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Red. Hot. Hockey. III. - BU vs. Cornell
- Thread starter Friend_of_BU_Hockey
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Re: Red. Hot. Hockey. III. - BU vs. Cornell
BU was the beneficiary of a goal being waived off? The devil you say?
I'll just leave this here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnibxyJAu8w
BU was the beneficiary of a goal being waived off? The devil you say?
I'll just leave this here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnibxyJAu8w
BUPhD
Active member
Ah...the play that created the thread that led to me joining and starting to post. Just to get that thread's count up.
defkit
New member
Re: Red. Hot. Hockey. III. - BU vs. Cornell
Ahhh yes.
Millan would have had to be Superman to stop #6 from pitchforking his arm and glove off the puck which he had covered up for a moment. Shouldn't have been a goal for that reason alone, so justice prevailed in my opinion.
Ahhh yes.
Millan would have had to be Superman to stop #6 from pitchforking his arm and glove off the puck which he had covered up for a moment. Shouldn't have been a goal for that reason alone, so justice prevailed in my opinion.
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
Re: Red. Hot. Hockey. III. - BU vs. Cornell
bu hasn't been to lynah since nov 2002. i really, really want to go (which means these stupid msg games are pizzing me off to no small degree!!!
)
[and bu got smoked that weekend... we need to go back and right that wrong
]
bu hasn't been to lynah since nov 2002. i really, really want to go (which means these stupid msg games are pizzing me off to no small degree!!!
)[and bu got smoked that weekend... we need to go back and right that wrong
]Re: Red. Hot. Hockey. III. - BU vs. Cornell
Highlights:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Rx8h5lSki0&feature=player_embedded
Gorgeous tip by Gaudet for the GWG.
Man, Cornell had A LOT of good scoring chances and made our D look foolish a bunch of times. Surprised they were only able to score once. Thank you Millan?
Highlights:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Rx8h5lSki0&feature=player_embedded
Gorgeous tip by Gaudet for the GWG.
Man, Cornell had A LOT of good scoring chances and made our D look foolish a bunch of times. Surprised they were only able to score once. Thank you Millan?
Re: Red. Hot. Hockey. III. - BU vs. Cornell
I just hope Cornell's coaching staff figures out a way to keep winning while suppressing Ferlin's stats a bit so we can hang onto him for 3+ years...
Just watched the highlights for the first time - I have to agree.
I just hope Cornell's coaching staff figures out a way to keep winning while suppressing Ferlin's stats a bit so we can hang onto him for 3+ years...
Re: Red. Hot. Hockey. III. - BU vs. Cornell
The soccer analogies are interesting. The reason I find them interesting is because soccer officials do not simultaneously call a penalty on a defending player and a diving/embellishment penalty on the offensive player. It's one or the other. Soccer, the NFL, the NBA do not have such calls. Only hockey chooses to live in such twilight.
PS, I don't believe that call had anything to do with the outcome of the game. This is just a side conversation.
The soccer analogies are interesting. The reason I find them interesting is because soccer officials do not simultaneously call a penalty on a defending player and a diving/embellishment penalty on the offensive player. It's one or the other. Soccer, the NFL, the NBA do not have such calls. Only hockey chooses to live in such twilight.
PS, I don't believe that call had anything to do with the outcome of the game. This is just a side conversation.
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buoldtimer
The social ramble ain't restful
Re: Red. Hot. Hockey. III. - BU vs. Cornell
That was a 2 game series. BU was beaten up on the scoreboard and on the ice. As I recall, Parker said he had a team that wasn't eager to leave the locker room for the second game, but that may be hearsay.
bu hasn't been to lynah since nov 2002. i really, really want to go (which means these stupid msg games are pizzing me off to no small degree!!!
[and bu got smoked that weekend... we need to go back and right that wrong
That was a 2 game series. BU was beaten up on the scoreboard and on the ice. As I recall, Parker said he had a team that wasn't eager to leave the locker room for the second game, but that may be hearsay.
Re: Red. Hot. Hockey. III. - BU vs. Cornell
You're kind of proving my point - diving creeps into the game if the refs don't have an option to call both fouls. In soccer, it's one or the other, so there is a significant potential reward for a player who embellishes what was otherwise marginal contact. If soccer refs had the option to call both as fouls, I would expect to see less diving in soccer (though obviously, they'd have to actually change the rule before we'd know for sure).
Friend_of_BU_Hockey
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Re: Red. Hot. Hockey. III. - BU vs. Cornell
Ferlin stood out in my eyes. Was impressed by his play @ RHH. His skill, size, skating, and north-south style of play fits very well w/ Schaefer's system (and eventually the B's if he develops and if Julien is still behind the bench). Wouldn't be surprised to see him make the World Jr. team this and/or next year. I expect the B's scouts to monitor his development closely.
I just hope Cornell's coaching staff figures out a way to keep winning while suppressing Ferlin's stats a bit so we can hang onto him for 3+ years...
Ferlin stood out in my eyes. Was impressed by his play @ RHH. His skill, size, skating, and north-south style of play fits very well w/ Schaefer's system (and eventually the B's if he develops and if Julien is still behind the bench). Wouldn't be surprised to see him make the World Jr. team this and/or next year. I expect the B's scouts to monitor his development closely.
Harry Cleverly
New member
Re: Red. Hot. Hockey. III. - BU vs. Cornell
I still hold that "embellishment" is a stupid penalty. (For the record, I have officiated hockey and soccer.)
It should be one or the other, but not both.
Embellishment forces the official to make a judgement on intent of the player being fouled, beyond the actual call.
If a player is brought down by a foul, it is a penalty whether the player goes down hard or goes down easy.
If the player goes down and it wasn't a foul, then it is a dive and that should be penalized.
An official should not have to make a judgement call on something in-between.
I still hold that "embellishment" is a stupid penalty. (For the record, I have officiated hockey and soccer.)
It should be one or the other, but not both.
Embellishment forces the official to make a judgement on intent of the player being fouled, beyond the actual call.
If a player is brought down by a foul, it is a penalty whether the player goes down hard or goes down easy.
If the player goes down and it wasn't a foul, then it is a dive and that should be penalized.
An official should not have to make a judgement call on something in-between.
Re: Red. Hot. Hockey. III. - BU vs. Cornell
Everything that occurs during a game has something to do with the outcome of the game, even penalties. What would a Hockey East official conclude if he saw a person get pushed off a stair, tumble to the ground, and then cry out in pain and writhe on the ground? Is a H.E. official (or any other zebra) so gifted that he can immediately tell if the guy on the ground is "embellishing" his fall to initiate a lawsuit, and the guy writhing on the ground is faking the pain he feels for the same reason? Wouldn't it be cool if convicted perpetrators of assault could counter-sue victims of assault for "embellishment?"
Everything that occurs during a game has something to do with the outcome of the game, even penalties. What would a Hockey East official conclude if he saw a person get pushed off a stair, tumble to the ground, and then cry out in pain and writhe on the ground? Is a H.E. official (or any other zebra) so gifted that he can immediately tell if the guy on the ground is "embellishing" his fall to initiate a lawsuit, and the guy writhing on the ground is faking the pain he feels for the same reason? Wouldn't it be cool if convicted perpetrators of assault could counter-sue victims of assault for "embellishment?"
Re: Red. Hot. Hockey. III. - BU vs. Cornell
Jeez, it took you long enough to get in this thread with that. No lie, as soon as they called it no goal I knew this would come up. What took you so long????
Jeez, it took you long enough to get in this thread with that. No lie, as soon as they called it no goal I knew this would come up. What took you so long????
sterlippo1
Well-known member
Re: Red. Hot. Hockey. III. - BU vs. Cornell
i had a problem figuring out which disallowed goal that helped BU would be brought up but i guess that one fits the bill.............that was a goal, this at MSG wasn't, of course IMO
i had a problem figuring out which disallowed goal that helped BU would be brought up
but i guess that one fits the bill.............that was a goal, this at MSG wasn't, of course IMORe: Red. Hot. Hockey. III. - BU vs. Cornell
Ref lost sight of the puck on both, and therefore both should have been blown dead.
Unlike UML, no one on Cornell hooked Kieran's arm away from the puck, and thus we can all agree no goal for Cornell, jabbing at the goalies arm once the puck is covered is key to any legal goal. Glad that is settled.
i had a problem figuring out which disallowed goal that helped BU would be brought up
Ref lost sight of the puck on both, and therefore both should have been blown dead.
Unlike UML, no one on Cornell hooked Kieran's arm away from the puck, and thus we can all agree no goal for Cornell, jabbing at the goalies arm once the puck is covered is key to any legal goal. Glad that is settled.