no less to control.I am not sure he saw it. Not Alans fault. The second goal should have never happened, it took a d mistake to give the Cornell player a look from the low left circle. A low percentage angle and a perfectly made shot imo. He could not make that shot again in his next 100 chances. I cannot comment on his position,i watched it from behind the play from the other end of the ice.
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I'll stand corrected but wasn't the 2nd goal an odd man rush off of our turnover?
 
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DavidSec17 said:
Just watched the replay of that play on RPI/TV(and they do a great job by the way;) ) It was a bad penalty to take, well behind the play.
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It was a bad penalty to call. Lets remember that refs are supposed to use discretion just like players are. In the 3rd period of great, tight hockey game . Iit was away from the puck but it had no bearing on the play and it was not unlike many other checks that both teams had done all night. Probably the worst call of the game, IMO.
 
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I saw Pirri's miss at the open net on the local TV news and he seemed to buckle at the knees not believing he missed a wide open goal. That had to be a bitter pill to swallow, but I'm sure he's already put it out of his mind. I hope D'Amigo didn't come back too soon but I assume he was OK or there would have been more discussion of him above. Anyway, Union handled Colgate (sort of) on less than their best last night. If you guys bring your A game this afternoon, it should be a W.
 
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ServinisScores said:
solid effort, just one of those games where the other guy made saves and ours didn't. It could've easily went the other way, which is something we wouldn't have said last year or the one before it.
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I have a hard time blaming a 2-1 loss on the keeper. In any event, you have to consider as Appert commented, that our forwards missed a few VERY open rebounds that could easily have added two goals to the scoresheet. One in particular we missed and we had better than 1/2 the net to shoot at. I'm encouraged at least that offensively we gave them all they could handle, one bounce our way and its a W not a L.

Standouts for me were Burgdoerfer (he had one of the better defensive games of his career, IMO) and Scotty Halpern skated downhill all night, he didn't back down from anybody and was all over the ice. I really hope he brings that intensity tonight. I should also mention that I think Jensen is very quietly gaining confidence and played a lot of point on the PP. While the later may be out of necessity, overall I like what I'm seeing with him of late.
 
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Wicked Slappaahs said:
It was a bad penalty to call. Lets remember that refs are supposed to use discretion just like players are. In the 3rd period of great, tight hockey game . Iit was away from the puck but it had no bearing on the play and it was not unlike many other checks that both teams had done all night. Probably the worst call of the game, IMO.
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I saw it on the web so I had a decent view but not a great view. Seemed to me to be a play not unlike that made 10 other times during the game. I just dont know how a defenseman is supposed to make any play on a man bearing into his zone who then just dumps the puck past him. If he is not allowed to check him-then it should be called-each and every time and not just once in a close game in which there were very few penalties called to begin with.
 
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Wicked Slappaahs said:
It was a bad penalty to call. Lets remember that refs are supposed to use discretion just like players are. In the 3rd period of great, tight hockey game . Iit was away from the puck but it had no bearing on the play and it was not unlike many other checks that both teams had done all night. Probably the worst call of the game, IMO.
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The penalty we're talking about is Vassel's in the first period... Unless you're just working off a rant here. :)
 
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Ralph Baer said:
DrD,

You and I won't live long enough to see the refs be consistent. :) The best that we can hope for is that we don't get more bad calls than the other team gets.
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That's exactly the point-If vassel gets called on that play-why wasn't it called earlier in the game as both teams were having their D-men hold the blue line? And you're correct-they will never be consistent-unless you include Mike Noeth who was consistently horrible:D
 
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engineerhockeyfan said:
That is a very tough call. If he makes the pass and someone just nicks it our of the way of the receiver, we all say he should have taken the shot.
It is a no win situation, unless of course the decision ends in a goal.
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It's not as tough of a call when one player has barely any goals and plays due to effort more than talent(Halpern) and the other player is a total sniper that leads the ECAC in scoring as well as being one of the top in the country(Polacek). Of course its still a tough call but from what I saw that Cornell d played it poorly and went down early which would've made for an easy pass, plus Scrivens was 100% committed to Halpern so Polacek had the entire net to work with if he got his stick on it.
Though i'm a believer in that situation if Halpern does decide to shoot, he needs to put it hard on the ice so that the rebound pops out rather than putting a shot high when there was no opening

Oh well, I have a feeling we'll finish some goals tonight :D
 
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