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[RIT Winters]

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If you call winning 3-1 while being outshot 38-19 "handily" winning, then yes. Sounds like just one of those games where the goalie is hot and the team is opportunistic (or Komm had an off night).

Well their goalie is a transfer from a much more respectable program, so based on what we've seen so far....he might just be that good.

 

[dxk3355]

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Well I only heard the game on the radio, but it sounds like it was a real one sided game for Clarkson. RIT doesn't really seem to get into the games until late and that's after they have dug themselves into a hole. They really to start getting the first goal in a game since season. This is like the 4th game now where they are letting the other team build big leads on them. Also where was the defense!

 

[Rochester]

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Given Wayne record over the years, he seems to do just find motivating his players to win...

I'm starting to disagree. Either that or he is recruiting the wrong type of players with his coaching style. Or 2010 was a fluke.

 

[redhotzep96]

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I'm starting to disagree. Either that or he is recruiting the wrong type of players with his coaching style. Or 2010 was a fluke.

I've been leaning more and more towards a fluke for some time.

 

[RIT Winters]

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I've been leaning more and more towards a fluke for some time.

It wasn't a fluke, but it wasn't a mastery of coaching or even skill. DeMike played way out of his league for two games and a Cinderella story was born. That's pretty much it.

 

[komey1]

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The 2010 team was a very special team that had a magical run aided by a goalie playing out of his mind in a relative home games.

Getting TO the NCAA tournament is a realistic goal, but anything more than that should be considered gravy at this point.

 

[Rochester]

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It wasn't a fluke, but it wasn't a mastery of coaching or even skill. DeMike played way out of his league for two games and a Cinderella story was born. That's pretty much it.

I guess my real question is. Is RIT going to grow as a hockey program? I could have sworn going to the Frozen Four would have helped a lot with recruiting. Then, RIT announced a new ice arena which is being built at this very moment. I thought that would have helped with recruiting... Something isn't right. Something is not right at all.

RIT is in the AHA. We're rock bottom in leagues. I could understand other teams in other leagues having bad seasons but RIT is already rock bottom being in the AHA. RIT not being top 1 or 2 teams in this league year in and year out means RIT is failing. I would understand if RIT was in the ECAC but they're not.

Is it coaching? Is it recruiting? Is it that RIT does not have scholarships? That could be since we are in such a fragile economy. Who wouldn't want a full ride? The only reason Niagara is worth anything is because of scholarships. Imagine what RIT would be like with them. BIG TEN?!

I am not ranting about this year in particular but since the Frozen Four run, RIT failed at capitalizing on its success with that run and the new arena. This should not be taken likely because those two things alone should have carried this program alone!

 

[RITProf]

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As well as DeMichel played (very), he didn't put up 6 goals on UNH!!

I go with not a fluke, but magical and rare; agree that AHA Championship is the realistic goal. Winning a game or two (or more) in the NCAA is always possible, but will be extremely rare until something in the landscape changes to put the AHA champ at a much higher seeding.

 

[Rochester]

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It wasn't a fluke, but it wasn't a mastery of coaching or even skill. DeMike played way out of his league for two games and a Cinderella story was born. That's pretty much it.

I guess my real question is. Is RIT going to grow as a hockey program? I could have sworn going to the Frozen Four would have helped a lot with recruiting. Then, RIT announced a new ice arena which is being built at this very moment. I thought that would have helped with recruiting... Something isn't right. Something is not right at all.

RIT is in the AHA. We're rock bottom in leagues. I could understand other teams in other leagues having bad seasons but RIT is already rock bottom being in the AHA. RIT not being top 1 or 2 teams in this league year in and year out means RIT is failing. I would understand if RIT was in the ECAC but they're not.

Is it coaching? Is it recruiting? Is it that RIT does not have scholarships? That could be since we are in such a fragile economy. Who wouldn't want a full ride? The only reason Niagara is worth anything is because of scholarships. Imagine what RIT would be like with them. BIG TEN?!

I am not ranting about this year in particular but since the Frozen Four run, RIT failed at capitalizing on its success with that run and the new arena. This should not be taken likely because those two things alone should have carried this program alone!

 

[komey1]

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I guess my real question is. Is RIT going to grow as a hockey program? I could have sworn going to the Frozen Four would have helped a lot with recruiting. Then, RIT announced a new ice arena which is being built at this very moment. I thought that would have helped with recruiting... Something isn't right. Something is not right at all.

On paper, the team usually seems to be fairly well. If there is one thing, I don't think that the overall defensemen that were recruited were as good as the ones we had. I think landing Kuquali and Schuler is a start in turning that around.

RIT is in the AHA. We're rock bottom in leagues. I could understand other teams in other leagues having bad seasons but RIT is already rock bottom being in the AHA. RIT not being top 1 or 2 teams in this league year in and year out means RIT is failing. I would understand if RIT was in the ECAC but they're not.

Since RIT joined, the league added Niagara and Robert Morris - both solid programs. Other teams have also gotten better. Teams like Canisius where RIT could sweep or get the majority of the points easily are over. The league is a lot more competitive than 4 years ago.

Is it coaching? Is it recruiting? Is it that RIT does not have scholarships? That could be since we are in such a fragile economy. Who wouldn't want a full ride? The only reason Niagara is worth anything is because of scholarships. Imagine what RIT would be like with them. BIG TEN?!

I'm pretty sure Wayne Wilson has forgotten more about hockey than most of us will ever know. I don't think you can discount not being able to get an athletic scholarship in this economy, though I am fairly certain that the hockey players are getting some aid. [/QUOTE]

I am not ranting about this year in particular but since the Frozen Four run, RIT failed at capitalizing on its success with that run and the new arena. This should not be taken likely because those two things alone should have carried this program alone!

What do you mean capitalize on it it or carry it then? What exactly are your expectations?

 

[RITProf]

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Yep, those athletic scholarships carried Yale to a national championship.

I think RIT's 2010 run might have done more for the AHA overall than RIT specifically. While the memories are fun, big games like Mich. and BC in town (with sellouts) and a swank new arena will probably do more for the program going forward. Nobody is coming to RIT expecting another FF run. (hoping -- yes, expecting -- no).

It's going to be a VERY LOOOOOOOOONG time before we have to worry about any realistic discussion of athletic scholarships at RIT (OK, maybe the NCAA rules could change ...)

 

[Rochester]

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I am stationed in Germany at the moment, so watching the Tigers isn't in the cards.

Did anyone see how Ruby played last night? I have some high hopes for this guy.

 

[lmg6841]

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http://www.justin.tv/furtwangler

I am stationed in Germany at the moment, so watching the Tigers isn't in the cards.

Did anyone see how Ruby played last night? I have some high hopes for this guy.

 

[Downstate_RIT_Fan]

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Yep, those athletic scholarships carried Yale to a national championship.

Not so fast. Yes, Yale got it done without scholarships, yes we know that Union seems to field competitive teams year after year without scholarships, but although it's impossible to know, I bet you will find a wide disparity in the average income of those parents sending their children to play hockey at Yale without scholarships than you would say parents sending their student hockey player to a Niagara or Canisius with an athletic scholarship. Not all parents who have kids at Yale are super wealthy but the average income of those parents is likely higher. Therefore I do think the fragile economy and if a school offers athletic scholarships could influence whether a student hockey player would attend a D1 school offering athletic scholarships or not.

However I do agree with RITProf that it is probably not that big of a deal once the kids hit the ice. Lots of these kids played with each other in other leagues prior to college, and some will play against each other after college (Burt and Brenner played against each other last night if you guys didn't notice).

I think team leadership by it's captains and co-captains on the ice and especially in the locker room along with solid coaching separates the top teams year after year from the one and done teams. You can't just lay it at the feet of the players and you can't lay it just at the feet of the coaches. I look forward to this team growing through this season and I know the coaching staff will make any necessary adjustments to keep this team motivated and performing as one cohesive unit and not just a handful of of individual contributors. I think we have some decent players and I am confident that the team will be competitive in the AHA. RIT will be okay.

 

[RITFan67]

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I think team leadership by it's captains and co-captains on the ice and especially in the locker room along with solid coaching separates the top teams year after year from the one and done teams. You can't just lay it at the feet of the players and you can't lay it just at the feet of the coaches. I look forward to this team growing through this season and I know the coaching staff will make any necessary adjustments to keep this team motivated and performing as one cohesive unit and not just a handful of of individual contributors. I think we have some decent players and I am confident that the team will be competitive in the AHA. RIT will be okay.

Well said... and I agree!

 

[Ivan Lennon]

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Re grants in aid - In the case of SLU you dont have to imagine what it "would be like" once they were instituted - as they were some years back

Since inception of "scholarships" SLU has not reached the heights of 1988 w/ disputed loss on NCAA final - sans scholarships
2 of its All Americans (w/ a physician father) paid the full shot - room, board, tuition

Beyond "grandfathered" D3 schools w/ a D1 sport - e.g., Hopkins, Col College, CCT, SLU. RPI et al- no D3 school can award grants regardless of need
short of upgrading all teams to D1

I can't see RIT as willing to do this.

 

[RIT Winters]

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Kind of sad that RIT gets it's first non-loss of the season and everyone is too busy arguing about scholarships (again) to acknowledge it!

Colevecchia and Lynch are both off to hot starts, it's nice to see Lynch possibly aspiring to the potential many people once thought he had. If he keeps it up he could be the unexpected offensive catalyst we could use.....especially since our defense won't come around until after Christmas time, based on last season.

 

[MattS]

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Kind of sad that RIT gets it's first non-loss of the season and everyone is too busy arguing about scholarships (again) to acknowledge it!

I think it is an indictment on Wilson and some people here basically preaching that non-conference games "do not matter" or are of less importance. I think this makes people here are more apathetic about ties and losses against non-AHA opponents. Additionally I doubt too many people saw the game thus making it much more tough to comment intelligently on.

 

[dxk3355]

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I listened the 2nd game on the radio as well. RIT is doing the same thing they been doing for the last few years where they don't get into the game until late. Wilson and the Tigers need to get on the board early, if they played in the first period like they do in the third than they'd be at the 2010 team level again.

 

[MattS]

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I guess my real question is. Is RIT going to grow as a hockey program? I could have sworn going to the Frozen Four would have helped a lot with recruiting. Then, RIT announced a new ice arena which is being built at this very moment. I thought that would have helped with recruiting... Something isn't right. Something is not right at all.

I know I will get bashed again for this but what the heck....

I have been over the past couple of years disapointed with the talent level of the recruiting that has been done since the FF year. Obvisously RIT has some disadvantages (lack of scholies) that other programs do not face, but there are also some advantages too (fan support). If, the year after the FF run, Wilson or whomever is/was recruiting, cannot get at least slightly better recruits than before, something is/was wrong. Is the FF a magic wand that was going to get RIT NHL calibre recruits? No, but should it have helped to at least maintain their position at the top of the AHA? Yes.

I think that the talent level of the recruits coming in the next year or two will be very telling. If a boost in talent of the new recruits cannot be gained with the additional help of a brand new building then again it should be a red flag in that department. I will say that the boost in talent might take a year or two to be fully seen as said recruits develop from their game in the NCAA. I certainly do not expect new recruits to immediately be great but the potential should be evident.

I think what we have seen from Wilson is what we will get in the future from him. A clean program and a team that is academically acceptable (or better) which is something to be admired and not brushed aside. Based upon history, I think we can expect a team that will be at least semi-competative in the AHA year in and year out. My guess is that RIT under Wilson the program will probably be at the top 1/3 of the AHA in most years, make a AHA finals run every two or three seasons, and make the NCAA's about every 7-10 years. Personally I think better can and should be achieved, but it all comes down to if the administration is happy.