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POTUS 45.6 - Russia Is Just A Witch Hunt

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She lost because she has a ... what? Uh. Are you sure?

Interesting experiment done by NYU on gender reversal and the election. It's worth a read.

But how would their perceptions change, ... if the genders of the candidates were switched? She pictured an actress playing Trump, replicating his words, gestures, body language, and tone verbatim, while an actor took on Clinton’s role in the same way. What would the experiment reveal about male and female communication styles, and the differing standards by which we unconsciously judge them? ...

We both thought that the inversion would confirm our liberal assumption—that no one would have accepted Trump’s behavior from a woman, and that the male Clinton would seem like the much stronger candidate. But we kept checking in with each other and realized that this disruption—a major change in perception—was happening. ...

Many were shocked to find that they couldn’t seem to find in Jonathan Gordon what they had admired in Hillary Clinton—or that Brenda King’s clever tactics seemed to shine in moments where they’d remembered Donald Trump flailing or lashing out. For those Clinton voters trying to make sense of the loss, it was by turns bewildering and instructive, raising as many questions about gender performance and effects of sexism as it answered.

PS - I must've been in the audience ...

Another theme was about not liking either candidate—you know, “I wouldn’t vote for either one.”
 
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Huckabee tweeted this morning that each state needs its own healthcare and that a 50 state solution is a "50 state failure." So If we keep going down the states rights road on most issues, what exactly makes us different than the EU, which is seemingly a bad thing to conservatives?
 
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https://twitter.com/CitizenCohn/status/839884883015118849?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw



This is exactly how insurance works. Any kind of insurance.

All those premiums paid by people who don't have a car accident, or whose house doesn't burn down, pays to rebuild and repair those it does happen to.

I really didn't expect Paul Ryan to be that stupid. But apparently he is.

Duh. Insurance is basically socialism where someone makes money. Everyone puts in, you get something out when you need it.
 
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I really didn't expect Paul Ryan to be that stupid. But apparently he is.

Duh. Insurance is basically socialism where someone makes money. Everyone puts in, you get something out when you need it.

The only thing Paul Ryan understands is Ayn Rand
 
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I really didn't expect Paul Ryan to be that stupid. But apparently he is.

Duh. Insurance is basically socialism where someone makes money. Everyone puts in, you get something out when you need it.

Insurance is not socialism. Socialism is an involuntary system put in place by a government. Insurance is a voluntary activity to spread the risk.

Also, the ACA changed the rules around risk pools. Prior to it, a 23 year old person would have lower rates than a 65 year old person because that 23yo had a lower risk of needing to use his/her healthcare insurance. Those are risk pools are no more, so each person pays the same, shifting the costs of risk from the richer, older generations to the younger, poorer generations.
 
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Those are risk pools are no more, so each person pays the same, shifting the costs of risk from the richer, older generations to the younger, poorer generations.

This is somewhat misleading. What it does is even out payments over your whole life, so your expected value is to have net payments into the system when you're young and healthy and net withdrawals from the system when you're old and sick. It's not a payment from person x to person y, it's a payment from person x to person x later in life.
 
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This is somewhat misleading. What it does is even out payments over your whole life, so your expected value is to have net payments into the system when you're young and healthy and net withdrawals from the system when you're old and sick. It's not a payment from person x to person y, it's a payment from person x to person x later in life.

No, it's really not. There's no St. Clown Cash Fund at my insurance company, based upon my insurance premiums paid. There are other accounts, supplemental to my health insurance, that have my name on them, but a premium paid in today is either paid out to service providers or placed into retained earnings/excess contributions accounts.
 
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Insurance is not socialism. Socialism is an involuntary system put in place by a government. Insurance is a voluntary activity to spread the risk.

Also, the ACA changed the rules around risk pools. Prior to it, a 23 year old person would have lower rates than a 65 year old person because that 23yo had a lower risk of needing to use his/her healthcare insurance. Those are risk pools are no more, so each person pays the same, shifting the costs of risk from the richer, older generations to the younger, poorer generations.

It only depends on how you see socialism.

If you see it only as a system of government, you are right.

But you can also see it as a system where everyone contributes equally, and gets something out. Like our armed forces. Or insurance. Really- there are parts of our current government that are very socialism, but nobody is bothered by it- again, it's ok to have all of us contribute a lot to a system that kills a lot of people as it intent, but not one that has the intent to save lives. Both are there to save American lives.

None the less, the concept is that everyone contributes X amount, and only a few get anything near it back. Which is just socialism but our current system is where you can make a lot of money doing that.

On the note about voluntary insurance- again, why, as a society, do we think that only the ones with means should get coverage? And why should that industry be such a massive profit center when they actually do so very little in contribution to society? If EVERYONE paid in, and no profit was taken, there would be a LOT more money to pay for healthcare. Just like our military. :)
 
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Ryan is right

If one wrecks their car often they pay more insurance than safe drivers.

If one makes claims on their home owners the same happens in comparison to one who does not with premiums.

But with the health stuff you pay more if you make more, not if you are sickly as an "insurance" normally works.

Mookie has gone over this enough. This need to be called "coverage" or "security". Just like we have pro choice to call ourselves instead of pro-death (anti of pro-life).

Let's not make it insurance. It is social security. A well. Intended ponzi scheme. Same for health.

Ryan et al should be trying to control costs now. Lawsuit reform. Eliminate all those needless tests. Getting costs of drugs down.
 
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No, it's really not. There's no St. Clown Cash Fund at my insurance company, based upon my insurance premiums paid. There are other accounts, supplemental to my health insurance, that have my name on them, but a premium paid in today is either paid out to service providers or placed into retained earnings/excess contributions accounts.

I've got news for you, kid. There's no St. Clown Social Security Fund, either. Yes, they'll send you a statement in paper, but when it comes time for you to get your SS check that comes from taxing some 20-something.

From the perspective of how the money is actually handled, they are identical cases.
 
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I've got news for you, kid. There's no St. Clown Social Security Fund, either. Yes, they'll send you a statement in paper, but when it comes time for you to get your SS check that comes from taxing some 20-something.

From the perspective of how the money is actually handled, they are identical cases.

the retained earnings was cute :D
 
Insurance is not socialism. Socialism is an involuntary system put in place by a government. Insurance is a voluntary activity to spread the risk.

Also, the ACA changed the rules around risk pools. Prior to it, a 23 year old person would have lower rates than a 65 year old person because that 23yo had a lower risk of needing to use his/her healthcare insurance. Those are risk pools are no more, so each person pays the same, shifting the costs of risk from the richer, older generations to the younger, poorer generations.

Seriously, you've never before heard the phrase "socialize the risk" in an insurance context?
 
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