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Providence College 2010-2011 - Things are looking up.

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No idea of what you are talking about I watched the entire game and HM2000 is spot on.....they were flat or is that how all ECAC teams look when they play quality clubs

Hokydad said:
Thats weird, I thought it was a good effort and by all accounts, it sure seemed that way. Looks like they ran into a hot goalie and a bad luck PP

Nate Owen: Almost five minutes in...Union controlling play so far and gets a faceoff after Reiter makes an easy glove save of Zajac's shot.

Friday March 25, 2011 3:11 Nate Owen
3:11 Brian Sullivan: I'm not sure UMD has registered five seconds of consecutive possession outside its own blue line yet.

Nate Owen: Some good looks for the Dutchman, drawing some "oohs" and "aahs" from the crowd. But UMD able to kill it off.
28 Jim Connelly: Still scoreless, though shots are 10-1 in favore of Union.
Brian Sullivan: Union has probably five or six quality scoring chances to UMD's two.
Jennie Sullivan: This last PP didn't look so great. But despite the lack of scoring on the previous three, I thought Union looked pretty good. Reiter robbed them of a couple of great opportunities
Brian Sullivan: Agreed: Reiter was huge in the opening five to eight minutes.
With 17 seconds to go, Union holds the edge in shots 12 to 6. Despite the score, Union looks strong in the early goings.
Unio

n owns the advantage in shots, 12-5 but the Bulldogs with a 1-0 lead thanks to Kyle Schmidt's tip at 14:38.
Jim Connelly:Union definitely carrying the play to start the 2nd.
Union isn't looking terribly crisp in the offensive zone, but they do look quick and hungry... Reiter deserves a lot of credit for the big O on the scoreboard right now
Union is out-shooting the Bulldogs 21-12.
Both. I don't think UMD was prepared for Union's speed, and the Dutch are clearly taking advantage of a game that's being called by the books
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Thats weird, I thought it was a good effort and by all accounts, it sure seemed that way. Looks like they ran into a hot goalie and a bad luck PP
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"Bad luck" is what you call a power-play that went 0-for-9? I haven't seen anything that anemic since Tim Army's team a couple of years ago.

Even Barry Melrose said Duluth "wanted it more" and played harder. Besides, every one of the blog posts you cite (as if that's supposed to prove anything) were from the first 15 minutes of the game...did you actually watch anything that happened after that?
 
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HockeyMan2000 said:
"Bad luck" is what you call a power-play that went 0-for-9? I haven't seen anything that anemic since Tim Army's team a couple of years ago.

Even Barry Melrose said Duluth "wanted it more" and played harder. Besides, every one of the blog posts you cite (as if that's supposed to prove anything) were from the first 15 minutes of the game...did you actually watch anything that happened after that?
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Just the blog. The goalie did play very well and that will deflate a team. UMD is a very good team and at one time was number one in the country.
 
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Well, HG can talk to York now as BC is done. :D:p
 
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Netman said:
Well, HG can talk to York now as BC is done. :D:p
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I think Jerry York would be a fine coach for PC. He has head coaching experience and seems to be a class guy who understands all aspects of the college game. The question is whether PC can afford him.
 
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Just wondering. Is there any correlation to the fact the HG is the AD at PC and nobody goes to games there and the HG is the chair of the NCAA haockey tournament selection committee and nobody is going to the games this weekend? Just wondering if he is using the same formula for success?
 
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The Freds said:
Just wondering. Is there any correlation to the fact the HG is the AD at PC and nobody goes to games there and the HG is the chair of the NCAA haockey tournament selection committee and nobody is going to the games this weekend? Just wondering if he is using the same formula for success?
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Dead on target. The regional round is so transparently not working, you wonder what he is looking at. Then again, there's a whole other thread I've ranted in about that :)
 
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Rick Bennett? That would be out of the box thinking. A PC alum who has never been a head coach and doesn't seem like a very exciting motivator. He would be the last coach in PC hockey history as they would have to shut down the program after five more playoff-less seasons.

If I were Dricsoll I'd interview the players who played for the candidates first--their view is so much more important than the guy's peers.

The guy Brown hired Brendan Whittet would be 100x better--he seems to have a pulse. I doubt he'd leave Brown but he might because Brown pays him very little. And despite the progress at Brown they get even fewer fans than Schneider -- it's the worst in all college hockey.

Was anyone else as un-sad as me to see BC get toasted last night? It's so awful when a group that thinks the frozen four is its birthright gets blown out of the building.
 
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czeckthebody said:
Rick Bennett? That would be out of the box thinking. A PC alum who has never been a head coach and doesn't seem like a very exciting motivator. He would be the last coach in PC hockey history as they would have to shut down the program after five more playoff-less seasons.

If I were Dricsoll I'd interview the players who played for the candidates first--their view is so much more important than the guy's peers.

The guy Brown hired Brendan Whittet would be 100x better--he seems to have a pulse. I doubt he'd leave Brown but he might because Brown pays him very little. And despite the progress at Brown they get even fewer fans than Schneider -- it's the worst in all college hockey.

Was anyone else as un-sad as me to see BC get toasted last night? It's so awful when a group that thinks the frozen four is its birthright gets blown out of the building.
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First off he is not an assistant, he is the associate head coach. Bennett should be their first choice. He is a tremendous recruiter, one of the top handfull in the country. Just look at what he has done at Union with zero scholarships and a tough place to get aid at.

Look at the players, leagues etc that he has fostered relationships with. He has a literal pipeline with the BCHL and USHL. Now with scholarships the process was just made, as you would say, 100 times better.

He was an All American, former NHL player and Hobey Baker finalist at PC. Loves the program and looks at it as his ultimate D 1 job abd he would be thrilled to stay there for years. A few of the others being mentioned simply look at it as a pit stop to use to get the BC or BU jobs. Is that what people want there? I would like to think not.

You might want to check with his current players to see if they find him a good fit. They are very loyal to him and very much like him, even though he is known as a task master and a hard a**.

He would turn PC around in a couple years. No question about it. Facts speak louder than words and the facts are very simple. He was the lead recruiter at UNION and has done an amazing job at getting very high end talent with zero scholarships. Just look on Heisenberg and see the kids he has lined up.

On the BC note, never happy to se a Hockey East team lose in the NCAA's. They will still go down as the best team success wise, in one of the most dominating programs in college hockey history.
 
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Great news if true. The PC fan base will love him and his passion. PC should want a guy who wants to be there and is not looking at it as a stepping stone to another position. RB is a great recruiter and is the best available canidate. An associate head coach who has cleary earned the opportunity. If not PC, somewhere else as he deserved it. He was a finalist at Brown.
 
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Hokydad said:
PC should want a guy who wants to be there and is not looking at it as a stepping stone to another position.
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PC just had a guy who fit exactly that description -- you know, the one you kept telling us was going to turn it around?

Unsurprisingly that post has vanished, probably because there wasn't an ounce of truth to it. Bennett might be one of several candidates but his timing made no sense, nor can I see how another guy with zero head coaching experience would be this program's "first" target. Especially not a guy who already was an assistant here for 5 years under a losing regime. I realize he wasn't calling all the shots but he was still here.

He was a finalist at Brown.
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If he wasn't good enough to be hired by Brown, again, why would he be PC's first choice as you keep harping on?

Again, Bennett has his share of fans, and I agree he would be on PC's radar. Still I can't see how he'd be their first primary choice. That would be a real mistake not to extend beyond your recent coaching circle given this program's dire lack of results.
 
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Hokydad said:
Great news if true. The PC fan base will love him and his passion. PC should want a guy who wants to be there and is not looking at it as a stepping stone to another position. RB is a great recruiter and is the best available canidate. An associate head coach who has cleary earned the opportunity. If not PC, somewhere else as he deserved it. He was a finalist at Brown.
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I think the PC fan base might love him and his passion. However, given the sorry state of the last 10 years, he will have to earn the love and passion of the fans who have been feeling a tad shortchanged. If he is the guy then time will tell. To whomever takes the job, I wish only success.
 
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The Freds said:
I think the PC fan base might love him and his passion. However, given the sorry state of the last 10 years, he will have to earn the love and passion of the fans who have been feeling a tad shortchanged. If he is the guy then time will tell. To whomever takes the job, I wish only success.
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HockeyMan2000 said:
PC just had a guy who fit exactly that description -- you know, the one you kept telling us was going to turn it around?

The difference is that one has dealt with college kids over the past decade and has proven he can A. Recruit them and B. deal with them and gain their respect. The other was in NHL for 14 years and had zero dealings with college kids

never said anyone would turn it around. Simply said why make it personal and rip coach and his kid and why not be positive. It is what it is but with a new chapter unfolding, it will hopefully pick up and get back to being a year to year top 6 program.

Remember, dennehy from MC had 1 previous head coaching job. At Fairfield and the program went 1-29 in his 1 year and folded out of hockey all together. He went to MC after being an assistant with a good recruiting track record/pipeline. If they and he can do it with MC's facilities, budeget, rep etc there is no question RB can do it and better at PC. For that matter, he did a better job at Union with zero money and a tough place to get kids into.
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I agree that coaching at the college level and the pro level are totally different and Army is a Pro coach......what has slowly changed my mind about Bennett is the fact that Union has no free rides and he still recruited decent players, no real great ones as they all took the scholarship routes so I am for giving him a shot here but I will have to wait a while so some scholarship money comes open to truely decide if it was the right decision......I do believe Army gave all he had to this program, he did produce fine young men with no real off ice problems and graduated them into society.... He was not the right man for the job on ice and I do wish him well in whatever he does in the future......I do hope he follows his son and the team and recieves the same respect all the players families get at PC, the last 6 years are gone and cannot be changed so lets forget them and move on
 
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Simply said why make it personal and rip coach and his kid and why not be positive.
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I never, ever once made any kind of personal attack on Tim Army or his son. You might be confusing my posts with someone else -- my criticism of Army was and always has been his performance as a hockey coach, based solely his record and statistics, which are black and white. For whatever reason you constantly take a recitation of his record as a personal affront.

I agree entirely with TheFreds. Whoever the coach is -- whether it's Bennett or anyone else -- they're going to have to earn the trust of the fanbase because we've been through the ringer the last two coaching tenures, especially a hire the last time that for most fans (not 91 but most others) looked like a good fit and did get a lot of people excited. That sort of anticipation is not likely to be there this time. Again, they're going to have to earn the respect and trust of fans, especially if it's another guy making his college head coaching debut in this position, which was exactly the case with both Army and Pooley.
 
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I never, ever once made any kind of personal attack on Tim Army or his son. You might be confusing my posts with someone else -- my criticism of Army was and always has been his performance as a hockey coach, based solely his record and statistics, which are black and white. For whatever reason you constantly take a recitation of his record as a personal affront.

I agree entirely with TheFreds. Whoever the coach is -- whether it's Bennett or anyone else -- they're going to have to earn the trust of the fanbase because we've been through the ringer the last two coaching tenures, especially a hire the last time that for most fans (not 91 but most others) looked like a good fit and did get a lot of people excited. That sort of anticipation is not likely to be there this time. Again, they're going to have to earn the respect and trust of fans, especially if it's another guy making his college head coaching debut in this position, which was exactly the case with both Army and Pooley.
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I agree
You didn't make it personal about his kid. Others though did and seems counter productive and wrong

Look at the stats and success of some of the players at Union
Just because other schools didn't give scholarship doesn't mean they were not elite
Union had a freshman who had 32 points and year before was 1st team all star in BCHL

He is the right guy for the job


Look at Wayne Simpson at Union and many others, their goalie is a soph and getting courted to leave by NHL

He also would want to stay and not use as and end to the means such as eventual BC or BU
 
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