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Providence College 2010-2011 - Things are looking up.

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From Today's Providence Journal:

That process, though, will be on hold for a couple weeks. Driscoll is chairman of the NCAA hockey selection committee and he will be at the national championships. He said several of the candidates are on list and will be taking part in the national championships, thus would not be available to come to campus until the tournament is completed.

The goal is to have a coach in place within a month, Driscoll said

That would suggest the list is comprised of several assistant coaches, including, I would guess, Rick Bennett. I just cannot imagine there would be many leaving a head coaching job coming of an NCAA tournament year.
 
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I agree with you Freds.

As Jim Donaldson mentioned in the Projo, Ed Cooley's hiring had as much to do with Mike Tranghese's involvement, and Driscoll does deserve credit for getting the input of others in this search. I also commend Driscoll for admitting his own mistakes with the last search and that it wouldn't happen again. Hopefully as much diligence will be taken with the hiring of the hockey coach.
 
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That would suggest the list is comprised of several assistant coaches, including, I would guess, Rick Bennett. I just cannot imagine there would be many leaving a head coaching job coming of an NCAA tournament year.

I wonder if one is the Notre Dame assistant;):D
 
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I told you, Jerry York is on his way

Actually if he is looking at assistants from NCAA teams their is one who has your junior experience. UNO's assistant Mike Hastings, he spent 15 years at Omaha so he is very tied to that area, has no eastern blood, but maybe a head job is a head job.
 
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So the bottom line is -- they will be hiring an assistant, most likely from a team in NCAA contention, and that it's probably going to be Rick Bennett.
 
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Story says he wants to talk to all those people as well as others, but right now he is committed to the tourney as part of his position on the selection committee.....I too think Bennett is his first choice (after Jerry York) but that is not what the Hockey guy said in the story
 
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That would suggest the list is comprised of several assistant coaches, including, I would guess, Rick Bennett. I just cannot imagine there would be many leaving a head coaching job coming of an NCAA tournament year.

I now believe that Rick Bennett is Driscoll's first, second and third choice. I will be stunned if anyone else is hired to replace Army. They've already spoken to David Quinn and if he's on your list of ten then I'd hope that he was #10 and you plan on going WAY UP from there.
I feel that things will move quickly on Coach Bennett once Union is eliminated. I've made my peace that Coach Bennett will be PC's next coach. I was hoping for someone without PC ties, from a consistently stronger program but that's not going to happen. Also, who really wants this job? I'm hard pressed to come up with a worse job to undertake at this time in D1 hockey.
Hopefully, Coach Bennett doesn't tell Driscoll to screw and hold out for a better situation.
 
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91 you hit the nail on the head.....hope he is the guy because as I look at who is out there and what each one offers Bennett is the top choice att and I hope he gets support from all connected to the program.......also his own choice of coaches not Armys leftovers unless he wants one
 
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I now believe that Rick Bennett is Driscoll's first, second and third choice. I will be stunned if anyone else is hired to replace Army. They've already spoken to David Quinn and if he's on your list of ten then I'd hope that he was #10 and you plan on going WAY UP from there. I feel that things will move quickly on Coach Bennett once Union is eliminated. I've made my peace that Coach Bennett will be PC's next coach. I was hoping for someone without PC ties, from a consistently stronger program but that's not going to happen. A

I'm with you 91, the things I was looking for in terms of them hiring a coach are not going to happen. I will "support" them in terms of rooting interest, sure, but hiring Bennett is not going to make me rush out and buy season tickets again. The prior two guys had big-time attributes and couldn't get the job done here...why is it going to be any different this time?
 
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Rick Bennett is regarded as one of the top recruiters in college hockey and one of the top evaluators of talent. How can you do what he has done at Union with zero scholarships and not be impressed. He cares about PC, where a few of the other names simply want the HC experience to move on to BU or BC head job when either of the two kings retire.
Bennett is regarded as a great recruiter, great judge of talent and someone who has ties to the program and would perceive it as a final destination. He is also a hard nosed coach who gets the best out of his players. He has great connections with the junior programs, both in the USHL and the BCHL. Head coaches out there will have no problem pushing kids to him because of what he has done with their players at Union.
It must be very difficult to get a high end kid to Union with zero scholarships, tough academics and a non destination resort spot. Are you telling me that if PC and Union swapped jerseys that you would not have been thrilled with this years results?
 
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Bob Driscoll introduced Ed Cooley as Providence College's new basketball coach Wednesday, and now will turn his attention to hockey.

The Providence College athletic director also needs to hire a new hockey coach to replace Tim Army, who resigned two weeks ago after six difficult seasons. Driscoll reported that he has compiled a list of 10 candidates. That list will be cut to four or five candidates who will be brought to campus for interviews.

That process, though, will be on hold for a couple weeks. Driscoll is chairman of the NCAA hockey selection committee and he will be at the national championships. He said several of the candidates are on list and will be taking part in the national championships, thus would not be available to come to campus until the tournament is completed.

The goal is to have a coach in place within a month, Driscoll said

A couple of comments on this and reaction:

1. Saying compiling a list of 10 candidates to me means Driscoll is still gauging interest and that with luck the list is whittled down to 4 or 5 solid guys.
2. Do wonder where the money to pay the coach is coming from since you seem to be paying Army and Davis, plus in several places the word is Cooley is getting 1.7 million a year (maybe some of it is camps, sneaker deals etc)
3. The way the whole thing is worded would ead me to believe what I've believed all along we aren't going to pay the next guy what the last guy got.
4. The way they approached the bball hire was to list out the skills they wanted and then match them vs potenial candidates.
5. I saw the press conference on tpe. To '91's point about Shanley. I thought it looked like Shanley had just met God.
6. I wonder if Driscoll will have any help. I would be surprised if the big 3 offered much with the way they failed to support Army with the internal infrastructure.
7. For basketball it sure sounded like winning was secondary to getting back the respect. They also sounded like they wanted to go back to basics. I would think those are 2 things they want from the hockey coach to. Though it will take more then naming a hockey coach to do that and since Driscoll has the integrity of a used car salesman I wouldn't believe a word he is saying about fixing up Schneider. As I said before the bulk of the "plan" is to help lacrosse, the parking situation, and get the softball field up to Henricken Field.
8. The skills Like returning bringing order to the program and making sure the PC bball players are truly student athletes are things they would want but Army did, he improved the academic tanding of the hockey team, he ran a tight enough ship he did not have the problems Pooley had. Remember Nate Myers had problems, the incidnet with the J & W students, Luke Irwin an Torey Gjada's problem, Jason Bloomburg etc etc back all the way to Russ Guzior his first season.
9. What seems to be needed is a coach like Cooley who will demand not only the best of of his players, but to demand their respect which I think both Army and Pooley never got. It means sticking up for them when they are right, being fair and even handed, and open to listen to them.
10. Like in basketball going back to basics I think hockey has to do the same thing. You are going to need to build this team from the goal out. Play a defensive game. And like Cooley suggested for the bballers to be the toughest team in the league. In some ways I think you have to revisit the Pooley stratergy and find ways to make it work that he could not.
11. Sorry HM hockey isn't basketball you don't have that pool to grab an experienced guy and you especially don't if you aren't going to bankroll it. There are some realities. I think as 91 pointed out they'll look at AHL guys like Quinn. If you think that way let us know who you think we could snag.
12. I'm also going to say unlike some of you since you are selling to the alumni/RI community I think just like Cooley they will go back to someone with roots here.
13. Since you basically have your next 2 teams in place with your scholarship money used up. I think you need someone resourceful and who knows how to get players in without the schoalrships to offer.
14. If I was going to quickly make a list of people I want to guage interest from before cutting the list to the finals here is my top 10 list. Bennett, Hynes, Quinn Kleinendorst (the last 3 th AHL guys with head jobs). I would have on the list the top guy at our Hockey East competitors though I think you won't get much of a reception. That would be Cavanagh, Bavis, and Lassonde. (2 of these beside Bennett fit into the NCAA theory) The only one who you might have a chance for would be Lassonde since he's a PC guy. Below I threw out Hastings name, but he has no Eastern roots. I'd add Jim Hughest whose been out of college too longfor my taste but is I believe Burke's Director of Player Development. Finally if I'm going cheap I'd look at Jerry Keefe. I don't think he has enough experience yet but he had the head job at Westfield State before moving up to D1 as Whittet's assistant the past 2 years. He also supposedly has strong ties to USA Hockey.
15. Everything you do again is contingent on the school matching their words with actions to help rebuild. You could bring in Jerry York and you would find he isn't the same coach as he is at BC since we are not BC.
16. One key thing though is you avoid the my players/Army's players. First year might easy you live with all of Army's players. You lose better then a quarter of the remaining players after next year (trouble is army converted their scholarships already)
17. The second key is since Army converted their scholarships already the only way to get new players is to do the same things and mortgage into the future and the track record of paartials PC has given out gets you exactly what that suggests. The next guy has to raise the level of skill from the class the following fall. At the same time not alienate the players who are here when those coming in push them down the depth chart.
18. Lastly what might be interesting is if Army now as a hockey parent shows up at the games. It is a sitaution I have not heard of before and that could be dicey. It could especially be an issue if it is Bennett.
 
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What seems to be needed is a coach like Cooley who will demand not only the best of of his players, but to demand their respect which I think both Army and Pooley never got. It means sticking up for them when they are right, being fair and even handed, and open to listen to them.

The personality required by this position can't be underestimated, it's true. I don't think Pooley had what it required to be a head coach, and from what I've heard about Army, the outcome was the same. This isn't the NHL, it's the college game, with a whole different set of parameters and needs that extend beyond just what happens on the ice. Hopefully the next coach will have the right tenor to relate to the players and help them develop, which I think has been missing here for a very long time.
 
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Can someone list just what players have what type of scholorship and what is available to the new guy to attract players

As best as I can figure
All 18 are allocated for '11-12
All 18 are allocated for '12-13
Assuming all of Army's recruits for this coming and the next year come in
I believe off the top of my head 13 of 18 are allocated and you assume you will need to replace Beaudry and the most you have is a 3 for 4 to do it.
In short if he adds to the incoming class the best he can offer is a 2 for 4 and you subtract one allocated 'ship for '13-14 and 14-15. I really think the game plan was to upgrade Golden and sit tight with the roster as you see it. If he brings in anyone in 12-13 most he can do is 3 for 4 , if he does that subtract 1 from 13-14 and allocation and one from 14-15. If he upgrading the roster he might be looking to go full boat so you figure he's leaving at least 2 open for that in 13-14
 
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Well, Bennett is available now !!!!!

Yeah, too bad for Union fans. The team was absolutely DOA. Other than the goaltender, the whole team looked like they didn't know what time the game was. Outhustled to every loose puck, flat as a pancake and completely lost.

More evidence though why some folks overrate ECAC teams, especially ones that schedule light and don't even play a Hockey East opponent all year.
 
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Cav I understand the first 3 lines the rest leaves me in the dark !!!!
As best as I can figure
All 18 are allocated for '11-12
All 18 are allocated for '12-13
Assuming all of Army's recruits for this coming and the next year come in
I believe off the top of my head 13 of 18 are allocated and you assume you will need to replace Beaudry and the most you have is a 3 for 4 to do it.
In short if he adds to the incoming class the best he can offer is a 2 for 4 and you subtract one allocated 'ship for '13-14 and 14-15. I really think the game plan was to upgrade Golden and sit tight with the roster as you see it. If he brings in anyone in 12-13 most he can do is 3 for 4 , if he does that subtract 1 from 13-14 and allocation and one from 14-15. If he upgrading the roster he might be looking to go full boat so you figure he's leaving at least 2 open for that in 13-14
 
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Yeah, too bad for Union fans. The team was absolutely DOA. Other than the goaltender, the whole team looked like they didn't know what time the game was. Outhustled to every loose puck, flat as a pancake and completely lost.

More evidence though why some folks overrate ECAC teams, especially ones that schedule light and don't even play a Hockey East opponent all year.



Thats weird, I thought it was a good effort and by all accounts, it sure seemed that way. Looks like they ran into a hot goalie and a bad luck PP

Nate Owen: Almost five minutes in...Union controlling play so far and gets a faceoff after Reiter makes an easy glove save of Zajac's shot.

Friday March 25, 2011 3:11 Nate Owen
3:11 Brian Sullivan: I'm not sure UMD has registered five seconds of consecutive possession outside its own blue line yet.

Nate Owen: Some good looks for the Dutchman, drawing some "oohs" and "aahs" from the crowd. But UMD able to kill it off.
28 Jim Connelly: Still scoreless, though shots are 10-1 in favore of Union.
Brian Sullivan: Union has probably five or six quality scoring chances to UMD's two.
Jennie Sullivan: This last PP didn't look so great. But despite the lack of scoring on the previous three, I thought Union looked pretty good. Reiter robbed them of a couple of great opportunities
Brian Sullivan: Agreed: Reiter was huge in the opening five to eight minutes.
With 17 seconds to go, Union holds the edge in shots 12 to 6. Despite the score, Union looks strong in the early goings.
Unio

n owns the advantage in shots, 12-5 but the Bulldogs with a 1-0 lead thanks to Kyle Schmidt's tip at 14:38.
Jim Connelly:Union definitely carrying the play to start the 2nd.
Union isn't looking terribly crisp in the offensive zone, but they do look quick and hungry... Reiter deserves a lot of credit for the big O on the scoreboard right now
Union is out-shooting the Bulldogs 21-12.
Both. I don't think UMD was prepared for Union's speed, and the Dutch are clearly taking advantage of a game that's being called by the books
 
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