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Rampage in Colorado Movie theater.
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bronconick
Yep, still here
Re: Rampage in Colorado Movie theater.
http://www.jordanghawi.com/denver-theatre-shooting-jessica-ghawi/
Her brother's blog of his day. Room will get dusty.
One of the victims was up and coming hockey reporter Jessica Ghawi, who wrote as Jessica Redfield. Jessica was at the Eaton Centre in Toronto last month just moments before a gang banger opened fire in the food court.
http://www.jordanghawi.com/denver-theatre-shooting-jessica-ghawi/
Her brother's blog of his day. Room will get dusty.
Patman
Rodent of Unusual Size
Loughner was also protected by a local political class... Same thing with the UAH professor... While that won't always be the case this should be interesting to see if that is in play.
People like this tend to have some form of unchecked sociopathy.
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Not to mention banning the acquisitiion of new firearms is one thing. Confiscating the tens of millions of weapons already out there would be something else. And a bit of a probable cause nightmare. Andy Sipowitz would require lots of OT.
Uh... Why?
Not to mention banning the acquisitiion of new firearms is one thing. Confiscating the tens of millions of weapons already out there would be something else. And a bit of a probable cause nightmare. Andy Sipowitz would require lots of OT.
bronconick
Yep, still here
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The estimate was 192 million guns owned privately in 2004. Good luck with that.
The estimate was 192 million guns owned privately in 2004. Good luck with that.
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I guess I'm in the middle on guns. I don't own a gun and have no plans to acquire one. We have a 2nd Amendment. And the Supremes have ruled that it means individual Americans can own guns. And before they're even offered, I'm probably going to oppose any of the typical knee jerk legislative "solutions" offered in the wake of this event.
However, I sometimes think of my time in Tokyo (tough duty!) and the Draconian Japanese gun control laws. IIRC, gun owners there need to renew their registration of every weapon, every year. And they're required to bring the guns to the police station so the cops can compare serial numbers, etc. And if you can't produce a weapon authorized the year before, you better have the paperwork showing how you disposed of it, or you're looking at a stay in Otsu prison, eating fish heads and rice. It goes without saying the amount of gun crime in Japan is a tiny fraction of what it is here. Although the homogeneity of their society may be a bigger factor.
Most of our biggest cities have stringent gun control laws. I'm from Chicagoland, and they had a very tough law until it was overturned in court. Is anybody noticing the irony that in Chicago, as in many other big cities with tough gun control ordinances, the bodies are stacked on street corners?
When you move from the general "we need to do something, maybe a new law" to the specific of preventing someone like Holmes from acquiring weapons and carefully planning his massacre, you run slap into the question of whether any law or series of laws can stop a guy like that. And whether the loss of freedom suffered by 300 million Americans as a result is a fair trade. On the other hand, what are the legitimate uses for that 100 round drum magazine Holmes evidently had for his AR15?
I guess I'm in the middle on guns. I don't own a gun and have no plans to acquire one. We have a 2nd Amendment. And the Supremes have ruled that it means individual Americans can own guns. And before they're even offered, I'm probably going to oppose any of the typical knee jerk legislative "solutions" offered in the wake of this event.
However, I sometimes think of my time in Tokyo (tough duty!) and the Draconian Japanese gun control laws. IIRC, gun owners there need to renew their registration of every weapon, every year. And they're required to bring the guns to the police station so the cops can compare serial numbers, etc. And if you can't produce a weapon authorized the year before, you better have the paperwork showing how you disposed of it, or you're looking at a stay in Otsu prison, eating fish heads and rice. It goes without saying the amount of gun crime in Japan is a tiny fraction of what it is here. Although the homogeneity of their society may be a bigger factor.
Most of our biggest cities have stringent gun control laws. I'm from Chicagoland, and they had a very tough law until it was overturned in court. Is anybody noticing the irony that in Chicago, as in many other big cities with tough gun control ordinances, the bodies are stacked on street corners?
When you move from the general "we need to do something, maybe a new law" to the specific of preventing someone like Holmes from acquiring weapons and carefully planning his massacre, you run slap into the question of whether any law or series of laws can stop a guy like that. And whether the loss of freedom suffered by 300 million Americans as a result is a fair trade. On the other hand, what are the legitimate uses for that 100 round drum magazine Holmes evidently had for his AR15?
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solovsfett
Registered User
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my prayers go out to the victims and victims families. #@$#@^#^^ this ****es me off and saddens me beyond belief.
A couple of thoughts on the social and political side of this:
The Dark Knight Returns, The Killing Joke, The Long Halloween, etc. all GREAT Batman comic books, all 3 violent as hell and I've read them multiple times. ...Apocalypse Now (GREAT FILM) I saw w/my parents (hbo) when I was 14. When I was 15 I rented Clockwork Orange and was listening to Slayer...the problem w/connecting these types of acts to movies, books and/or music is that you're
A. you're re-assigning blame away from the perpetrator
B. you're (most likely) missing the key factors like, where the **** were his parents all his life? (reason for me mentioning my parents above, they knew everything I was watching and up to 14 had to approve ALL of it. they KNEW all of my records and listened to them all, especially during the PMRC years)
back to parenting...why didn't he get treated for a severe psychological disorder? I mean his Mom came out and said "you got the right guy" the ****? she had to know he was nuts!
C. taking the work out of it's context (c'mon, none of these writers are saying "go kill people" no matter how far you try and stretch it, it just ain't there)
also, this has nothing to do w/guns (I don't own one and see no reason for me ever to own one for myself, but feel it's VERY important we leave the 2nd amendment as is and continue to abide/honor the Right to Keep and Bear Arms) and everything to do with a person/and people (VT, Columbine, etc) who are psychologically ****ed up beyond belief. Movies don't form you, music doesn't form you...not in that manner. I mean if that were the case our National Anthem is all rockets and bombs, we'd all be bombing malls if there were that sort of cause and effect, n'est ce pas? I mean we hear the anthem 20-30-40 times per year?
as for reporters looking for a way to connect this guy to the tea party or to the occupy crowd, ...you have to be as mentally sick as the criminal to make that case attempting to score a political point in the aftermath of something like this
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my prayers go out to the victims and victims families. #@$#@^#^^ this ****es me off and saddens me beyond belief.
A couple of thoughts on the social and political side of this:
The Dark Knight Returns, The Killing Joke, The Long Halloween, etc. all GREAT Batman comic books, all 3 violent as hell and I've read them multiple times. ...Apocalypse Now (GREAT FILM) I saw w/my parents (hbo) when I was 14. When I was 15 I rented Clockwork Orange and was listening to Slayer...the problem w/connecting these types of acts to movies, books and/or music is that you're
A. you're re-assigning blame away from the perpetrator
B. you're (most likely) missing the key factors like, where the **** were his parents all his life? (reason for me mentioning my parents above, they knew everything I was watching and up to 14 had to approve ALL of it. they KNEW all of my records and listened to them all, especially during the PMRC years)
back to parenting...why didn't he get treated for a severe psychological disorder? I mean his Mom came out and said "you got the right guy" the ****? she had to know he was nuts!
C. taking the work out of it's context (c'mon, none of these writers are saying "go kill people" no matter how far you try and stretch it, it just ain't there)
also, this has nothing to do w/guns (I don't own one and see no reason for me ever to own one for myself, but feel it's VERY important we leave the 2nd amendment as is and continue to abide/honor the Right to Keep and Bear Arms) and everything to do with a person/and people (VT, Columbine, etc) who are psychologically ****ed up beyond belief. Movies don't form you, music doesn't form you...not in that manner. I mean if that were the case our National Anthem is all rockets and bombs, we'd all be bombing malls if there were that sort of cause and effect, n'est ce pas? I mean we hear the anthem 20-30-40 times per year?
as for reporters looking for a way to connect this guy to the tea party or to the occupy crowd, ...you have to be as mentally sick as the criminal to make that case attempting to score a political point in the aftermath of something like this
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When Terry Robiskie was an outstanding running back at LSU, he had fumblitis. The joke going around Baton Rouge was that Robiskie was so upset with his fumbling he tried to kill himself, but kept dropping the gun.
When Terry Robiskie was an outstanding running back at LSU, he had fumblitis. The joke going around Baton Rouge was that Robiskie was so upset with his fumbling he tried to kill himself, but kept dropping the gun.
Almington
Blood Boiling with Rage and Hate
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I don't think that is particularly draconian, but given the number of guns you'd need a nationwide system equivalent to the DMV of every state to administer it. It would be a bureaucratic nightmare and given the number of current unknown guns it wouldn't have any impact for years into the future.
No amount of gun control legislation (short of rounding up all the guns) or spending on law enforcement or mental health coverage is going to prevent something like this happening. There are realistic steps that can be taken that might reduce the damage that one lone shooter wants to do at random.
I don't think that is particularly draconian, but given the number of guns you'd need a nationwide system equivalent to the DMV of every state to administer it. It would be a bureaucratic nightmare and given the number of current unknown guns it wouldn't have any impact for years into the future.
No amount of gun control legislation (short of rounding up all the guns) or spending on law enforcement or mental health coverage is going to prevent something like this happening. There are realistic steps that can be taken that might reduce the damage that one lone shooter wants to do at random.
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Nanny Bloomberg jumped right in within hours of the massacre.
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Nanny Bloomberg jumped right in within hours of the massacre.
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solovsfett
Registered User
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I have no doubts he did. I haven't caught much news today or last night, very busy @ work. but I've heard the anecdotes about reporters seeking tea party or occupy affiliation and it sickens me almost as much as the crime itself sickens me. to be so beholden to a political belief that you cannot in a moment like this put it aside is revolting.
Nanny Bloomberg jumped right in within hours of the massacre.
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I have no doubts he did. I haven't caught much news today or last night, very busy @ work. but I've heard the anecdotes about reporters seeking tea party or occupy affiliation and it sickens me almost as much as the crime itself sickens me. to be so beholden to a political belief that you cannot in a moment like this put it aside is revolting.
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People with long enough memories will recall Bobby Kennedy was killed with a registered gun. Sirhan went mute after his capture. He was identified when the gun turned out to be registered to his brother.
Nanny Bloomberg jumped right in within hours of the massacre.
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People with long enough memories will recall Bobby Kennedy was killed with a registered gun. Sirhan went mute after his capture. He was identified when the gun turned out to be registered to his brother.
Hammer
We'll be back.
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Treated at a hospital and released, for the record.
Treated at a hospital and released, for the record.
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As another, far less relevant, aside, I's surely glad DirecTV has settled with Viacom. I surfed into Tosh just in time to hear a female teenager ask him how big his d*ck is.
As another, far less relevant, aside, I's surely glad DirecTV has settled with Viacom. I surfed into Tosh just in time to hear a female teenager ask him how big his d*ck is.
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P
Priceless
Guest
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According to the Aurora police chief, the gunman bought 6000 rounds of ammunition online.
According to the Aurora police chief, the gunman bought 6000 rounds of ammunition online.
Patman
Rodent of Unusual Size
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gotta be prepared for when the zombies start breeding.
gotta be prepared for when the zombies start breeding.