MarkEagleUSA
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Re: Quinnipiac Bobcats 09-10: Part II
Z, are you going to make it to the Bank this weekend?
Beat Yale!
Z, are you going to make it to the Bank this weekend?
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Quinnipiac Bobcats 09-10: Part II
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ZYanksRule
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Re: Quinnipiac Bobcats 09-10: Part II
I was hoping to, but am working all weekend.
Beat Yale!
Z, are you going to make it to the Bank this weekend?
I was hoping to, but am working all weekend.
starlessixisky
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Re: Quinnipiac Bobcats 09-10: Part II
and who has been saying this since the spiral?
and who has been saying this since the spiral?
QU_BOBCATS_10
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Re: Quinnipiac Bobcats 09-10: Part II
This is my first post here. I'm a senior at Quinnipiac University, and I've seen four years of ups and downs with the men's ice hockey team. I am in the group that believes that Rand Pecknold should lose his job at the end of the season.
Pecknold did a stellar job in the transition from Division-II to Division-I. He did a fine job when the team gained entry into the ECAC. But at some point, reputation and prior glories are overshadowed by current failures.
The team played out of their minds through the first few weeks of the 2009-10 season. They were explosively hot, and they beat some of the best teams in the nation, including a sweep at nationally-ranked Ohio State and a great comeback victory over #12 UMass. Then it all went to hell in a hurry.
I'm not saying Pecknold should lose his job for this season alone, although anyone could make a logical case for that. I'm saying that Pecknold should lose his job because for the last five seasons, the team has started hot, gone into a funk, and fallen apart towards the end of the season, when the games matter most.
2005-06
Team starts 8-2-0. Then from November 11 to January 14, the team goes on a 3-11-0 cold streak. The team is eliminated from the ECAC Quarterfinals.
2006-07
The team starts 8-4-4. Then from January 19 to February 24, the team goes on a 5-7-1 cold streak. The team is eliminated in the ECAC Championship, catching fire in the ECAC Playoffs.
2007-08
The team starts 14-5-3 and is ranked as high as 14th in the nation. Then from January 25 to March 1, the team goes on a 3-8-1 cold streak. The team is eliminated in the ECAC Quarterfinals, including a humiliating 11-0 loss at Harvard.
2008-09
The team starts 11-6-1. Then from January 31 to February 27, the team goes on a 1-6-1 cold streak. The team is eliminated in the ECAC Quarterfinals.
2009-10
The team starts 12-1-0 and is ranked as high as 4th in the nation. Then from December 4 to February 20, the team goes on a 3-14-2 cold streak, dropping from top-five national ranking to not even receiving votes within two months.
Pecknold oversaw each of those collapses. At some point, Jack McDonald and Bill Mecca will have to look past their personal relationship with Pecknold and acknowledge the business side of college hockey. People on this forum complain about fans leaving early and giving up hope, but it's not like the team has given the fan base any great inspiration lately. I can't blame the fans for bailing on a team that has so quickly and so suddenly fallen apart.
I don't know who the replacement should be. Ben Syer, perhaps? Who knows. All I know is that change has to happen from top to bottom with this team, and it has to start at the top.
Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner! Best post I've seen here in a while.
We clearly took a lot of people by surprise at the start of the season. I'd even go as far as saying a lot of teams probably played down to us. Once everyone else figured out what was working for us, they changed their game plans accordingly. Still, the bottom line is that in most of our losses, we were in those games but bad luck and some soft goals against killed us. I'm not sure you can fault anyone for that.
The only complaint I have with Rand is that he possibly mishandled the goalie situation immediately after the Yale loss. Then again, he knows a heck of a lot more about hockey than I do so I have to defer to his judgement.
This is my first post here. I'm a senior at Quinnipiac University, and I've seen four years of ups and downs with the men's ice hockey team. I am in the group that believes that Rand Pecknold should lose his job at the end of the season.
Pecknold did a stellar job in the transition from Division-II to Division-I. He did a fine job when the team gained entry into the ECAC. But at some point, reputation and prior glories are overshadowed by current failures.
The team played out of their minds through the first few weeks of the 2009-10 season. They were explosively hot, and they beat some of the best teams in the nation, including a sweep at nationally-ranked Ohio State and a great comeback victory over #12 UMass. Then it all went to hell in a hurry.
I'm not saying Pecknold should lose his job for this season alone, although anyone could make a logical case for that. I'm saying that Pecknold should lose his job because for the last five seasons, the team has started hot, gone into a funk, and fallen apart towards the end of the season, when the games matter most.
2005-06
Team starts 8-2-0. Then from November 11 to January 14, the team goes on a 3-11-0 cold streak. The team is eliminated from the ECAC Quarterfinals.
2006-07
The team starts 8-4-4. Then from January 19 to February 24, the team goes on a 5-7-1 cold streak. The team is eliminated in the ECAC Championship, catching fire in the ECAC Playoffs.
2007-08
The team starts 14-5-3 and is ranked as high as 14th in the nation. Then from January 25 to March 1, the team goes on a 3-8-1 cold streak. The team is eliminated in the ECAC Quarterfinals, including a humiliating 11-0 loss at Harvard.
2008-09
The team starts 11-6-1. Then from January 31 to February 27, the team goes on a 1-6-1 cold streak. The team is eliminated in the ECAC Quarterfinals.
2009-10
The team starts 12-1-0 and is ranked as high as 4th in the nation. Then from December 4 to February 20, the team goes on a 3-14-2 cold streak, dropping from top-five national ranking to not even receiving votes within two months.
Pecknold oversaw each of those collapses. At some point, Jack McDonald and Bill Mecca will have to look past their personal relationship with Pecknold and acknowledge the business side of college hockey. People on this forum complain about fans leaving early and giving up hope, but it's not like the team has given the fan base any great inspiration lately. I can't blame the fans for bailing on a team that has so quickly and so suddenly fallen apart.
I don't know who the replacement should be. Ben Syer, perhaps? Who knows. All I know is that change has to happen from top to bottom with this team, and it has to start at the top.
ZYanksRule
GO BOBCATS!!
Re: Quinnipiac Bobcats 09-10: Part II
Let's go year by year
'05-'06 - This team ridiculously outperformed expectations. You weren't here yet -- let me explain. Not only were we picked to finish last in the league, the talk around campus was "Let's hope to not go 0-22 in this great league."
Not only did they win games in the league, they went ON THE ROAD and won a playoff series. Not only that, they won the first game of ANOTHER PLAYOFF SERIES ON THE ROAD, and couldn't win a second game or else they would have advanced to the ECAC Final Four in the first year in the league. This team did not have the talent to compete at the level they needed to, won with heart, and went about as far as they could go.
'06-'07 - They were 18 minutes away from the NCAA Tournament. End of story.
'07-'08 - The 11-0 loss was bad, but how about coming back after that and winning the following night. If they had given up on the season, they would have followed that up with a 14-0 loss.
Oh, and they lost that season because the refs didn't see the puck go into the net halfway through the third period, would have tied the game. Instead, Harvard ended the season by getting a goal that went in off one of their kids' chests. Here's more on that game. It was a fluke loss, to say the least:
http://wqaqsports.wordpress.com/2008/03/17/controversy-shorthanded-goal-help-doom-bobcats/
Not trying to spread one ofmy stories arbitrarily, just trying to explain how weird a game it was. That team may have been a referee's call away from going to a second straight ECAC Final Four.
'08-'09 -The team severely lacked leadership. I guess you can blame Rand for that, but that senior class was one of the best in Quinnipiac history, in terms of the players. Hard to blame Rand, just didn't have kids that were good leaders. They sure could play, though.
'09-'10 - This team was picked by the media to finish 11th in the league. For a week, they were 4th in the nation. Now, they're playing like the 11th best team in the league. Freshmen are streaky, "gump" happens. Not Rand's fault -- this class is a great recruiting class, and they will do good things for this program.
Oh, and just for kicks, let's take a look at QU's record for these years:
'05-'06 - 20-18-1
'06-'07 - 21-14-5
'07-'08 - 20-15-4
'08-'09 - 18-18-3
'09-'10 - 15-15-2 with at least 4 games remaining
They also had a streak of 20 or more wins in 9 of 10 seasons. They were one of 3 or 4 teams in all of college hockey to do that.
The idea that Rand is even on the hot seat, much less should actually be fired is so beyond flawed, it isn't even funny.
Let's go year by year
'05-'06 - This team ridiculously outperformed expectations. You weren't here yet -- let me explain. Not only were we picked to finish last in the league, the talk around campus was "Let's hope to not go 0-22 in this great league."
Not only did they win games in the league, they went ON THE ROAD and won a playoff series. Not only that, they won the first game of ANOTHER PLAYOFF SERIES ON THE ROAD, and couldn't win a second game or else they would have advanced to the ECAC Final Four in the first year in the league. This team did not have the talent to compete at the level they needed to, won with heart, and went about as far as they could go.
'06-'07 - They were 18 minutes away from the NCAA Tournament. End of story.
'07-'08 - The 11-0 loss was bad, but how about coming back after that and winning the following night. If they had given up on the season, they would have followed that up with a 14-0 loss.
Oh, and they lost that season because the refs didn't see the puck go into the net halfway through the third period, would have tied the game. Instead, Harvard ended the season by getting a goal that went in off one of their kids' chests. Here's more on that game. It was a fluke loss, to say the least:
http://wqaqsports.wordpress.com/2008/03/17/controversy-shorthanded-goal-help-doom-bobcats/
Not trying to spread one ofmy stories arbitrarily, just trying to explain how weird a game it was. That team may have been a referee's call away from going to a second straight ECAC Final Four.
'08-'09 -The team severely lacked leadership. I guess you can blame Rand for that, but that senior class was one of the best in Quinnipiac history, in terms of the players. Hard to blame Rand, just didn't have kids that were good leaders. They sure could play, though.
'09-'10 - This team was picked by the media to finish 11th in the league. For a week, they were 4th in the nation. Now, they're playing like the 11th best team in the league. Freshmen are streaky, "gump" happens. Not Rand's fault -- this class is a great recruiting class, and they will do good things for this program.
Oh, and just for kicks, let's take a look at QU's record for these years:
'05-'06 - 20-18-1
'06-'07 - 21-14-5
'07-'08 - 20-15-4
'08-'09 - 18-18-3
'09-'10 - 15-15-2 with at least 4 games remaining
They also had a streak of 20 or more wins in 9 of 10 seasons. They were one of 3 or 4 teams in all of college hockey to do that.
The idea that Rand is even on the hot seat, much less should actually be fired is so beyond flawed, it isn't even funny.
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MinniQUFan
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Re: Quinnipiac Bobcats 09-10: Part II
There was educated hockey talk around campus? Negative.
There was educated hockey talk around campus? Negative.
MinniQUFan
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Re: Quinnipiac Bobcats 09-10: Part II
I'm not going down this road. Though I do feel quite prophetic. But your line in the sand here is a little overboard. The circumstance surrounding who and what QU hockey is today is because of Rand, and for this reason he's not going anywhere. But with that said, don't laugh, mock, or ridicule people out of the room (or the board) for arguing otherwise because frankly under different circumstances where a program was not undergoing a transitional period, a good argument could be made for why this coach could be let go.
Let's remember, people have brought up that Rand and Jack had 4 year plan for entering the ECAC... well it's starting to look like that four year plan has flopped and is going to take a lot longer than four years. (without a shining beacon of hope that things are about to rapidly improve on the horizon... I'm looking at you goalie situation to name thing) Again, I'm not criticizing or laying the hate down... I'm just saying, with every passing year, expectations mount for the program to go somewhere beyond streaking around the ECAC, yet little or no progress is made. In fact it'd be easier to find examples of regression.
When it comes down to it, Rand isn't going to lose his job, but don't ridicule the notion of the debate when unfortunately the discussion is viable.
I'm not going down this road. Though I do feel quite prophetic. But your line in the sand here is a little overboard. The circumstance surrounding who and what QU hockey is today is because of Rand, and for this reason he's not going anywhere. But with that said, don't laugh, mock, or ridicule people out of the room (or the board) for arguing otherwise because frankly under different circumstances where a program was not undergoing a transitional period, a good argument could be made for why this coach could be let go.
Let's remember, people have brought up that Rand and Jack had 4 year plan for entering the ECAC... well it's starting to look like that four year plan has flopped and is going to take a lot longer than four years. (without a shining beacon of hope that things are about to rapidly improve on the horizon... I'm looking at you goalie situation to name thing) Again, I'm not criticizing or laying the hate down... I'm just saying, with every passing year, expectations mount for the program to go somewhere beyond streaking around the ECAC, yet little or no progress is made. In fact it'd be easier to find examples of regression.
When it comes down to it, Rand isn't going to lose his job, but don't ridicule the notion of the debate when unfortunately the discussion is viable.
ZYanksRule
GO BOBCATS!!
Re: Quinnipiac Bobcats 09-10: Part II
It wasn't a four year plan, though. It was more like an 8-12 year plan, if I recall correctly.
They thought it would take 4 years to get out of the cellar -- out of the 9-12 seed areas. And maybe another 4 years to get to a point when we would contend for a first round bye.
It wasn't a four year plan, though. It was more like an 8-12 year plan, if I recall correctly.
They thought it would take 4 years to get out of the cellar -- out of the 9-12 seed areas. And maybe another 4 years to get to a point when we would contend for a first round bye.
starlessixisky
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Re: Quinnipiac Bobcats 09-10: Part II
I'm supporting ZYanks on this.
That year, many of our losses came by one goal LATE in the third period. i believe that year cornell one with 0.2 seconds left in the third!!!
That team played amazing against the big ECAC teams that year. Their record truly did not show their accomplishments (I did an entire powerpoint presentation for a class that year so don't even try to argue with me)
I'm supporting ZYanks on this.
That year, many of our losses came by one goal LATE in the third period. i believe that year cornell one with 0.2 seconds left in the third!!!
That team played amazing against the big ECAC teams that year. Their record truly did not show their accomplishments (I did an entire powerpoint presentation for a class that year so don't even try to argue with me
)starlessixisky
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I do agree with Minni. Everyone is entitled to argue their point, but I think at this stage, we are far past arguing this point any further.
New topic...
What's everyone thoughts for Friday night? I haven't kept up with Brown since we played them in December.
I do agree with Minni. Everyone is entitled to argue their point, but I think at this stage, we are far past arguing this point any further.
New topic...
What's everyone thoughts for Friday night? I haven't kept up with Brown since we played them in December.
MarkEagleUSA
C'mon Q!
Re: Quinnipiac Bobcats 09-10: Part II
If I'm not mistaken, 2 points gives us home ice. That being the case, I'd rather they happen on Friday so that Saturday is not a pressure cooker for the team.
Brown just feels like a dangerous team to me. I think they're beatable, but not if we don't bring our "A" game and a whole bunch of grit and determination. The absolute worst thing the guys can do is look past Brown to Saturday's game.
If I'm not mistaken, 2 points gives us home ice. That being the case, I'd rather they happen on Friday so that Saturday is not a pressure cooker for the team.
MinniQUFan
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That sounds a little revisionist. An 8 to 12 year plan is an exceedingly long time... and if that was the case, that's unacceptable. Yes, it takes years to build a national caliber program. No, it does not take a decade to build a ECAC championship winning team. That's absurd. Just in the time QU has been in the conference we've seen teams like Princeton go from the cellar to the NCAA tournament and back to the cellar.
Besides, the notion of building a program is based around recruiting... well as soon as QU made strides in the first few years in the conference, it accelerated any plan that was in place. Instead of it being "come to QU we play in the ECAC and have a brand new rink (and a 60% plus female population )", the pitch almost immediately became, "come to QU, we annually contend in the ECAC playoffs, just one piece away from the NCAAs, new barn, lots of girls".
The point is, any "plan" that is supposedly in place should have the program being able to recruit by boasting a competitive team (check), conference contender (check), one step away (was a check). Obviously, you'd love to add annual NCAA tournament team to the list of checks, but QU plays in the ECAC and no amount of 5 or 10 or 30 year plans is going to simply make a team an annual contender for the NCAA tournament. Simply the conference is not strong enough to bring in 3, 4, or 5 teams every year.
So any talk of "plans" needs to end for the simple fact that once you've accelerated a strategy, essentially you've wiped out the early and middle years of this plan, and should now be building towards bigger and better things. Instead the idea of a plan is made to look silly by the fact that QU has regressed almost every year since joining the ECAC... at least since the second year in conference. I guarantee regression was part of no strategy.
And last point of your argument. So you're saying within four years of this decade plan (I'm taking 10 years since you said 8 to 12 years), QU should be competing for a first round bye? So they should then be spending the next 6 years doing what? If it's to simply get to the NCAA tournament, there is a real problem if it takes 10 years. And even the biggest Bobcat fan needs to be realistic about greater aspirations as no current ECAC team has been to the NCAA championship game in 20 years since Colgate did it and no team has won since Harvard in 1989. Of course we can all hope, but lets stay realistic.
That sounds a little revisionist. An 8 to 12 year plan is an exceedingly long time... and if that was the case, that's unacceptable. Yes, it takes years to build a national caliber program. No, it does not take a decade to build a ECAC championship winning team. That's absurd. Just in the time QU has been in the conference we've seen teams like Princeton go from the cellar to the NCAA tournament and back to the cellar.
Besides, the notion of building a program is based around recruiting... well as soon as QU made strides in the first few years in the conference, it accelerated any plan that was in place. Instead of it being "come to QU we play in the ECAC and have a brand new rink (and a 60% plus female population
)", the pitch almost immediately became, "come to QU, we annually contend in the ECAC playoffs, just one piece away from the NCAAs, new barn, lots of girls". The point is, any "plan" that is supposedly in place should have the program being able to recruit by boasting a competitive team (check), conference contender (check), one step away (was a check). Obviously, you'd love to add annual NCAA tournament team to the list of checks, but QU plays in the ECAC and no amount of 5 or 10 or 30 year plans is going to simply make a team an annual contender for the NCAA tournament. Simply the conference is not strong enough to bring in 3, 4, or 5 teams every year.
So any talk of "plans" needs to end for the simple fact that once you've accelerated a strategy, essentially you've wiped out the early and middle years of this plan, and should now be building towards bigger and better things. Instead the idea of a plan is made to look silly by the fact that QU has regressed almost every year since joining the ECAC... at least since the second year in conference. I guarantee regression was part of no strategy.
And last point of your argument. So you're saying within four years of this decade plan (I'm taking 10 years since you said 8 to 12 years), QU should be competing for a first round bye? So they should then be spending the next 6 years doing what? If it's to simply get to the NCAA tournament, there is a real problem if it takes 10 years. And even the biggest Bobcat fan needs to be realistic about greater aspirations as no current ECAC team has been to the NCAA championship game in 20 years since Colgate did it and no team has won since Harvard in 1989. Of course we can all hope, but lets stay realistic.
MarkEagleUSA
C'mon Q!
Re: Quinnipiac Bobcats 09-10: Part II
I also firmly believe that this is not a topic that needs to be discussed until the season is over (yeah I realize I'm guilty too
). As fans we need to send out all the positive vibes we can going into what has become the most important weekend of the season thus far.
You should never, ever do that!
While this is true everyone needs to remember that any argument doesn't need to be confrontational. I mean, don't tell me I'm wrong, or a homer, or whatever else just because I don't agree with you. I'd like to think we're all better than that.
I like hearing other points of view on this but have also come to realize that regardless of what any of us say or feel, it means absolutely nothing in the end. We're anonymous fans on an internet message board. Nobody in any position to do anything is going to base a decision on what we think.
I also firmly believe that this is not a topic that needs to be discussed until the season is over (yeah I realize I'm guilty too
). As fans we need to send out all the positive vibes we can going into what has become the most important weekend of the season thus far. MinniQUFan
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Quick, hide this comment before one of the Ivey's (or RPI) sees it to make a joke about QU's academic standards matching up with the rest of the conference.
I'm supporting ZYanks on this.
That year, many of our losses came by one goal LATE in the third period. i believe that year cornell one with 0.2 seconds left in the third!!!
That team played amazing against the big ECAC teams that year. Their record truly did not show their accomplishments (I did an entire powerpoint presentation for a class that year so don't even try to argue with me
Quick, hide this comment before one of the Ivey's (or RPI) sees it to make a joke about QU's academic standards matching up with the rest of the conference.
Re: Quinnipiac Bobcats 09-10: Part II
QU's academic standards matchup very well with the ECAC compared to the rest of college hockey.
BTW, agree 100% with ZYanksRule. Talking about replacing Pecknold is laughable. The program continues to be on the rise, and just because the rise isn't as steep as it used to be, it's hard to deny that the man who took the program from a joke in D-II to an ever increasing amount of respectability, now in a major D-I conference isn't still having a positive impact on the team.
Quick, hide this comment before one of the Ivey's (or RPI) sees it to make a joke about QU's academic standards matching up with the rest of the conference.
QU's academic standards matchup very well with the ECAC compared to the rest of college hockey.
BTW, agree 100% with ZYanksRule. Talking about replacing Pecknold is laughable. The program continues to be on the rise, and just because the rise isn't as steep as it used to be, it's hard to deny that the man who took the program from a joke in D-II to an ever increasing amount of respectability, now in a major D-I conference isn't still having a positive impact on the team.
MinniQUFan
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Re: Quinnipiac Bobcats 09-10: Part II
Well as I said, I don't think Rand should be fired. My point was that you cant necessarily ridicule people who are getting restless. Trust me, I'm fine with how things are run. I do not follow one sports team, who does not disappoint on an annual basis. I for one am unfortunately satisfied with good regular seasons and conference or division championships. I know others laugh at that, but gotta keep my expectations in check.
If anything QU exists in a win now dominated sports region between the New York and New England professional sports teams. So it makes sense that there are fans who come to QU with the same mindset for their hockey team. I at least give Yanks credit for differentiating between his baseball team's approach and his college hockey teams... because God knows if the Yankees were in this position, we'd be hearing a different tune.
Well as I said, I don't think Rand should be fired. My point was that you cant necessarily ridicule people who are getting restless. Trust me, I'm fine with how things are run. I do not follow one sports team, who does not disappoint on an annual basis. I for one am unfortunately satisfied with good regular seasons and conference or division championships. I know others laugh at that, but gotta keep my expectations in check.
If anything QU exists in a win now dominated sports region between the New York and New England professional sports teams. So it makes sense that there are fans who come to QU with the same mindset for their hockey team. I at least give Yanks credit for differentiating between his baseball team's approach and his college hockey teams... because God knows if the Yankees were in this position, we'd be hearing a different tune.
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serious question, how is our program on the rise? I was thinking about it and the only thing i came up with is better non-conference opponents.
We have gotten worse each year since we have opened the Bank. Even if you don't want to say we have gotten worse, I would say that we are stagnate at best.
serious question, how is our program on the rise? I was thinking about it and the only thing i came up with is better non-conference opponents.
We have gotten worse each year since we have opened the Bank. Even if you don't want to say we have gotten worse, I would say that we are stagnate at best.
allnightwong
Quinnipiac '09 Grad School '11
Re: Quinnipiac Bobcats 09-10: Part II
Thank you! I can't and will not address this Rand talk anymore until our boys are done playing this season. It's repetitive and nothing we say or do will affect a thing. Rand's a great coach and will be with the team for years to come...end of story.
As for this weekend, you'll laugh when I say this and Mark touched on it already, but Friday's game is bigger than Saturday's. If we lose to Brown and it falls on the Yale game to clinch home ice, we are in big trouble. Yale will be playing for a number one seed and with the atmosphere around the arena buzzing they will want to play their "A" game. The Brown game is very winnable but the goaltending needs to get figured out. Last weekend was atrocious in net and in front of the net.
I hope many people turn out Friday as well and salute a wonderful senior class. These kids have helped continue to put Quinnipiac on the map. I've feared this season for four years after creating this alias because now anyone new to the program or the ECAC won't have a clue what my name means. But oh well, it's a great homage for a stellar player.
Having Wonger, JMB, Lamps, Mookie and Holt for five years has been a blessing. Aside from Lampe's occasional temper this group has exhibited great leadership and a fun, fast paced, exciting brand of hockey. They will be missed for sure, especially on the penalty kill.
ad. If Sami Liimatainen is also part of the senior festivities, a kudos also goes out to him and his hard work battling for playing time on previous teams with talented D-cores. I believe, he will redshirt and return next year similarly to what Sorteberg did but if not...it's been fun Sami.
Thank you! I can't and will not address this Rand talk anymore until our boys are done playing this season. It's repetitive and nothing we say or do will affect a thing. Rand's a great coach and will be with the team for years to come...end of story.
As for this weekend, you'll laugh when I say this and Mark touched on it already, but Friday's game is bigger than Saturday's. If we lose to Brown and it falls on the Yale game to clinch home ice, we are in big trouble. Yale will be playing for a number one seed and with the atmosphere around the arena buzzing they will want to play their "A" game. The Brown game is very winnable but the goaltending needs to get figured out. Last weekend was atrocious in net and in front of the net.
I hope many people turn out Friday as well and salute a wonderful senior class. These kids have helped continue to put Quinnipiac on the map. I've feared this season for four years after creating this alias because now anyone new to the program or the ECAC won't have a clue what my name means. But oh well, it's a great homage for a stellar player.
Having Wonger, JMB, Lamps, Mookie and Holt for five years has been a blessing. Aside from Lampe's occasional temper this group has exhibited great leadership and a fun, fast paced, exciting brand of hockey. They will be missed for sure, especially on the penalty kill.
ad. If Sami Liimatainen is also part of the senior festivities, a kudos also goes out to him and his hard work battling for playing time on previous teams with talented D-cores. I believe, he will redshirt and return next year similarly to what Sorteberg did but if not...it's been fun Sami.
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QU_BOBCATS_10
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Re: Quinnipiac Bobcats 09-10: Part II
You say "End of story" like there's no debate to it. By no means should Pecknold have lost his job or even been considered to be on the hot seat by falling shot of a NCAA Tournament bid. However, Quinnipiac lost the Championship game in the same way that their seasons end: unable to hold a lead and falling apart late.
See, this is the sort of revisionist history and somewhat homer bias that just drives me crazy. When Quinnipiac loses on a shot that goes off an opposing player's chest, or on a goal that is scored with 0.2 left, it's a "fluke". But when Quinnipiac wins on a fluky sort of ending, then it's "a hard-fought, well-earned victory". A win is a win and a loss is a loss, no matter how they come.
They sure could play? They finished .500 in a weak conference after starting 11-6-1. And yes, the lack of leadership comes from the top, in this case Pecknold.
You can't continually sit behind the "stuff happens" defense. Eventually you have to justify out shooting an opponent 108-53 (or whatever the Niagara weekend was) and finishing 0-1-1 to an awful Purple Eagles team.
It's things like this, and Mecca's "No chance, dude" quote that are going to come back to bite this team down the line. There are a lot of members of the senior class who are fed up with the team perennially under performing. McDonald and Mecca both have to at least listen to the arguments that are out there, because they are valid.
Pecknold was there to guide this team through transition years coming from Division-II and entering the ECAC. Now the team is a nationally-recognized team that simply can't make that extra (and necessary) leap. For the past five years, they've been sitting in neutral with the talent to push towards the top of the ECAC. How far does this team have to sink in order for McDonald and Mecca to at least acknowledge that change has to come? Because frankly, I don't see how it can get any lower after the "performances" this team has put up over the past two months.
And with the way they've been playing, the odds of them getting out of the First Round of the ECAC Playoffs? To quote Mecca, "No chance, dude".
You say "End of story" like there's no debate to it. By no means should Pecknold have lost his job or even been considered to be on the hot seat by falling shot of a NCAA Tournament bid. However, Quinnipiac lost the Championship game in the same way that their seasons end: unable to hold a lead and falling apart late.
See, this is the sort of revisionist history and somewhat homer bias that just drives me crazy. When Quinnipiac loses on a shot that goes off an opposing player's chest, or on a goal that is scored with 0.2 left, it's a "fluke". But when Quinnipiac wins on a fluky sort of ending, then it's "a hard-fought, well-earned victory". A win is a win and a loss is a loss, no matter how they come.
They sure could play? They finished .500 in a weak conference after starting 11-6-1. And yes, the lack of leadership comes from the top, in this case Pecknold.
You can't continually sit behind the "stuff happens" defense. Eventually you have to justify out shooting an opponent 108-53 (or whatever the Niagara weekend was) and finishing 0-1-1 to an awful Purple Eagles team.
It's things like this, and Mecca's "No chance, dude" quote that are going to come back to bite this team down the line. There are a lot of members of the senior class who are fed up with the team perennially under performing. McDonald and Mecca both have to at least listen to the arguments that are out there, because they are valid.
Pecknold was there to guide this team through transition years coming from Division-II and entering the ECAC. Now the team is a nationally-recognized team that simply can't make that extra (and necessary) leap. For the past five years, they've been sitting in neutral with the talent to push towards the top of the ECAC. How far does this team have to sink in order for McDonald and Mecca to at least acknowledge that change has to come? Because frankly, I don't see how it can get any lower after the "performances" this team has put up over the past two months.
And with the way they've been playing, the odds of them getting out of the First Round of the ECAC Playoffs? To quote Mecca, "No chance, dude".
Re: Quinnipiac Bobcats 09-10: Part II
Once again, Rand should not be fired this year. The "hot seat" is a silly phrase thats grossly overused.
What needs to be addressed is the poor midseason form that this team annually exhibits as Bobcats 10 illustrated. The blame goes to the players and coaches. If it were one or two years it would be one thing but its one of several things holding us back since we joined the ECAC.
Once again, Rand should not be fired this year. The "hot seat" is a silly phrase thats grossly overused.
What needs to be addressed is the poor midseason form that this team annually exhibits as Bobcats 10 illustrated. The blame goes to the players and coaches. If it were one or two years it would be one thing but its one of several things holding us back since we joined the ECAC.