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Rep Retirement Lodge 136: Again?
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MinnesotaNorthStar
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bigblue_dl
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Re: Rep Retirement Lodge 136: Again?
I would guess you see the pavement buckling on older roads, that have been repaired, so there is extra material in the roadway, filling cracks, etc. that weren't considered during the original design, because they simply weren't there.
I would guess you see the pavement buckling on older roads, that have been repaired, so there is extra material in the roadway, filling cracks, etc. that weren't considered during the original design, because they simply weren't there.
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
Re: Rep Retirement Lodge 136: Again?
**** FINE EXPLANATION
The wife came home early and found her husband in their bedroom making love to a very attractive young woman.
And she was somewhat upset. 'You are a disrespectful pig!' she cried. 'How dare you do this to me -- a faithful wife, the mother of your children! I'm leaving you. I want a divorce right away!'
The husband replied, 'Hang on just a minute love so at least I can tell you what happened.' 'Fine, go ahead,' she sobbed,' but they'll be the last words you'll say to me!'
The husband began -- 'Well, I was getting into the car to drive home, and this young lady here asked me for a lift. She looked so down and out and defenseless that I took pity on her and let her into the car.
I noticed that she was very thin, not well dressed and very dirty. She told me she hadn't eaten for three days.
So, in my compassion, I brought her home and warmed up the enchiladas I made for you last night, the ones you wouldn't eat because you're afraid you'll put on weight. The poor thing devoured them in moments.
"Since she needed a good clean-up, I suggested a shower, and while she was doing that, I noticed her clothes were dirty and full of holes, so I threw them away. Then, as she needed clothes, I gave her the designer jeans that you’ve had for a few years, but don't wear because you say they're too tight.
I also gave her the underwear that was your anniversary present, which you don't wear because I don't have good taste.
I found the sexy blouse my sister gave you for Christmas that you don't wear just to annoy her, and I also donated those boots you bought at the expensive boutique and don't wear because someone at work has a pair the same.'
The husband took a quick breath and continued - 'She was so grateful for my understanding and help that as I walked her to the door, she turned to me with tears in her eyes and said,
'Please .... Do you have anything else that your wife doesn't use?
**** FINE EXPLANATION
The wife came home early and found her husband in their bedroom making love to a very attractive young woman.
And she was somewhat upset. 'You are a disrespectful pig!' she cried. 'How dare you do this to me -- a faithful wife, the mother of your children! I'm leaving you. I want a divorce right away!'
The husband replied, 'Hang on just a minute love so at least I can tell you what happened.' 'Fine, go ahead,' she sobbed,' but they'll be the last words you'll say to me!'
The husband began -- 'Well, I was getting into the car to drive home, and this young lady here asked me for a lift. She looked so down and out and defenseless that I took pity on her and let her into the car.
I noticed that she was very thin, not well dressed and very dirty. She told me she hadn't eaten for three days.
So, in my compassion, I brought her home and warmed up the enchiladas I made for you last night, the ones you wouldn't eat because you're afraid you'll put on weight. The poor thing devoured them in moments.
"Since she needed a good clean-up, I suggested a shower, and while she was doing that, I noticed her clothes were dirty and full of holes, so I threw them away. Then, as she needed clothes, I gave her the designer jeans that you’ve had for a few years, but don't wear because you say they're too tight.
I also gave her the underwear that was your anniversary present, which you don't wear because I don't have good taste.
I found the sexy blouse my sister gave you for Christmas that you don't wear just to annoy her, and I also donated those boots you bought at the expensive boutique and don't wear because someone at work has a pair the same.'
The husband took a quick breath and continued - 'She was so grateful for my understanding and help that as I walked her to the door, she turned to me with tears in her eyes and said,
'Please .... Do you have anything else that your wife doesn't use?
Painted_Bandit
beer
Flashy Man
Misfit Emeritus
Re: Rep Retirement Lodge 136: Again?
Also, the mix of an asphalt is based on the local historical weather. If the weather were to say hit extremes, the mix can fail.
Also, the mix of an asphalt is based on the local historical weather. If the weather were to say hit extremes, the mix can fail.
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bigblue_dl
Armed
Painted_Bandit
beer
Re: Rep Retirement Lodge 136: Again?
where's the safety factor?
I still say I could do a civils job
where's the safety factor?
I still say I could do a civils job
Flashy Man
Misfit Emeritus
Re: Rep Retirement Lodge 136: Again?
The problem with the materials is that you have to pick which design factor you need to stress most, you can never have the best of all worlds. In the north country you have lean towards freeze thaw resistance which leaves it more susceptible to high temperatures which are only experience a minute amount of times in a pavement's life.
A reference site. http://training.ce.washington.edu/wsdot/modules/05_mix_design/05-2_body.htm
The problem with the materials is that you have to pick which design factor you need to stress most, you can never have the best of all worlds. In the north country you have lean towards freeze thaw resistance which leaves it more susceptible to high temperatures which are only experience a minute amount of times in a pavement's life.
A reference site. http://training.ce.washington.edu/wsdot/modules/05_mix_design/05-2_body.htm
bigblue_dl
Armed
Re: Rep Retirement Lodge 136: Again?
Even with safety factors, say a certain mix will expand x% at a delta T of 50 degrees greater than some fixed reference temperature. That expansion, x% is accounted for by using expansion strips, gaps, etc. (I really don't know how exactly they do it). As the temperature varies by 130-140 degrees, like we can see in the upper midwest, those expansion areas get wider and fill up with sand and other sediment, potholes form, they are filled by a road crew. Any way you look at it, there is now more material, be it the sand or sediment or more asphalt, and less expansion space. After years of this thermal cycle, eventually you get the road buckling when the temperature is where thermal expansion would occur.
Even with safety factors, say a certain mix will expand x% at a delta T of 50 degrees greater than some fixed reference temperature. That expansion, x% is accounted for by using expansion strips, gaps, etc. (I really don't know how exactly they do it). As the temperature varies by 130-140 degrees, like we can see in the upper midwest, those expansion areas get wider and fill up with sand and other sediment, potholes form, they are filled by a road crew. Any way you look at it, there is now more material, be it the sand or sediment or more asphalt, and less expansion space. After years of this thermal cycle, eventually you get the road buckling when the temperature is where thermal expansion would occur.
bigblue_dl
Armed
Re: Rep Retirement Lodge 136: Again?
Flashy's explanation is probably more correct than mine, since he, you know, probably actually knows what he's talking about.
I just had a guess and it seemed to make sense logically.
Flashy's explanation is probably more correct than mine, since he, you know, probably actually knows what he's talking about.
I just had a guess and it seemed to make sense logically.
Re: Rep Retirement Lodge 136: Again?
No kidding. I make a post about boobs, and they want to talk concrete and asphalt.
No kidding. I make a post about boobs, and they want to talk concrete and asphalt.
Re: Rep Retirement Lodge 136: Again?
...and that's how you know they went to Tech
Hola lodge! long time no see! wedding planning takes up way too much free time!
...and that's how you know they went to Tech
Hola lodge! long time no see! wedding planning takes up way too much free time!
bigblue_dl
Armed
Re: Rep Retirement Lodge 136: Again?
We've seen boobs, whats the point of talking about them more on an internet message board? If I want boobs, I want to see them, not talk about them.
We've seen boobs, whats the point of talking about them more on an internet message board? If I want boobs, I want to see them, not talk about them.
aparch
Well-known member
Re: Rep Retirement Lodge 136: Again?
Flashy did a pretty good job of explaining it. The company I work for does QC/QA testing in Illinois on highway construction, and we also create the mix designs that some contractors use.
Many reasons why roads (including 18"+ thick PCC (Concrete) highways) fail include improper installation, poor maintenance, failing subgrade, poor materials used, etc. Concrete poured and set is going to have different strengths when done at 70deg versus 90deg temps.
Regarding cracks, dirt and sand isn't the problem. Water (or other liquids) that can get into cracks wreak havoc during freeze thaw cycles. Crappy material (best stone should be jagged) also contributes to quicker failure. Improper compaction (for HMA (Asphalt)) ie: too compacted or not enough also will cause failure. Soil conditions under the road can also degrade the strength of the highway
Next question to answer: how does it happen? QA can only monitor so much due to funding issues and some contractors will fudge the numbers to get what they want. If QA samples compare with QC, it's very tough for the State (or local highway agency) to prove contractor fraud.
By the way... Mmmmmm boobs.
Flashy did a pretty good job of explaining it. The company I work for does QC/QA testing in Illinois on highway construction, and we also create the mix designs that some contractors use.
Many reasons why roads (including 18"+ thick PCC (Concrete) highways) fail include improper installation, poor maintenance, failing subgrade, poor materials used, etc. Concrete poured and set is going to have different strengths when done at 70deg versus 90deg temps.
Regarding cracks, dirt and sand isn't the problem. Water (or other liquids) that can get into cracks wreak havoc during freeze thaw cycles. Crappy material (best stone should be jagged) also contributes to quicker failure. Improper compaction (for HMA (Asphalt)) ie: too compacted or not enough also will cause failure. Soil conditions under the road can also degrade the strength of the highway
Next question to answer: how does it happen? QA can only monitor so much due to funding issues and some contractors will fudge the numbers to get what they want. If QA samples compare with QC, it's very tough for the State (or local highway agency) to prove contractor fraud.
By the way... Mmmmmm boobs.
leswp1
New member
Re: Rep Retirement Lodge 136: Again?
Neither of these subjects is very exciting to me.
Neither of these subjects is very exciting to me.
nmupiccdiva
New member
Re: Rep Retirement Lodge 136: Again?
Eeeeexactly.
I was going to make fun of you for all that, and then I saw what you put at the bottom of that post.
'Evening, Lodge. My 6 hour day suddenly became a 9 hour day, including a 3 1/2 hour marketing strategy meeting and a photoshoot for the new running club's website.
Eeeeexactly.
I was going to make fun of you for all that, and then I saw what you put at the bottom of that post.
'Evening, Lodge. My 6 hour day suddenly became a 9 hour day, including a 3 1/2 hour marketing strategy meeting and a photoshoot for the new running club's website.
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
Re: Rep Retirement Lodge 136: Again?
I like boobies?
And butts
Legs
Lips
Oh
And boobs.
I like boobies?
And butts
Legs
Lips
Oh
And boobs.
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