>>>>> RIT TIGERS 2013-2014 - Rocking The Ritter One Last Time <<<<<

[TigerFan86-87]

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Given the video angle (which is pretty much the opposite one we had from the pressbox), it should have been called a penalty. As has been explained to me by several referees over the years, the Michigan player took away a potential scoring opportunity so that makes it cross the threshold to being a penalty.

He took a scoring chance away, but what did he do illegally? No hook, no trip, no interference (skater had touched the puck already), no elbow, no kneeing, no charging, no hitting from behind (used feet to get parallel with skater), no roughing, no cross-checking, etc... I thought so at the time and seeing it in slow-motion confirms that it was a legal open-ice check on a player that had the puck. Sometimes good hits take away scoring chances. That's what they're for. The home crowd will boo that one every time because they all thought they saw a break-away coming, but that doesn't make it a penalty.

 

[TigerFan86-87]

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Yeah, me too! If we can keep this level of play up consistently, it could be a fun season!

Offensively, yes.
Defensively, maybe not so much.
I like what appeared to be the gameplan. It looked like the Tigers realized that the best way to keep the powerful Wolverines off of Jordan Ruby was to possess the puck as much as possible in Michigan's end of the ice. The few times that the puck was in RIT's end it was nerve-racking, especially in the first. I don't know if I've ever seen a team get outplayed territorially while at the same time crushing the opponent with four seemingly "easy" goals in one period quite like that before. It was so hard to see through the 4-0 score and truly notice that from the very first shift, the Tigers' offense was playing an aggressive puck possession game and keeping Michigan hemmed in their own zone much much more frequently than they even attempted to do against Colgate. I never expected RIT to outplay and outshoot a team like Michigan that way, but I was not surprised by the defensive lapses that allowed the Wolverines to never trail in the game. It's too bad that Ruby was hung out to dry so much. It was difficult to tell how much of those first four goals was his responsibility, what with the first four goals coming from point-blank range with no defensemen in the area. The fifth was clearly his mistake not being quite ready for the shot (still not sure, did that hit the wrong side of his stick and go in or what?), but the sixth was another where he definitely did his job while the rebound wasn't cleared.
So I'm torn between being much more optimistic that RIT can offensively play with any team and being stuck again worried about a defense that lets up just enough quality chances to lose regardless of how well the offense plays. Seems they fixed what went wrong on Thursday while regressing to repeating what was their achilles' heel last season. Now that the offense is back on track, let's hope the defense can be fixed before tha AHA schedule starts.

 

[Tom Naeger]

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My take on the Blue Cross game. Again to many bad give aways and Coach Wilson had to use another saying he had to use a lot since last season.

"Every mistake we made ended up in the back of our net"

And he is right. Defensemen needs to be better and we need the guys who are suppose to be our top defensemen to play like our top defensemen. Goal-tending wise, there is just no way that game winning goal can go in. Deep down I believe I knew it was over after that, what a crushing blow after coming back from 4 down.

The Good News: RIT has shown a lot of promise in 2 periods against Queens, and 2 of the periods again Michigan. No doubt this team has the tools, it just seems there a mental aspect to over come. They play a Clarkson team picked to finished last in the ECAC but has shown they are no push over and appear to be a winning team. It will take a 60 minute effort to beat them...

He took a scoring chance away, but what did he do illegally? No hook, no trip, no interference (skater had touched the puck already), no elbow, no kneeing, no charging, no hitting from behind (used feet to get parallel with skater), no roughing, no cross-checking, etc... I thought so at the time and seeing it in slow-motion confirms that it was a legal open-ice check on a player that had the puck. Sometimes good hits take away scoring chances. That's what they're for. The home crowd will boo that one every time because they all thought they saw a break-away coming, but that doesn't make it a penalty.

That is a holding call or Interference take your pick. Once they take that hand off the stick and reach that is not a body check, just like with your stick your not allowed to obstruct a player with your extended arm. Back in the day they would call that obstruction-interference which always seemed like an oxymoron, but I'll skip the obvious pun... Scary, given the referee selection it seems once again one of the guys I consider one of the worst officials in the AHA is now being consider one of the best officials by the AHA. Must be the same guy who rated Marofsky...

Two things to say,
1. I went to the alumni reception and Wilson gave the most depressing speech ever from a coach. If he went into the locker room and said what he said there I think I'd quit the team.
2. How did assigned seat work for you? Cause I had 5 empty seats next to me three rows back near the announcer's booth. The arena looked very empty to me even if it was a sellout game there were a lot of no shows. I wonder if Thursday put a damper on them. We were only slightly we couldn't sit with our friends that aren't season ticket holders since we did get with them at the alumni event, but if I had to do this every game I wouldn't like it.

1) Missed the part in Wayne's job description that he was personally responsible for firing you up. I'll get him on the phone right away...

2) It was great, my party of 6 was able to get dinner and have a couple of drinks before the game. Then not hurry to the game 15 minutes before it started and got to sit in our great seats just before introductions...

 

[tigerprincess7]

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The Corner Crew had this picture of the missed obstruction call in their album from the game ... it is near the end of the play but for the two players to be in that position I would think there was interference.

 

[RITFan67]

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Two of our goals from the Michigan game made it to the top five NCAA men's hockey plays of the week: http://www.ncaa.com/video#!2013-10-...s-of-the-week-101513-sacred-heart-drew-george

 

[Scott Biggar]

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That is a holding call or Interference take your pick. Once they take that hand off the stick and reach that is not a body check, just like with your stick your not allowed to obstruct a player with your extended arm. Back in the day they would call that obstruction-interference

In the old days, it would have been called Obstruction-Interference but they took all of the Obstruction-??? rules out of the current book. Penalties such as Interference or the current Obstruction rule both only apply to non-puck carrying players.

Holding might have been an appropriate call because the Michigan player extended his arm but he did not grab or hold the RIT player, so that one isn't quite right either.

Tripping seems to apply as the rule states:
"Tripping - A player shall not place the stick or any part of the body in such a manner that causes an opposing player to trip or fall."

Extending the arm and pushing down the RIT player carrying the puck seems to fit into this category quite well.

 

[LtPowers]

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Goal-tending wise, there is just no way that game winning goal can go in.

Is there any evidence that Ruby's skate got caught in the ice or something? I thought I read something about that.


Powers &8^]

 

[redhotzep96]

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Is there any evidence that Ruby's skate got caught in the ice or something? I thought I read something about that.


Powers &8^]

From what I saw in my seat angled right in line with the shot, the puck was shot at Ruby just slightly in front of him. He reached out his stick a little to grab the puck but ended up deflecting it right between his legs into his net.

Here's a highlight video from the night:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja3KISuyQ7o#t=12 (embedding the video won't work...)

 

[RITProf]

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Is there any evidence that Ruby's skate got caught in the ice or something? I thought I read something about that.

He said that in one of the articles (forgot which), but he also accepted full blame/responsibility for the puck going in. It didn't sound like he was making excuses, but rather just explaining what happened.

-Mark

 

[SmallTown]

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He said that in one of the articles (forgot which), but he also accepted full blame/responsibility for the puck going in. It didn't sound like he was making excuses, but rather just explaining what happened.

-Mark

It was mentioned in the D&C article that Ruby's skate got stuck in a divet and caused him to not be able to get into position in time. I watched the Sportszone broadcast of the game and you can clearly see something happen to him right as he's getting into position. You can see him look down as though something caught him and then see him unable to get into position in time to stop the puck. Fluke things like that happen, not much you can do about it, but like you said He was not making excuses and took responsibility for it.

 

[TigerFan86-87]

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Tripping seems to apply as the rule states:
"Tripping - A player shall not place the stick or any part of the body in such a manner that causes an opposing player to trip or fall."

That's a bit of a stretch. If that play could be called tripping, nearly any check that causes a player to fall could also be called tripping. No dice.
I do agree with you that interference (obstruction) does not apply since the Tiger in question had the puck, and that holding probably does not apply either as the Michigan player didn't grab or wrap up in any way.
As far as the "extended arm" case... He did extend his arm initially, but didn't really use the extended arm to do anything. As he closed the gap he pulled it back into himself and used his shoulder/upper arm to knock they guy over.
At the end of the day, we can all agree to disagree. It matters not now. The call is what it is and RIT lost. On to Clarkson.

 

[dxk3355]

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1) Missed the part in Wayne's job description that he was personally responsible for firing you up. I'll get him on the phone right away...

How about the part where they motivate the players, if the coach isn't motivated then he's not going to be able to do that.

 

[blazer777]

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1) Missed the part in Wayne's job description that he was personally responsible for firing you up. I'll get him on the phone right away...

How about the part where they motivate the players, if the coach isn't motivated then he's not going to be able to do that.

I'm sure what he says at these events is a lot 'tamer' than what he says in the locker room to get the players motiviated if they need it.

 

[blazer777]

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1) Missed the part in Wayne's job description that he was personally responsible for firing you up. I'll get him on the phone right away...

How about the part where they motivate the players, if the coach isn't motivated then he's not going to be able to do that.

I'm sure what he says at these events is a lot 'tamer' than what he says in the locker room to get the players motiviated if they need it.

 

[lmg6841]

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Looks like SHU is born again. I was skeptical of their UML win, since those wins can be fluky, but form the looks of it they took it to Bently quite handily.

 

[Ivan Lennon]

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Games in the NC:

Wonder if CCT provides webcasts as does SLU for all home games - in HD no less

 

[RIT Winters]

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Okay, is Sacred Heart the real deal this year? Or is Bentley just returning to being a joke?

 

[komey1]

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Okay, is Sacred Heart the real deal this year? Or is Bentley just returning to being a joke?

Time will tell about Sacred Heart. The Pios seem opportunistic, since they got 2 power play goals. Bentley has some really good players but not the depth.

Right now I'd say a little of column A, a little of column B.

One thing we know is that there are no easy wins in the league like there used to be.

 

[TigerFan86-87]

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but form the looks of it they took it to Bently quite handily.

If you call winning 3-1 while being outshot 38-19 "handily" winning, then yes. Sounds like just one of those games where the goalie is hot and the team is opportunistic (or Komm had an off night).

 

[Tom Naeger]

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Okay, is Sacred Heart the real deal this year? Or is Bentley just returning to being a joke?

I think Bentley is going to tank because Chris Lerch is driving there band wagon this year

Seriously, Bentley tanked at the end of the year last year. They have a lot to prove this season...

Sacred Heart will need to prove they can do it for more than two eye raising wins to get a vote of confidence, but like we been saying for years, thinking your going to win any night with a half effort will kill you.

How about the part where they motivate the players, if the coach isn't motivated then he's not going to be able to do that.

Wayne is just not a fiery type of coach, if you want that then I invite you to become a Plattsburgh State fan. Gosh am I the only one that misses Bob Emery on here?

Given Wayne record over the years, he seems to do just find motivating his players to win...