RPI 2009-10 Part IV: The Boys are Back in Town

[Jasma]

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Thats interesting, never thought about putting Beauregard on the blue line. He has good size, if he can learn the position he might be an asset come playoff time or even next season. Then if Curadi comes this fall we wouldnt have to recruit another Dman for 2010.

Beaurgard mentioned last week that he was a defenseman, although with not much confidence, so I would assume that it is a recent adjustment to the roster. It would seem to be a good move.

 

[Jasma]

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This article seems a bit strange at this point in the season and I hope isn't distracting this team. Here's my question- Why is it that we have two proven, talented point producing forwards riding the pine at this time in the season? Why aren't these players performing to their potential? Just maybe the motivational techniques used are not working-not all techniques used work for all players. If this team is going to be there in the end, I believe these coaches need to figure this out because Cullen and Helfrich- when playing their best- give the team the best chance of winning. JMO

Maybe it is time to stop blaming the coaches and look to the players to perfomr up to their abilities. Helfrich may not have fully recovered from the serious high ankle sprain earlier in the season. Cullen is a more difficult situation to figure out. This is one of those situations where you really need to be involved everyday to have any clue. I think the point Weaver made about the fluctuations in the number of shots Cullen has produced may be an indication of the problem.

 

[burgie12]

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Maybe it is time to stop blaming the coaches and look to the players to perfomr up to their abilities.

Thank you.

 

[Wicked Slappaahs]

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Maybe it is time to stop blaming the coaches and look to the players to perfomr up to their abilities. Helfrich may not have fully recovered from the serious high ankle sprain earlier in the season. Cullen is a more difficult situation to figure out. This is one of those situations where you really need to be involved everyday to have any clue. I think the point Weaver made about the fluctuations in the number of shots Cullen has produced may be an indication of the problem.

Amen! Appert specifically has said Tyler is a "healthy scratch" which to my ears says that he has heard nothing from the training staff to indicate that Tyler is anything less than full-go. Appert & Monty can't lace up the skates and take Tyler & Pat's shifts for them.

This coaching staff uses video as well as any D1 staff does. They're not just talking to these guys, they are showing them, on film, where they are screwing up and what they are expected to do. Monty is a task master...he is relentless in keeping after his guys to focus on playing the game the way they have been taught to play it.

Clearly, the coaches are waiting for these two to prove that they are ready to earn spots in the lineup. Its all about accountability and expectations. If folks can't understand this, I through trying to explain it.

 

[Wicked Slappaahs]

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Beaurgard mentioned last week that he was a defenseman, although with not much confidence, so I would assume that it is a recent adjustment to the roster. It would seem to be a good move.

Interesting indeed. He does indeed have great size for the blue line , and he can skate a bit. I know if I were him, I'd jump at the chance to learn the position and earn some ice time. I do think this is a project that will be implemented in the fall, not this season.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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Interesting indeed. He does indeed have great size for the blue line , and he can skate a bit. I know if I were him, I'd jump at the chance to learn the position and earn some ice time. I do think this is a project that will be implemented in the fall, not this season.

I agree on the implementation. I expect him to develop these skills in practice the next few weeks, as well as in the off-season, now that they are undertaking longer schedules. I see Kennedy helping him a lot with this, and possibly even Brutlag, seeing as how he has experience in both disciplines. Plus, I'm sure he'll have the roller blades out all summer getting himself prepared. From the sounds of it, he works very hard and gave every effort to even have a chance to play in the BU game and get his first point. If D-man is a possibility, he'll go the extra mile.

 

[Ralph Baer]

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I agree on the implementation. I expect him to develop these skills in practice the next few weeks, as well as in the off-season, now that they are undertaking longer schedules. I see Kennedy helping him a lot with this, and possibly even Brutlag, seeing as how he has experience in both disciplines. Plus, I'm sure he'll have the roller blades out all summer getting himself prepared. From the sounds of it, he works very hard and gave every effort to even have a chance to play in the BU game and get his first point. If D-man is a possibility, he'll go the extra mile.

In any case, he will most likely be a depth player. I would be very surprised if he skates regularly.

 

[DrDemento]

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Maybe it is time to stop blaming the coaches and look to the players to perfomr up to their abilities. Helfrich may not have fully recovered from the serious high ankle sprain earlier in the season.

Turning medical for a minute-high ankle sprains are notorious for causing lingering problems. Sometimes a sprain can actually take longer to fully heal than a break. Hockey players tend to be incredibly stoic-in most other sports with that kind of injury the player is out for an indefinite time and can lose most of a season if not the entire thing. I guess what I am alluding to is that even if Tyler is considered at 100%-he may ot really be quite back to that level.

 

[Wicked Slappaahs]

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Turning medical for a minute-high ankle sprains are notorious for causing lingering problems. Sometimes a sprain can actually take longer to fully heal than a break. Hockey players tend to be incredibly stoic-in most other sports with that kind of injury the player is out for an indefinite time and can lose most of a season if not the entire thing. I guess what I am alluding to is that even if Tyler is considered at 100%-he may ot really be quite back to that level.

That very well may be true... If an ankle is bothering someone you can almost always tell by the way they walk, stretch and skate...its very hard to hide a sore ankle, as range of motion are an issue. If he's not skating well or isn't pivoting/planting or changing direction well it would be apparent to all that the injury is nagging. I think that if Seth had any doubts about Tyler's health, we'd have heard mention of it by now.

 

[DrDemento]

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That very well may be true... If an ankle is bothering someone you can almost always tell by the way they walk, stretch and skate...its very hard to hide a sore ankle, as range of motion are an issue. If he's not skating well or isn't pivoting/planting or changing direction well it would be apparent to all that the injury is nagging. I think that if Seth had any doubts about Tyler's health, we'd have heard mention of it by now.

Agreed-usually there are some telltale signs. Just giving the complete medical picture. Some times a player tries to compensate for what seems like a minor injury and ends up changing his entire picture. Most famous case of this I can think of was Dizzy Dean in the 1930's trying to compensate for a toe injury, changing his entire delivery and ruining his arm and shortening his career. Not at all what I am seeing in Helfrich-but just sayin'

 

[Wicked Slappaahs]

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I agree on the implementation. I expect him to develop these skills in practice the next few weeks, as well as in the off-season, now that they are undertaking longer schedules. I see Kennedy helping him a lot with this, and possibly even Brutlag, seeing as how he has experience in both disciplines. Plus, I'm sure he'll have the roller blades out all summer getting himself prepared. From the sounds of it, he works very hard and gave every effort to even have a chance to play in the BU game and get his first point. If D-man is a possibility, he'll go the extra mile.

I know there are limited windows for coaches to work one on one with players in the off season, I am sure that Beauregard will get all of that and more from the players, as you mentioned. If the coaches are serious (these guys don't play around) about making him a contributor he will need to stay on the ice all summer, which I am sure he can do, given the number of pro and college players who workout in the offseason at rinks in and around CT as well as the Westchester area. Also, if he is truly serious about this, I don't think there is anything preventing Kevin from hiring a blueline coach on his own dime to work with him. If nothing else, a skating coach could work him out on the techniques & skills needed on the blueline.

 

[Wicked Slappaahs]

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Agreed-usually there are some telltale signs. Just giving the complete medical picture. Some times a player tries to compensate for what seems like a minor injury and ends up changing his entire picture. ...

You might well be right Doc. The one thing I know is that he has not looked like himself lately, which sadly, reminds us of what he went through with last year's injury. If it is the high-ankle -- it might be one of those scenarios where it won't get to be 100% until he rests the wheel...i.e stops skating on it.

 

[Wicked Slappaahs]

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Rabbani has also been a scratch lately, but CJ Lee's strong play may be keeping Josh in the stands.

 

[DrDemento]

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You might well be right Doc. The one thing I know is that he has not looked like himself lately, which sadly, reminds us of what he went through with last year's injury. If it is the high-ankle -- it might be one of those scenarios where it won't get to be 100% until he rests the wheel...i.e stops skating on it.

Wicked: Sadly I know of several cases that I have seen over the years where what have been called high ankle sprains just do not recover. The ankly is a tricky joint and once ligaments and tendons get somewhat loosened(by an injury) they sometimes just never get back to what they were pre-injury. That slender area of the lower leg has to support the full weight under various turning maneuvers and weight shifting. I am in no position to know anything about Tyler's injury status, but as you indicated, he just does not look like he is skating the same at all.

 

[DrDemento]

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Rabbani has also been a scratch lately, but CJ Lee's strong play may be keeping Josh in the stands.

I love watching Lee and his hustle on the ice-I just wish he would convert some chances and get some scoring going. I feel he has the potential to start putting some in

 

[Wicked Slappaahs]

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The Record piece --Appert's own statements speak for themselves:

“Whomever gives us the best chance to win will (fill out) the lineup,” Appert said. “They have to exhibit that in practice.”

Re: Helfrich: "...When he’s playing properly, he’s a strong defensive player, he can break us out (of the defensive zone), can make plays off the wall to get us out and he’s a player who, when he’s playing properly, can create offense in low play...."

Re: Cullen: "... He needs to be more consistent in his ability to protect and possess pucks in dangerous area."

 

[Wicked Slappaahs]

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I love watching Lee and his hustle on the ice-I just wish he would convert some chances and get some scoring going. I feel he has the potential to start putting some in

His willingness/eagerness to lay the body is a lesson all of our forwards should learn from. He is much like Rabbani in that he plays much bigger than he is. Remember he is a freshman Doc. If nothing else, I have been very very delighted that none of our frosh forwards have played like freshmen.

 

[DrDemento]

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His willingness/eagerness to lay the body is a lesson all of our forwards should learn from. He is much like Rabbani in that he plays much bigger than he is. Remember he is a freshman Doc. If nothing else, I have been very very delighted that none of our frosh forwards have played like freshmen.

That's how I see it too. We are now at the point in the season though where freshmen have gained a considerable amount of experience and start to behave a little less like freshmen. Our freshmen are indeed doing fine-another year with a crop even close to this group and we will really have something.

 

[Red Cloud]

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This article seems a bit strange at this point in the season and I hope isn't distracting this team. Here's my question- Why is it that we have two proven, talented point producing forwards riding the pine at this time in the season? Why aren't these players performing to their potential? Just maybe the motivational techniques used are not working-not all techniques used work for all players. If this team is going to be there in the end, I believe these coaches need to figure this out because Cullen and Helfrich- when playing their best- give the team the best chance of winning. JMO

So very glad you're not the coach.

 

[IMO]

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So very glad you're not the coach.

Wow-that is a brilliant response-one of many you seem to add to the board. It doesn't take a genius to figure out this team would be better with those two in the line up at full speed and I would be stunned if those coaches haven't asked themselves the same question. Any good coach would look at all possiblities if they wanted them back in the line up. I have seem them both play and know the team will go much further if they are in the line up and performing to their abilities.