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Rep Retirement Lodge #154: Olympics

Rep Retirement Lodge #154: Olympics

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Good Morning Lodge.

Brenthoven said:
I just want my corn. It's delicious. Especially grilled, while on the cob.
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We had some that way last night. I even kept it light enough that JR didn't complain like the last time (last time I think some started popping, grill might have been a tich too hot that time). It was a super sweet variety of white/yellow mix from the farmers' market, really good one.

So Almsy, any opinion on sucralose (Splenda) where they swapped in a couple chlorines in the lab? Is it as safe as the sellers claim or as dangerous as the activists claim?

ETA: Jr's team follows Mavsy's team on the ice this afternoon rather than playing them as we did the first game of the last 2 tourneys.
 
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Forgot to mention that we got a call from Discover Card Fraud Prevention folks yesterday. Someone tried to charge about $5K in American Airlines tickets and $99 from Amazon. AA denied the purchase, but the Amazon one went through. Our cards are now deactivated until they send us new ones.
 
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20 year reunion tomorrow. This weekend could go anywhere between "Epically Awesome" to "JHTFC Burn The Planet Down And Kill Everyone". Anything and everything is in play this weekend.
 
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Patman said:
I saw a nice long presentation which said that "corn sugar" breaks down into things ending in "-hyde"... and that this is quite a bad thing.

And as an American I have a tremendous stake in corn... I want it cheap as possible to feed livestock.
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I want corn right where it is now. Expensive. Very expensive. These record high prices are perfect. Since we evaded the drought, we should have an average to above average yield, at record prices. This year's crop should bring in millions of $$.
 
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Almington said:
All sugars break down into aldehyde groups. That's just how the body metabolizes them.

Most HFCS is between 40% and 55% fructose with the remainder being glucose.

Table sugar (sucrose) is 50% fructose and 50% glucose (one molecule of each goes into a single molecule of sucrose)

Honey is about 50% fructose, 45% glucose, and 5% other sugars (some variability because honey is a natural product).

Thus, if you consume an equal mass of any of them your body will have to deal with nearly an identical ratio and amount of sugar. Because of this HFCS isn't the problem, consuming to much sugar (regardless of the form that sugar is in) is the real problem. HFCS has been the target because it is used in SO many things that have zero (or nearly zero) nutritional value and given the competing demands for corn in the marketplace.
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Exactly. Its a quantity problem, not a type of sugar problem. I've been saying this for years, but people think I'm crazy because corn sugar has been demonized for so many years.
 
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bigblue_dl said:
I want corn right where it is now. Expensive. Very expensive. These record high prices are perfect. Since we evaded the drought, we should have an average to above average yield, at record prices. This year's crop should bring in millions of $$.
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My .02 worth. Things on the ag side are getting crazy. Record crop prices (if not ruined by drought) and land values that are sky rocketing. I see trends that lead me and others to believe that there is a bubble growing and sooner or later it will pop and when it pops it's going to be bad. Really bad. My issue is that with crop insurance these days there is minimal risk to the the farmer in the event things go bad. With crop insurance farmers break even or in some cases come out ahead if mother nature wipes them out. If there is no risk then the farmer can take more risk (buy more land and plant more stuff) this combination will eventually lead to a bad outcome. History repeats itself but in the meantime make hay when the sun shines! ;):D
 
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gmann said:
My .02 worth. Things on the ag side are getting crazy. Record crop prices (if not ruined by drought) and land values that are sky rocketing. I see trends that lead me and others to believe that there is a bubble growing and sooner or later it will pop and when it pops it's going to be bad. Really bad. My issue is that with crop insurance these days there is minimal risk to the the farmer in the event things go bad. With crop insurance farmers break even or in some cases come out ahead if mother nature wipes them out. If there is no risk then the farmer can take more risk (buy more land and plant more stuff) this combination will eventually lead to a bad outcome. History repeats itself.
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The land prices are the only thing that I could see "bursting". As long as you're not overextended paying way too much for land, or most of your land is bought and paid for (the situation we have), that shouldn't hurt too much. There are some that would be screwed, though. As for the rest of the agriculture industry, I don't see how it can burst, people will always need food. Prices may fluctuate, but they have for the entire history of the world. I don't think anyone is expecting these high prices to last, the key is to take advantage of them while they're here, so if/when it gets tougher, you're better able to weather the storm. Bottom line is, as long as there are people that need to eat, smart farmers will be just fine.
 
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There was a farm bubble not that long ago. Then we had foreclosures and Farm Aid concerts and wailing and gnashing of teeth. Many farmers seemed to think "people always need food so prices will always be high.". They were wrong like home pwners who ended up upside down when their house value dropped. The key again is not overextend in a bubble. Lots of farmer bought more land and new equipment and ended up mortgaged to the hilt and it was all blamed on the big bad banks when the crash came.
 
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bigblue_dl said:
Bottom line is, as long as there are people that need to eat, smart farmers will be just fine.
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Smart and farmers. Two words you rarely see in the same sentence. :D :):p

Overall you are correct and spot on......as long as the banks are willing to play and don't take their ball and go home. (If and when the banks deem things too risky they will tighten up and that's when the shiat hits the fan)
 
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Hammer said:
20 year reunion tomorrow. This weekend could go anywhere between "Epically Awesome" to "JHTFC Burn The Planet Down And Kill Everyone". Anything and everything is in play this weekend.
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I'm betting you're going to have a pretty good time, but are going to want to take a few of the jerkwads from your class that have only gotten worse out back behind the softball field and beat them with a shovel.
 
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Almington said:
All sugars break down into aldehyde groups. That's just how the body metabolizes them.

Most HFCS is between 40% and 55% fructose with the remainder being glucose.

Table sugar (sucrose) is 50% fructose and 50% glucose (one molecule of each goes into a single molecule of sucrose)

Honey is about 50% fructose, 45% glucose, and 5% other sugars (some variability because honey is a natural product).

Thus, if you consume an equal mass of any of them your body will have to deal with nearly an identical ratio and amount of sugar. Because of this HFCS isn't the problem, consuming to much sugar (regardless of the form that sugar is in) is the real problem. HFCS has been the target because it is used in SO many things that have zero (or nearly zero) nutritional value and given the competing demands for corn in the marketplace.
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Thanks very much for the info, Almington. :cool:
 
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goldy_331 said:
There was a farm bubble not that long ago. Then we had foreclosures and Farm Aid concerts and wailing and gnashing of teeth. Many farmers seemed to think "people always need food so prices will always be high.". They were wrong like home pwners who ended up upside down when their house value dropped. The key again is not overextend in a bubble. Lots of farmer bought more land and new equipment and ended up mortgaged to the hilt and it was all blamed on the big bad banks when the crash came.
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Just because people always need to eat doesn't mean prices will always be high. Just like with homeowners, if you're smart about it, you'll be just fine.
 
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Yikes. My gf was just in a car accident (not driving). Sounds like she's ok, but the driver hit his head.
 
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Greetings from the beach on Cape Cod. I really miss the two week family vacations we used to take here. Perfect beach weather.
 
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goldy_331 said:
So Almsy, any opinion on sucralose (Splenda) where they swapped in a couple chlorines in the lab? Is it as safe as the sellers claim or as dangerous as the activists claim?
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Odds are that the truth about the danger falls somewhere between the two extremes.

Your body already handles a number of chlorinated compounds every day and provided that your consumption is low enough odds are that you will not see any adverse reactions. No new compound is without risk, and if you consume an excess amount of splenda, particularly over a multi-year period, the odds of having some adverse health effect increase significantly.

Personally, I try and avoid artificial sweeteners as much as possible, but I'm not at all concerned about the occasional or even chronic low level consumption of splenda (or any other artificial sweetener).

My rule of thumb is that if you wouldn't consume an equal amount of the full sugar version, you shouldn't consume that much of the artificially sweetened version either.
 
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Drink In My Hand coming on the playlist at 3:30 on a Friday afternoon has slaughtered my productivity for the rest of the day/week.
 
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