RPI 2009 - 2010 Part II: I Believe in Seth Appert

[Ralph Baer]

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Unless you believe that he makes up quotes, there was nothing I quoted that can really be attributed to Weaver.

I was trying to imply that there are enough errors in Weaver's articles that conceivably the word "not" or another negative word is missing from his article. In this instance that isn't the case because the Gazette has a video, and I really don't think that Ken Schott also doctored that. . I also do not believe that Weaver makes up quotes.

Now if we are talking about Earl Weaver.

 

[engineerhockeyfan]

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In this day and age, with information technology being what it is, every game is broadcast in one form or another, every prospect can be seen constantly.
A player doesn't have to be in your backyard to keep track of him.
Now if a pro team would like their prospects playing for a particular coach, I think they can apply plenty of pressure to have that player go wherever they wish.
At that point, it is a matter of how much the player values his education.
My own opinion is that no one will leave before their junior year.
With two exceptional years under their belts, they may believe that the NHL is attainable and pro hockey would be the way to get there.
JMO

 

[DrDemento]

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I had an epidural during my knee surgery as well -- why is this preferred?

Rob: A significant number of bad reactions occur under anesthesia-every time you get put to sleep there is a small chance you will have trouble waking up. The incidence of anesthesia reactions have fallen some over the years but are still significant. The purposes of the anesthesia are several fold-one- to keep you from moving, two- to provide some pain relief (although pain relief drugs still have to be given separately), three- to provide muscle relaxtion so the surgeon can manipulate the area necessary. You get all 3 of these things with spinal anesthesia to an even more significant degree without the depressant effects on respiration. If I have to go for surgery and it is anything below my ribs-I want a spinal for myself.

 

[Wicked Slappaahs]

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Not a likely scenario..but the OHL is always poaching -

http://board.uscho.com/showpost.php?p=4497164&postcount=6

These are the same Canadian homers who had Jerry definitely, absolutely, unquestionably, irrevocably headed to Kitchener this past summer. That is until D'Amigo Sr. stepped in and said my son is going to be an Engineer. In their maple-glazed eyes, if you don't play the game in the great white north, you're committing career suicide.

 

[burgie12]

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In their maple-glazed eyes, if you don't play the game in the great white north, you're committing career suicide.

Isn't it obvious from his stats that he did commit career suicide? I mean, he's not the top-scoring rookie in the entire NCAA. Obviously, his production has gone way downhill because he went south of the border

It's not like 5-8-13 in 15 games is good enough for 13th nationally in PPG by rookies, or 5th in the conference. It's not like 3 GWG has him tied for the nation's lead. It's not like he's one of only two freshmen with 3 GSGs.

Yes, from those stats, it is painfully obvious that Jerry made a career-ending decision by playing for RPI and has cost himself a shot at ever playing in the NHL in blue and white.

Let's take down Cornell tonight and go for the sweep on Saturday against the Raiders. Let's go RED! (and white)

 

[RobTricks]

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Rob: A significant number of bad reactions occur under anesthesia-every time you get put to sleep there is a small chance you will have trouble waking up. The incidence of anesthesia reactions have fallen some over the years but are still significant. The purposes of the anesthesia are several fold-one- to keep you from moving, two- to provide some pain relief (although pain relief drugs still have to be given separately), three- to provide muscle relaxtion so the surgeon can manipulate the area necessary. You get all 3 of these things with spinal anesthesia to an even more significant degree without the depressant effects on respiration. If I have to go for surgery and it is anything below my ribs-I want a spinal for myself.

Makes sense, thanks.

 

[Wicked Slappaahs]

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...
Let's take down Cornell tonight and go for the sweep on Saturday against the Raiders. Let's go RED! (and white)

I'm all for that !

 

[Wicked Slappaahs]

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If we skate with relentless intensity, like we did vs. UNH, Yale and Clarkson we'll be fine. Speed kills. Get bodies and pucks to the net. GO RED !

 

[jmhusker]

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I hope that Bergin is back healthy soon. I just realized/remembered that we are starting 6 right handed defensemen tonight. That means that our left defenseman has to use his backhand whenever he wants to clear a puck that is in the left corner. Over the course of a season, I'd imagine there are going to be quite a few times where having to clear on the backhand (especially on the PK) results in more failures than using the forehand would.

I wonder if other coaches try to exploit this by dumping the puck into the right side of the zone (the Offensive zone) and forcing the left D to either use his backhand or go the long way on his forehand (around the back of the net). Perhaps this is one of the reasons that our PK stinks since Bergin went down. His replacement on the PK is playing on his off side.

 

[DrDemento]

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I hope that Bergin is back healthy soon. I just realized/remembered that we are starting 6 right handed defensemen tonight. That means that our left defenseman has to use his backhand whenever he wants to clear a puck that is in the left corner. Over the course of a season, I'd imagine there are going to be quite a few times where having to clear on the backhand (especially on the PK) results in more failures than using the forehand would.

I wonder if other coaches try to exploit this by dumping the puck into the right side of the zone (the Offensive zone) and forcing the left D to either use his backhand or go the long way on his forehand (around the back of the net). Perhaps this is one of the reasons that our PK stinks since Bergin went down. His replacement on the PK is playing on his off side.

Fascinating observance! There may well be something to this-our PK has been the Achilles heel so far. We are pretty bad 5 on 4 but absolutely horrid 5 on 3. I too am hoping for a complete recovery fro Bergin soon.

 

[RobTricks]

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http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/pu...ill-they-make-the-World-Junior?urn=nhl,206864

A little love for Jerry D'Amigo (and realet) ...

 

[realet]

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so... I'm trying to figure out why I'm not hopping right now.

We lost, we lost for the 4th time in 5 games, and the 2nd straight league game, but there are a number of items here.

1) We outshot. Good.
2) Still missing Bergin. Bad, but we kept it within reason. See also power play sucking. Jensen's not as good a QB as Bergin, no doubt.
3) For that matter, still missing Lee. I think it's a coincidence that we won the game that he came back for, but we miss Bergin more, methinks.
4) York wasn't bad. 1st goal was on the penalty kill and Burgdoerfer was missing his stick. 2nd goal was a goal scorer's goal. Gotta applaud it.
5) If you're going to get beat, you WANT to get beat on goals like that one (although what the hell was O'Grady thinking)
6) D'Amigo was off a step but honestly, I didn't care. Dude's a pimp.
7) The penalty kill was less than incompetent, which is a step in the right direction. Better step was not taking too many penalties (although Vassel's was a bonehead move)

I did the math and as long as things keep going as they are in the league, I'm not worried in the slightest. Harvard, Dartmouth, and Princeton have been absolutely brutal and we have six games left against them. I know you can't count that many sweeps, especially this far out, but if this team executes the way they can when they're healthy against teams playing like that, they're going to take most if not all of those 12 points. That's 18 points just off of what we have now, and that's roundabout 6 to 8 points needed in the other 11 games of the season (including tomorrow and Wednesday) for a home-ice bye.

Screw it. Throw all that out the window and a win tomorrow keeps us on track by the 3 at home, 2 on the road method anyway.

So no, I'm not hopping.

 

[DrDemento]

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Zealot-all of your points well taken. Just do not underestimate how poorly we have been on the penalty kill. This is the ECAC and the zebras will certainly call far more penalties on us in future games. Some deserved and some by reputation. We cannot expect to win games where we give up 2 or 3 power play goals against. This is our Achilles Heel and we have to fix it now. Don't even mention what happens when we go down 5 on 3 Special teams make up so much of the game-we have a far better power play than the past 3 years(but that could improve some also). We need the other side of the equation to match. Five on Five-we seem to hold our own against just about anyone. Also-could not agree with you more-we really miss Bergin and I only hope he is back and healthy and at 100% soon.

 

[blocker]

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Realet hit the nail on the head in his post. They played a very solid game against a well disciplined team and lost.I would add that i thought their board work in the d zone was much better than in the last few games. With this team, in the Ecac this year, Red should end with a home ice bye. Penalty minutes are down,odd man rushes down, d zone give aways down, shots from the deep slot way down, offensive output up, the pp improved and the remaining schedule manageable. That leaves pk, discipline, defensive consistency and a few other critical variables as the big question marks along with luck. It is early and i am always optimistic at this stage. If Colgate, Princeton, Clarkson, Dartmouth, St Lawrence and Yale find a defense and some goaltending and Dartmouth and Princeton find a their offenses i reserve the right to change this post. Colgate is giving up 3.27 goals per game. Red should win this afternoon.

 

[Wicked Slappaahs]

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Not a lot of time to write but wanted to say we put in a very solid effort last night. Save for the last 5 mins. of the 1st, we really skated well. If we hadn't missed a wide open rebound with 1/2 a net to shoot at, we're talking about a 2-2 game heading to the 3rd... We gave Cornell all they could handle last night. As much as I hate losing to the SUNY Ithaca DB's this was a very solid effort. Now we need to come out beat COlgate tonight.

 

[Senna]

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I was also at last nights game, and some of my take aways...

I always mention that I watch the warm ups, and the boys looked pretty loose. D'Amigo wasnt skating as hard as usual but didnt really notice him favoring a leg at all. For the game, I thought both teams played pretty tentatively in the first period. I also agree that there isnt much that could have been done about both goals. I also absolutely agree with the good Doc - in years past (and even this year at times), giving up goals because of penalties just killed us. I think we are much better in that regard (or at least last night). What we need now is to finish. I dont care how great your PK is or your overall GAA, when you only score 1 or 2 per game, you just are not in a position to win games. For me the difference is that we had some really good chances last night and easily could have had a couple more numbers on the board...and again, the world is a totally different place (could you have imagined the HFH if we popped 2 in the 3rd ?).

Couple of other things...when moving into the offensive zone, we need to get the opposing defenseman turned around. We just do not get the puck deep enough at times. Doesnt have to be a dump in, but using speed and pushing past the D to get him turned to get the puck deeper. To often the opposing D just faces up and gains control of the puck and transitions the other way. We need to continue to use our speed. A couple of times during last nights game we tried tobody up in the corners and along the boards, but we just dont size up and Cornell was first away from the boards with the puck. That being said, when we did move and forechecked or had the puck and move, we easily played with them.

If nothing else, I think that in retrospect, our kids will realize that they can beat Cornell. Remember how young we are - this is their first meeting with them, and a lot is learning experience right now. We are maybe still flying under the radar a bit which I dont mind, and we could easily surprise in the ECAC tournament. We start netting 3-5 per game and these kids will gain more confidence and momentum and then this team could really be dangerous.

As a final note, I sat next to a couple last night who's son played on the same team as our touted recruit JL 2 years ago. I guess that a lot of those kids all stay in touch, and this guy said that everyone is convinced that JL will never come to RPI. His words - "Never gonna happen. He commented that JL is not working at all on his english, and that he just doesnt want to be away from home (one of the reasons that he is with his current team...geographically close to home). He also said that JL is absolutely the "real deal" and while limited defensively, just has an uncanny ability to put the puck in the net and the ability to play at any level. I dunno - I'm sold on his ability, but my father long ago told me something that has always stuck...."Dont beleive anything you hear and only half of what you see". Of course I am going to apply that as I find most expeditious (only to this guys comments and NOT to JL's commitment to attend next year).

 

[ThePeople]

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Pretty much good points by everyone so far
but I'd like to add that Cornell played really well and CLEAN, was very refreshing to see and made the loss bearable
We created way too many chances to only score one goal, I think our guys need some work on the breakaway because we got a bunch of them and they all pretty much ended the same way and have been all season. That Halpern & Polacek one really stands out, both the goalie and the d man were down on the ground essentially out of the play - Halpern had room to pass to Polacek but opted to wait a little longer then take a poor shot, theres no doubt Polacek would've scored if he touched that puck
O'Grady and Kerins had fantastic games(for the most part) and the fourth line had another good one, Pirri & Polacek not as much...that perfect pass from D'Amgio to Pirri giving him an open net to work with and he puts it off the post...was just disheartening

At least we've shown we can compete with the top of the ECAC(and country...cause they deserve that ranking ) so i'm not too worried, however we certainly need more than 1 goal against the high powered offense that Colgate is bringing.
York also needs to play better, he dropped the rebound on that PP goal and the breakaway he never even put his glove in the air, it was a good shot but not great and York wasn't even close - and this is of course not mentioning the great job the d did of clearing the 15 other huge rebounds York gave. I thought he had learned to grab those bounds or direct them to the side but he seems to have totally forgotten how to.

 

[blocker]

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I was also at last nights game, and some of my take aways...

I always mention that I watch the warm ups, and the boys looked pretty loose. D'Amigo wasnt skating as hard as usual but didnt really notice him favoring a leg at all. For the game, I thought both teams played pretty tentatively in the first period. I also agree that there isnt much that could have been done about both goals. I also absolutely agree with the good Doc - in years past (and even this year at times), giving up goals because of penalties just killed us. I think we are much better in that regard (or at least last night). What we need now is to finish. I dont care how great your PK is or your overall GAA, when you only score 1 or 2 per game, you just are not in a position to win games. For me the difference is that we had some really good chances last night and easily could have had a couple more numbers on the board...and again, the world is a totally different place (could you have imagined the HFH if we popped 2 in the 3rd ?).

14 really good scoring chances now that i have had a chance to actually count them.(11 resulting in shots/eight from the red zone) Scrivens played as well as i have seen him play. Last year and the year before he sat behind a great d and flopped around. I wonder if Ben did some work in the off season with somebody who knew what he was doing. His quickness, position and decision making is much improved or he was just lucky and guessed right eight times in a row.. What do you think of the way RED attacked him? (reds book on him) I believe the game swung on the three missed opportiunities on the odd man rushes and that one open net.The 2009 Cornell team is very beatable, i agree.

 

[troyboy]

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so... I'm trying to figure out why I'm not hopping right now.

We lost, we lost for the 4th time in 5 games, and the 2nd straight league game, but there are a number of items here.

1) We outshot. Good.
2) Still missing Bergin. Bad, but we kept it within reason. See also power play sucking. Jensen's not as good a QB as Bergin, no doubt.
3) For that matter, still missing Lee. I think it's a coincidence that we won the game that he came back for, but we miss Bergin more, methinks.
4) York wasn't bad. 1st goal was on the penalty kill and Burgdoerfer was missing his stick. 2nd goal was a goal scorer's goal. Gotta applaud it.
5) If you're going to get beat, you WANT to get beat on goals like that one (although what the hell was O'Grady thinking)
6) D'Amigo was off a step but honestly, I didn't care. Dude's a pimp.
7) The penalty kill was less than incompetent, which is a step in the right direction. Better step was not taking too many penalties (although Vassel's was a bonehead move)

I did the math and as long as things keep going as they are in the league, I'm not worried in the slightest. Harvard, Dartmouth, and Princeton have been absolutely brutal and we have six games left against them. I know you can't count that many sweeps, especially this far out, but if this team executes the way they can when they're healthy against teams playing like that, they're going to take most if not all of those 12 points. That's 18 points just off of what we have now, and that's roundabout 6 to 8 points needed in the other 11 games of the season (including tomorrow and Wednesday) for a home-ice bye.

Screw it. Throw all that out the window and a win tomorrow keeps us on track by the 3 at home, 2 on the road method anyway.

So no, I'm not hopping.

I agree with all your points with the exception of #4.IMO York needs to get better FAST !!!!!!.I was at the opposite end of the rink for the first goal he let up and it appeared he let up another juicy rebound and again had trouble controlling the puck in his own crease I will stand corrected if someone closer saw it a different way.I was sitting right where the second goal was scored and it was a way stoppable puck in fact IMO 90% of the goaltenders in this league would have stopped it.He seems to have trouble tracking the puck and is way out of position a lot.I also believe this is one of our problems with our PK. He seem to have a real issue tracking the puck when the ice opens up and the puck gets rotated around the zone.Remember your best penalty killer is the goalie and
he needs to be spectacular in those situations and he isn't.As the coach said in the Troy Record today.We put ourselves in a position to win but I thought Scrivens outplayed York.What do you think that means in Appert speak???

 

[IMO]

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Pretty much good points by everyone so far
but I'd like to add that Cornell played really well and CLEAN, was very refreshing to see and made the loss bearable
We created way too many chances to only score one goal, I think our guys need some work on the breakaway because we got a bunch of them and they all pretty much ended the same way and have been all season. That Halpern & Polacek one really stands out, both the goalie and the d man were down on the ground essentially out of the play - Halpern had room to pass to Polacek but opted to wait a little longer then take a poor shot, theres no doubt Polacek would've scored if he touched that puck
O'Grady and Kerins had fantastic games(for the most part) and the fourth line had another good one, Pirri & Polacek not as much...that perfect pass from D'Amgio to Pirri giving him an open net to work with and he puts it off the post...was just disheartening

At least we've shown we can compete with the top of the ECAC(and country...cause they deserve that ranking ) so i'm not too worried, however we certainly need more than 1 goal against the high powered offense that Colgate is bringing.
York also needs to play better, he dropped the rebound on that PP goal and the breakaway he never even put his glove in the air, it was a good shot but not great and York wasn't even close - and this is of course not mentioning the great job the d did of clearing the 15 other huge rebounds York gave. I thought he had learned to grab those bounds or direct them to the side but he seems to have totally forgotten how to.

I was there last night and agree that Cornell played a clean game. The Polacek penalty was clearly a bad call. The Cornell player was going down while Polacek was following the play. The missed pass from Halpern to Polacek could have been a game changer. Polacek was in the perfect position and wide open to bury the puck. Too many times this year we have opted to shoot when a player is wide open. Hope the coaches are uses these moments as teaching tools. There are a couple of players on this team that need to look for the open man rather than trying to do too much themselves. Nice to see Helfrich score from a great pass from Polacek. I am sure Pirri would like to have taken his open net shot back. Even though this team lost it did not feel like previous year losses but York gave up too many rebounds for my comfort.