RPI 2009-10 Part IV: The Boys are Back in Town

[FlagDUDE08]

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Kennedy's hit brought me to my feet! It was classic Scott Stevens...even Kennedy was surprised by it...

I remember his first Governor's Cup, we were playing Colgate, and he completely leveled a player in open ice (perhaps a certain something was said? )... it was almost like Brian Campbell's hit on Umberger during that playoff series a few years ago. In any case, I, along with a few of my friends, knew JFK would be special for RPI.

 

[DavidSec17]

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Kennedy's hit brought me to my feet! It was classic Scott Stevens...even Kennedy was surprised by it...

I remember hearing that call on the radio. I was suprised with the way the officiating in the ECAC is that he wasnt called for 2 minutes.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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I remember hearing that call on the radio. I was suprised with the way the officiating in the ECAC is that he wasnt called for 2 minutes.

Yes, especially since, IIRC, it was an off-the-puck hit. I just wish there was a highlight of some of those hits, even if they were penalties. Those are just priceless. Don Cherry would be proud, even if he is from Saginaw.

 

[DavidSec17]

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If they cared about replay for the fans at the Field House, they might as well put in a jumbo-tron.

I agree. I find this troubling. They spend $90 Mil. a few hundred yards away, but on a weekend when we are celebrating our history, the hockey program has to go to Rent A Center.

How about scrapping the outdoor idea and doing things right for the fans at the Field House?

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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I agree. I find this troubling. They spend $90 Mil. a few hundred yards away, but on a weekend when we are celebrating our history, the hockey program has to go to Rent A Center.

How about scrapping the outdoor idea and doing things right for the fans at the Field House?

On the bright side, there IS a jumbotron there.

 

[Red Cloud]

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How about scrapping the outdoor idea and doing things right for the fans at the Field House?

There is no outdoor idea, just bored fans and journalists.

 

[Red Cloud]

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I was bored, so I did this. Roll it for a while.

ECAC teams games against current TUCs (record)
RPI - 13 (6-7-0)
Clarkson - 12 (1-10-1)
Union - 10 (3-3-4)
Cornell - 9 (3-3-3)
Princeton - 9 (2-6-1)
Yale - 8 (3-3-2)
St. Lawrence - 8 (2-5-1)
Brown - 8 (0-6-2)
Quinnipiac - 7 (3-4-0)
Harvard - 7 (2-5-0)
Colgate - 7 (0-6-1)
Dartmouth - 6 (2-4-0)

In case you're wondering, our wins are UNH, BU, Michigan, Union, and Yale x2.
Our losses are UMass, Union x3, SLU, MSU, and Cornell.

 

[DrDemento]

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I was bored, so I did this. Roll it for a while.

ECAC teams games against current TUCs (record)
RPI - 13 (6-7-0)
Clarkson - 12 (1-10-1)
Union - 10 (3-3-4)
Cornell - 9 (3-3-3)
Princeton - 9 (2-6-1)
Yale - 8 (3-3-2)
St. Lawrence - 8 (2-5-1)
Brown - 8 (0-6-2)
Quinnipiac - 7 (3-4-0)
Harvard - 7 (2-5-0)
Colgate - 7 (0-6-1)
Dartmouth - 6 (2-4-0)

In case you're wondering, our wins are UNH, BU, Michigan, Union, and Yale x2.
Our losses are UMass, Union x3, SLU, MSU, and Cornell.

Thanks RC-very interesting stat.

 

[Ralph Baer]

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Thanks RC-very interesting stat.

seconded

 

[burgie12]

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Interesting and disturbing. Not a single team above 500? No wonder the ECAC is not respected.

 

[apple2k]

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And yet, in PWR:
Cornell 13
Union 17
Yale 18
SLU 22
All hope is not lost for MASSIVE respect.

 

[Red Cloud]

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And yet, in PWR:
Cornell 13
Union 17
Yale 18
SLU 22
All hope is not lost for MASSIVE respect.

4 out of 12 in the Pairwise and none in the top 10 is hardly respect inducing.

 

[apple2k]

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It isn't? Darn.

 

[RHamilton]

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Some answers about the Projector/Replay:

It will be a 7000 Lumen 3LCD projector that's being rented from an outside contractor. The screen measures 10.5' by 14' and will be mounted on a platform in Section 1. The projector itself will be mounted on a Genie lift behind section 1 (in the little HoF area). Brightness will be interesting, to say the least. From what I understand, the contractor recommended a 10k lumen projector but room couldn't be found in the budget.

The screen will be used during the panel on Friday and between periods on both nights to show highlights of the 1985 championships game. During the game, we'll be showing instant replays of the game action. The system is more-or-less separate from our broadcast. I expect the broadcast will only include "special" replays while the projector screen will show a lot more.


Some more video/audio news (if you couldn't tell, it's my specialty ) the Field House will be getting a new house audio system this summer. The NCAA mandated instant replay system will also be installed. There's also talk of a new 3-sided (or 4, they haven't decided) scoreboard that will be installed at center ice with video screens. The last document I saw did not include the new scoreboard though, so it may be another year away. I suspect that if we (RPI TV) do a good enough job on the replay this weekend they'll be able to justify the purchase of a scoreboard with video screens.

I agree with the sentiment that money is flowing in strange directions. I can't figure out how so much money went to the ECAV Stadium and Arena yet so little is going to be spent on the Field House...

 

[engineerhockeyfan]

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Some answers about the Projector/Replay:

It will be a 7000 Lumen 3LCD projector that's being rented from an outside contractor. The screen measures 10.5' by 14' and will be mounted on a platform in Section 1. The projector itself will be mounted on a Genie lift behind section 1 (in the little HoF area). Brightness will be interesting, to say the least. From what I understand, the contractor recommended a 10k lumen projector but room couldn't be found in the budget.

The screen will be used during the panel on Friday and between periods on both nights to show highlights of the 1985 championships game. During the game, we'll be showing instant replays of the game action. The system is more-or-less separate from our broadcast. I expect the broadcast will only include "special" replays while the projector screen will show a lot more.


Some more video/audio news (if you couldn't tell, it's my specialty ) the Field House will be getting a new house audio system this summer. The NCAA mandated instant replay system will also be installed. There's also talk of a new 3-sided (or 4, they haven't decided) scoreboard that will be installed at center ice with video screens. The last document I saw did not include the new scoreboard though, so it may be another year away. I suspect that if we (RPI TV) do a good enough job on the replay this weekend they'll be able to justify the purchase of a scoreboard with video screens.

I agree with the sentiment that money is flowing in strange directions. I can't figure out how so much money went to the ECAV Stadium and Arena yet so little is going to be spent on the Field House...

I have a question. Who's budget are we talking about regarding this weekends projector? Also, not knowing anything about such things, is the difference in price that big from 7K to 10K?

 

[jmhusker]

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I was bored, so I did this. Roll it for a while.

ECAC teams games against current TUCs (record)
RPI - 13 (6-7-0)
Clarkson - 12 (1-10-1)
Union - 10 (3-3-4)
Cornell - 9 (3-3-3)
Princeton - 9 (2-6-1)
Yale - 8 (3-3-2)
St. Lawrence - 8 (2-5-1)
Brown - 8 (0-6-2)
Quinnipiac - 7 (3-4-0)
Harvard - 7 (2-5-0)
Colgate - 7 (0-6-1)
Dartmouth - 6 (2-4-0)

In case you're wondering, our wins are UNH, BU, Michigan, Union, and Yale x2.
Our losses are UMass, Union x3, SLU, MSU, and Cornell.

Two things that I think this highlights:

1. If we string a few wins together and get our RPI up to top 25 we should fare pretty well in the PWR (better than our RPI would suggest). Two wins this weekend might do it - and it gets us to 7-7 vs. TUC.

2. Colgate is just not as strong as their ECAC record. I can't see them hanging with the top 4 teams.

 

[USCHO GM]

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Two things that I think this highlights:

1. If we string a few wins together and get our RPI up to top 25 we should fare pretty well in the PWR (better than our RPI would suggest). Two wins this weekend might do it - and it gets us to 7-7 vs. TUC.

Unfortunately "pretty well" in the PWR is not good enough unless it is in the Top 12 or 13.

The stat tells us exactly why the ECAC doesn't have many teams in the Top 12 of the PWR. Because there are not 1 or 2 dominant teams in the league.

When that happens, that translates back to RPI and TUC and common opponents, thus raising the PWR.

Thus when you look at the WCHA, they have some dominant teams at the top, thus raising the entire conference's PWR.

What the ECAC needs is for the top teams in this league to go on massive runs. Meaning that Cornell and Yale and maybe even SLU and Union, should go on unbeaten runs to head into the playoffs. Then the mid-tier ECAC teams will get a rise in the RPI and the other factors that go along with the PWR.

 

[Ralph Baer]

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Jayson,

Haven't seen you on an RPI thread in a couple of years. Don't be a stranger.

BTW, the most important thing is for RPI to win. Anything else has to be secondary. I would guess that of the teams that you mentioned, it is most important for Yale to keep winning since we defeated them twice. If that is wrong, then I certainly defer to your paying much more attention to PWR than I have over the years.

I do expect that although currently only one ECAC will make the NCAA tourney, most likely there will be at least two, even without an upset winner in the ECAC tourney.

 

[redhead18]

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Some more video/audio news (if you couldn't tell, it's my specialty ) the Field House will be getting a new house audio system this summer. The NCAA mandated instant replay system will also be installed. There's also talk of a new 3-sided (or 4, they haven't decided) scoreboard that will be installed at center ice with video screens. The last document I saw did not include the new scoreboard though, so it may be another year away. I suspect that if we (RPI TV) do a good enough job on the replay this weekend they'll be able to justify the purchase of a scoreboard with video screens.

Thats fantastic news to hear! The current audio system has definately seen better days. Any word if they are planning on replacing the lighting system inside the Field House? Ive heard its a nightmare for photographers and I would imagine the same goes for shooting video.

 

[Red Cloud]

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Two things that I think this highlights:

1. If we string a few wins together and get our RPI up to top 25 we should fare pretty well in the PWR (better than our RPI would suggest). Two wins this weekend might do it - and it gets us to 7-7 vs. TUC.

2. Colgate is just not as strong as their ECAC record. I can't see them hanging with the top 4 teams.

What Jayson said, plus a little extra...

First off, a sweep this weekend probably isn't enough to make the Engineers a TUC. We're in 31st in RPI. Moving up 6 spots in one weekend wouldn't be unheard of, but it's not terribly likely in a weekend where you're taking on the #55 out of 58 RPI team (Clarkson).

Second, St. Lawrence is 23rd in RPI. That's tenuous, and we're playing them. Beating them could make us 7-7 against TUCs, but it could also make us 6-6 (assuming BU, who's also pretty tenuous, stays above the golden 25 level).

Third, to go right along with what Jayson said, even a 7-7 record against TUCs isn't lighting the Pairwise on fire - and RPI is the most important component of the comparisons since it's the nominal tiebreaker. If the Engineers were a TUC right now (assuming their RPI was about at 25, meaning they don't win that criteria with anyone), they don't win the comparison with anyone (although BU and Minnesota would be close). Simply having .500 record against TUCs can help you win that criteria against lower-end PWR teams, but RPI is the most important, and losing the common opponent criteria (as the Engineers do with BU, SLU, and the Gophers) makes the TUC thing a wash anyway.

Realistically, the Engineers are only making the NCAA tournament if they hoist the Whitelaw Cup in Albany. They could go on a tear that would make them a TUC, but I just don't see them being able to rise high enough, fast enough, to make a splash in the PWR.

Oh... and totally agree on Colgate. Their record against quality teams makes them look like a paper tiger.