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POTUS: It Can Happen Here Again
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Re: POTUS: It Can Happen Here Again
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/Acyh0HStm8">pic.twitter.com/Acyh0HStm8</a></p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1220536711031078913?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/Acyh0HStm8">pic.twitter.com/Acyh0HStm8</a></p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1220536711031078913?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
Those people need to making their calls to other offices.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
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He admitted the truth the other day. That he was going to cut SS and Medicare and Medicaid. Now he's walking it back.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Democrats are going to destroy your Social Security. I have totally left it alone, as promised, and will save it!</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1220453267509055490?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 23, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
He admitted the truth the other day. That he was going to cut SS and Medicare and Medicaid. Now he's walking it back.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Democrats are going to destroy your Social Security. I have totally left it alone, as promised, and will save it!</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1220453267509055490?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 23, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
leswp1
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He has a tweet for every need. The talking heads just quote the one that best fits the audience and tells them the others are a smoke screen- Not that any of them notice the discrepancy- they just see what they need to see
He has a tweet for every need. The talking heads just quote the one that best fits the audience and tells them the others are a smoke screen- Not that any of them notice the discrepancy- they just see what they need to see
aparch
Acetaminamerican
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Typical. He also says he won't cut pre-existing conditions, yet continues to fight in the courts to cut pre-existing conditions.
Typical. He also says he won't cut pre-existing conditions, yet continues to fight in the courts to cut pre-existing conditions.
ScoobyDoo
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And don't forget that have cut food stamps. They'll cut any program for the poor or middle class that they can get through. I sometimes wonder if McCain had voted with them on Obamacare and the dog had actually caught the car what we would have right now for health care.
And don't forget that have cut food stamps. They'll cut any program for the poor or middle class that they can get through. I sometimes wonder if McCain had voted with them on Obamacare and the dog had actually caught the car what we would have right now for health care.
rufus
rock and roller
Not walking it back. Just bullchitting his base.
He still has every intention of cutting it.
Slap Shot
I got nothing
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Those meanies at Fox are really going to set him off. Fox's Napolitano: There is 'ample and uncontradicted' evidence supporting Trump's removal from office
Those meanies at Fox are really going to set him off. Fox's Napolitano: There is 'ample and uncontradicted' evidence supporting Trump's removal from office
Slap Shot
I got nothing
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"If you have nothing to hide you shouldn't be scared of cops"
Senate GOP uses Trump's executive privilege threat as rallying cry against subpoenas
"If you have nothing to hide you shouldn't be scared of cops"
Senate GOP uses Trump's executive privilege threat as rallying cry against subpoenas
ScoobyDoo
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Rudy was on Fox and Friends this morning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCm9HkVaVYk
Of what I watched he indicated that he has proof that the Russians were not involved in 2016. It was all Ukraine. And it was all on behalf of the Democrats and Hillary Clinton. He's starting a podcast today to give out the evidence. He has tapes of all his interviews with his witnesses to this effect. He did not go searching for dirt on Joe Biden, it was handed to him. AND, the witnesses that he has are being BLOCKED by the Democrats I guess from coming to the United States to testify.
Rudy was on Fox and Friends this morning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCm9HkVaVYk
Of what I watched he indicated that he has proof that the Russians were not involved in 2016. It was all Ukraine. And it was all on behalf of the Democrats and Hillary Clinton. He's starting a podcast today to give out the evidence. He has tapes of all his interviews with his witnesses to this effect. He did not go searching for dirt on Joe Biden, it was handed to him. AND, the witnesses that he has are being BLOCKED by the Democrats I guess from coming to the United States to testify.
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There is a kernel of truth to that complaint, though. This case can basically be made, and comprehensively explained, in about 30 minutes.
The Ukraine was to receive money. Trump told his people to withhold it so that he could squeeze their President for a favor - namely, investigate the Bidens.
That's it. Throw in some comments like, "the American people are watching and will judge your vote" and "this type of abuse of power is precisely what the impeachment clause was intended to remedy," then sit down and stop talking.
Because of work I'm not watching any live broadcasts of the trial, but basically I see on the news and on the internet, each day, a handful of people who repeat, over and over, those three or four statements I just typed above. Jeebus, if I had to sit and listen to three days of that, I'd be napping too.
There is a kernel of truth to that complaint, though. This case can basically be made, and comprehensively explained, in about 30 minutes.
The Ukraine was to receive money. Trump told his people to withhold it so that he could squeeze their President for a favor - namely, investigate the Bidens.
That's it. Throw in some comments like, "the American people are watching and will judge your vote" and "this type of abuse of power is precisely what the impeachment clause was intended to remedy," then sit down and stop talking.
Because of work I'm not watching any live broadcasts of the trial, but basically I see on the news and on the internet, each day, a handful of people who repeat, over and over, those three or four statements I just typed above. Jeebus, if I had to sit and listen to three days of that, I'd be napping too.
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I think you're right. On the other hand, the defense presentation should be limited to a moment of silence.
I think you're right. On the other hand, the defense presentation should be limited to a moment of silence.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
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You do understand, though, that this is the way the right tries to keep its sheep from watching? This is them worrying that hearing the facts will counteract their programming and start them thinking, "huh... maybe these guys have been lying to me about other stuff too"?
Everything the WH and GOP and their enablers are surrogates have done on this has been to obfuscate, cover up, and lie. Dump is guilty, dead to rights, and they have no defense, so they (a) muddy the waters, (b) counter attack by projecting, (c) lie, and (d) yawn and try to get their penned up animals to doze off.
There is zero good faith on the right.
I hope you can at least admit this. I would expect you to counter by saying "There is zero good faith on the left, too." You would be wrong, but at least you would be honest that there is no defense in a democracy for what the GOP is doing.
You do understand, though, that this is the way the right tries to keep its sheep from watching? This is them worrying that hearing the facts will counteract their programming and start them thinking, "huh... maybe these guys have been lying to me about other stuff too"?
Everything the WH and GOP and their enablers are surrogates have done on this has been to obfuscate, cover up, and lie. Dump is guilty, dead to rights, and they have no defense, so they (a) muddy the waters, (b) counter attack by projecting, (c) lie, and (d) yawn and try to get their penned up animals to doze off.
There is zero good faith on the right.
I hope you can at least admit this. I would expect you to counter by saying "There is zero good faith on the left, too." You would be wrong, but at least you would be honest that there is no defense in a democracy for what the GOP is doing.
French Rage
NICKERSON HAS [CENSORED]
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They already tried that: https://thehill.com/homenews/house/...lence-on-house-floor-for-people-who-voted-for
They already tried that: https://thehill.com/homenews/house/...lence-on-house-floor-for-people-who-voted-for
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I don't think it has anything to do with "good faith," or bad faith for that matter.
The facts are the facts. Trump called up the President of Ukraine, and together with his people, basically said that we've got his money, and we'll send it right over, but first we want you to publicly investigate the Bidens.
Everybody has known that for months.
Of course Trump and his cronies are going to use the Shaggy defense.
But the point I was trying to make is that standing up on the floor of the Senate and repeating 79 times, "Trump demanded Ukraine investigate his primary political rival before he'd give them their money" is just going to cause large segments of the American public to say, "yeah, I heard that the first time you said it" and then switch channels.
I don't think it has anything to do with "good faith," or bad faith for that matter.
The facts are the facts. Trump called up the President of Ukraine, and together with his people, basically said that we've got his money, and we'll send it right over, but first we want you to publicly investigate the Bidens.
Everybody has known that for months.
Of course Trump and his cronies are going to use the Shaggy defense.
But the point I was trying to make is that standing up on the floor of the Senate and repeating 79 times, "Trump demanded Ukraine investigate his primary political rival before he'd give them their money" is just going to cause large segments of the American public to say, "yeah, I heard that the first time you said it" and then switch channels.
ScoobyDoo
NPC
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I thought the presentations should have been shorter.
I thought the presentations should have been shorter.
bronconick
Yep, still here
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