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>>> RIT Tigers 2018/2019 - Time For The Tigers to Roar <<<
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Hockeyplayer82
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Re: >>> RIT Tigers 2018/2019 - Time For The Tigers to Roar <<<
Let's start with a productive weekend.
Let's start with a productive weekend.
Tom Naeger
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This past weekend does illustrate my concern with this years team. They still seem to suffer from some of the disease that been hanging around for the last 3 years. I thought Bentley was a better team than their record indicated and they seem to be hot. So dropping a series to them is not as concerning as RIT just didn't have the work ethic at times. It's what been the most frustrating item the last 3 years, the talent is there, discipline and brains have not been there consistently. You are just not going to stay at the head of this pack if you do that. Take this team back to the 2010 AHA and I bet you they are neck and neck with Air Force. You could take a night off against AIC and still pull out a win. And of course we see AIC as a top team and the Tigers have 4 wins against them. Unreal.
As unfair as it may be, guys like Erik Brown need to bury the puck and not hit the post in OT. But even more so, the team can't take most of the first period off.
A lot has been made on coaching, much on a view that is unrealistic for the reality of today's AHA, but I will say this. If have not been try yet I would take Crash's approach in Bull Durham. "Scare them, they're kids..."
You got the talent boys, rest of this year is about if your willing to outwork your opponents...
This past weekend does illustrate my concern with this years team. They still seem to suffer from some of the disease that been hanging around for the last 3 years. I thought Bentley was a better team than their record indicated and they seem to be hot. So dropping a series to them is not as concerning as RIT just didn't have the work ethic at times. It's what been the most frustrating item the last 3 years, the talent is there, discipline and brains have not been there consistently. You are just not going to stay at the head of this pack if you do that. Take this team back to the 2010 AHA and I bet you they are neck and neck with Air Force. You could take a night off against AIC and still pull out a win. And of course we see AIC as a top team and the Tigers have 4 wins against them. Unreal.
As unfair as it may be, guys like Erik Brown need to bury the puck and not hit the post in OT. But even more so, the team can't take most of the first period off.
A lot has been made on coaching, much on a view that is unrealistic for the reality of today's AHA, but I will say this. If have not been try yet I would take Crash's approach in Bull Durham. "Scare them, they're kids..."
You got the talent boys, rest of this year is about if your willing to outwork your opponents...
I was hoping to discuss religion but you have failed me by excluding it in your list. I also found it very funny!
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Just a random thought here about this. One of the hallmarks of the great teams that we had when RIT started Atlantic Hockey was that some recruits that seemed highly touted (unless I am misremembering things) becoming excellent role players. The best example I can think of was Scotty Knowles. I believe he came in has a scorer, but became one of the better all-around players. I don't know if we have that today.
We have talent, but maybe the focus needs to not be on the best players, but the right players.
Just a random thought here about this. One of the hallmarks of the great teams that we had when RIT started Atlantic Hockey was that some recruits that seemed highly touted (unless I am misremembering things) becoming excellent role players. The best example I can think of was Scotty Knowles. I believe he came in has a scorer, but became one of the better all-around players. I don't know if we have that today.
We have talent, but maybe the focus needs to not be on the best players, but the right players.
TigerFan86-87
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I think I've actually accused this team during down times of having a team full of very good role players and no stars to populate that top line that opponents have to scheme for. I agree that they have a bunch of talent, but they either don't have enough game-plan-disrupting talent at the top end or the guys that would be that aren't having very good years. Although right now I'm not sure how much that theory holds out. Last season Brown was without a doubt in that category with Powell certainly in the conversation as well, but the team didn't do well at all. This year, the team has looked very good (more often than not), despite the facts that Powell is gone (and arguably hasn't been replaced yet) and Brown is not having his best year by any means. A lot of very talented role players are stepping up and filling those voids... most of the time.
I think that can be said of a lot of recruits coming in. I don't follow the recruiting scene really at all outside of this forum, but it seems like most of the players we get put up numbers in juniors. So as a fan who never follows those leagues and has never seen them play, I (and I assume a large number of RIT fans aside from Tom) have absolutely no idea what kind of player they will turn out to be when they get here. I'm sure the coaching staff has a pretty good idea how they'll fit in and what their role will likely be early on, but most of us do not, necessarily, until we see the results. I can recall at least a couple of times where a freshman came in with junior numbers and got himself a few goals in his first game or two, leading to a belief (by us who don't know any better) that he might be the next top-line star. More often than not, he doesn't end up being that guy, but what we didn't know is that it was never the plan. He just had an aberration of a great game or two right out of the gate. So some of those are unfairly painted as "disappointments", when really they weren't.
I think I've actually accused this team during down times of having a team full of very good role players and no stars to populate that top line that opponents have to scheme for. I agree that they have a bunch of talent, but they either don't have enough game-plan-disrupting talent at the top end or the guys that would be that aren't having very good years. Although right now I'm not sure how much that theory holds out. Last season Brown was without a doubt in that category with Powell certainly in the conversation as well, but the team didn't do well at all. This year, the team has looked very good (more often than not), despite the facts that Powell is gone (and arguably hasn't been replaced yet) and Brown is not having his best year by any means. A lot of very talented role players are stepping up and filling those voids... most of the time.
RIT Winters
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I think the difference from last year to this was the breakout of Drackett putting up league average or better numbers (something all 3 goalies failed to do last year) and our defense playing a more responsible two way game. The scoring really has not necessarily been there for us, and as you note we certainly do not have a line or even a player we can really count on when we really need to get something going. Instead, we need our D and goalie to make sure we never end up in a situation like that.
I think the difference from last year to this was the breakout of Drackett putting up league average or better numbers (something all 3 goalies failed to do last year) and our defense playing a more responsible two way game. The scoring really has not necessarily been there for us, and as you note we certainly do not have a line or even a player we can really count on when we really need to get something going. Instead, we need our D and goalie to make sure we never end up in a situation like that.
RIT Winters
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"Out with a lower body injury sustained last weekend" per WITR.
At least they aren't turning to Short..
"Out with a lower body injury sustained last weekend" per WITR.
At least they aren't turning to Short..
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Any updates on Peacock?
Any updates on Peacock?
RIT Winters
Hey, you SUCK!
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Absolutely! Drackett's improvement has been a big part of this team's success. Continued play like that will go a long way to breaking RIT's streak of 1st round exits in the AHA tournament.
Absolutely! Drackett's improvement has been a big part of this team's success. Continued play like that will go a long way to breaking RIT's streak of 1st round exits in the AHA tournament.
RIT Winters
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Andriano looked pretty good last night, too. Safe to say Shorty is probably never seeing action again except to clean up a blowout.
Andriano looked pretty good last night, too. Safe to say Shorty is probably never seeing action again except to clean up a blowout.
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I thought he was pretty good as well, especially later in the game. He still left some big rebounds, but the defense was able to clean them up. Tonight's game is almost more important than last night's now when you consider that next week is a pair of non-conference games.
I thought he was pretty good as well, especially later in the game. He still left some big rebounds, but the defense was able to clean them up. Tonight's game is almost more important than last night's now when you consider that next week is a pair of non-conference games.
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Nice weekend. Andriano played well all weekend, and the 2nd line really stepped up tonight. Hopefully the injuries suffered on the weekend aren't too serious. Nice to see them start to take care of buisness at home. Two home sweeps in a row will boost that home record to levels we haven't seen since the Garbowski class at least. I am a huge fan of the free student nights. You've got a big building, and it's tough to fill. You're not turning away paying customers by giving students free tickets, so in my mind it's a no brainer, especially when you take into account concessions. It also helps that they're winning these games.
Nice weekend. Andriano played well all weekend, and the 2nd line really stepped up tonight. Hopefully the injuries suffered on the weekend aren't too serious. Nice to see them start to take care of buisness at home. Two home sweeps in a row will boost that home record to levels we haven't seen since the Garbowski class at least. I am a huge fan of the free student nights. You've got a big building, and it's tough to fill. You're not turning away paying customers by giving students free tickets, so in my mind it's a no brainer, especially when you take into account concessions. It also helps that they're winning these games.
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RIT is 6-1-2 in its last 9 games.
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RIT is 6-1-2 in its last 9 games.
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I agree it's good to get the students in the building, but giving away tickets is not quite a no-brainer. The main objection is that it devalues paid tickets; people (in this case, students) become less likely to pay full price for tickets in the future, as they figure they can just wait for free ones to come around again. Many minor league pro teams have encountered this problem, such as the Knighthawks before Styres' ownership.
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I agree it's good to get the students in the building, but giving away tickets is not quite a no-brainer. The main objection is that it devalues paid tickets; people (in this case, students) become less likely to pay full price for tickets in the future, as they figure they can just wait for free ones to come around again. Many minor league pro teams have encountered this problem, such as the Knighthawks before Styres' ownership.
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Red Wings GM Dan Mason is not a fan of free ticket days as those people aren't necessarily going to buy concessions. He is in favor of reduced price tickets. Another idea would be a food drive where a can of food gets you a ticket.
Red Wings GM Dan Mason is not a fan of free ticket days as those people aren't necessarily going to buy concessions. He is in favor of reduced price tickets. Another idea would be a food drive where a can of food gets you a ticket.
RIT Winters
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In the future I think the math gets more complicated, but with the current attendance usually sitting at like 50% I really don't think there is a good argument against it. Even if you lose a bit of the ticket gate to what you mention, you still gain concessions due to more total bodies in seats. And more importantly, you gain the oppurtunity to captivate students who were previously disinterested and turn them into fans. Winning a bunch of free student games will lead to overall better attendance and interest from students, which means more merch sales, more season ticket sales, and more seats bought when free tickets aren't an option
In the future I think the math gets more complicated, but with the current attendance usually sitting at like 50% I really don't think there is a good argument against it. Even if you lose a bit of the ticket gate to what you mention, you still gain concessions due to more total bodies in seats. And more importantly, you gain the oppurtunity to captivate students who were previously disinterested and turn them into fans. Winning a bunch of free student games will lead to overall better attendance and interest from students, which means more merch sales, more season ticket sales, and more seats bought when free tickets aren't an option
There's a significant difference between minor league teams providing free tickets and college teams doing it only for their students. I would go a step further and say only walk up tickets should be free for students. Obviously at current attendance levels it amounts to the same thing, but if they ever start selling out the building consistently then you would be giving precedence to paying customers - if you want to make sure you can get in, you'd have to buy them.
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