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POTUS 45:50: Crooked Hillary Clinton. The Real Collusion!!!!!!!

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Re: POTUS 45:50: Crooked Hillary Clinton. The Real Collusion!!!!!!!

Exactly. Anyone that thinks otherwise should see what they've accomplished in the UAE the last 20 years alone.

some people need authority. absolute rule works.

why just look at the difference in iraq :)
 
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And who says they won't?

Version 1.0 is never the complete answer- it's the start. So the current Green New Deal is a start. Where we go from here needs to be worked out. It sounds really good on paper, but there are people out there who will point out the holes that can be filled, and others will have ideas that make the proposals even more effective. That is the point of having hearings.
 
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So. Sh*ting on the Green New Deal for its flaws without giving a chance to discuss its merits while simultaneously handing NASA an ultimatum of putting a man back on the moon by 2024 or else the program goes bye-bye (with barely any additional funding being given to the program) are perfectly fine actions?

GND *is* a Moonshot. And Pence's ultimatum is idiotic. Boeing and SpaceX have had five years to design/build/fly a crew capsule and of them, SpaceX has the only test flight between them. Sure we could dust off the Apollo blueprints, but people seem to forget that the Apollo program was already pushing past designs and was already rolling before Kennedy made his speech. Four Mercury flights (two orbital flights) were already made by Kennedy's speech, Gemini was ready to roll; the "new nine" astronauts were announced a week after Kennedy's speech.

I have no idea where Pence, or this administration, expect NASA to put a man back on the moon, because they cant just borrow an LEM and CM from the Smithsonian, grab the Saturn V laying on its side in Huntsville and take a weekend excursion like it's as easy as renting a car for a road trip to Cleveland. There are ZERO heavy lift rockets capable of a moonshot currently.

Setting the moonshot goal again is fine, the ultimatum is what I have a problem with.

(This may be better suited to carry on in the Science thread.)
 
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They hate science. It’s pure and simple. They are evil.
 
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Call me crazy, but I think Boeing has much bigger issues at the moment than worrying about a gubmint request to build a new spacecraft...
 
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Barbara bush book says she was no longer a republican and blamed her heart attack on trump.

I give it four hours before he’s degrading her on Twitter
 
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Just watched kind of a sad PBS video covering the "red paradox" in Louisiana. Second poorest state in the union, almost all of the state budget comes from the US government. There's rampant pollution all over the place.

Yet they blame the US government for many things. Some even challenge that the pollution is causing problems. They just want the jobs.

Nobody has noticed that the petroleum industry is one of the most profitable ones in the world. They've got enough money to pay billions of dollars in fines if they make a mistake. And these same company jobs are so bad that Louisiana is one of the poorest states in the country. Nobody minds that the pollution has killed many plants and animals around- and that cancer is all around the country ("there have been studies" one said). They think liberals need to back off... They will get healthcare if they really want it, don't force them- ignoring the tiny fact that most of them qualify for benefits under the ACA.

It's hard to feel sorry for people who just seem to want to be abused by corporations.

Then I started a small movie about "the death of Seattle" which starts out blaming the city government for not allowing police to clean up homeless areas. I browsed through the comments and saw much blame on democrats and socialists and the anti-fata. I could not watch it anymore. Nobody seems to consider what to do with all of these homeless people when you round them up. Even worse, nobody has even considered the cause of the massive homeless in Seattle- which is a problem in many areas where large and profitable corporations move in, hugely increase the housing costs, forcing people out on the streets. Quick to want to enforce laws, but not ever looking deeper into the problem. We see the exact same thing going on at the border, BTW, where thousands of people come to the US, and just turn themselves in. Everyone just wants to lock them up, take their kids, and send them back- not once ever asking why people knowingly come here in the first place. Or how we react to terrorists- we want to kill them all, not thinking that doing that will likely generate more hate as opposed to actually understanding why people don't like the West so much.

This country has some real challenges when it comes to where we are going.

The Democrats have an almost impossible task in convincing these people to sit back and think.
 
Re: POTUS 45:50: Crooked Hillary Clinton. The Real Collusion!!!!!!!

Just watched kind of a sad PBS video covering the "red paradox" in Louisiana. Second poorest state in the union, almost all of the state budget comes from the US government. There's rampant pollution all over the place.

Yet they blame the US government for many things. Some even challenge that the pollution is causing problems. They just want the jobs.

Nobody has noticed that the petroleum industry is one of the most profitable ones in the world. They've got enough money to pay billions of dollars in fines if they make a mistake. And these same company jobs are so bad that Louisiana is one of the poorest states in the country. Nobody minds that the pollution has killed many plants and animals around- and that cancer is all around the country ("there have been studies" one said). They think liberals need to back off... They will get healthcare if they really want it, don't force them- ignoring the tiny fact that most of them qualify for benefits under the ACA.

It's hard to feel sorry for people who just seem to want to be abused by corporations.

Then I started a small movie about "the death of Seattle" which starts out blaming the city government for not allowing police to clean up homeless areas. I browsed through the comments and saw much blame on democrats and socialists and the anti-fata. I could not watch it anymore. Nobody seems to consider what to do with all of these homeless people when you round them up. Even worse, nobody has even considered the cause of the massive homeless in Seattle- which is a problem in many areas where large and profitable corporations move in, hugely increase the housing costs, forcing people out on the streets. Quick to want to enforce laws, but not ever looking deeper into the problem. We see the exact same thing going on at the border, BTW, where thousands of people come to the US, and just turn themselves in. Everyone just wants to lock them up, take their kids, and send them back- not once ever asking why people knowingly come here in the first place. Or how we react to terrorists- we want to kill them all, not thinking that doing that will likely generate more hate as opposed to actually understanding why people don't like the West so much.

This country has some real challenges when it comes to where we are going.

The Democrats have an almost impossible task in convincing these people to sit back and think.

Funny. Brought this issue up a while ago and was vilified for it. Be curious to see if you get any traction.
 
Just watched kind of a sad PBS video covering the "red paradox" in Louisiana. Second poorest state in the union, almost all of the state budget comes from the US government. There's rampant pollution all over the place.

Yet they blame the US government for many things. Some even challenge that the pollution is causing problems. They just want the jobs.

Nobody has noticed that the petroleum industry is one of the most profitable ones in the world. They've got enough money to pay billions of dollars in fines if they make a mistake. And these same company jobs are so bad that Louisiana is one of the poorest states in the country. Nobody minds that the pollution has killed many plants and animals around- and that cancer is all around the country ("there have been studies" one said). They think liberals need to back off... They will get healthcare if they really want it, don't force them- ignoring the tiny fact that most of them qualify for benefits under the ACA.

It's hard to feel sorry for people who just seem to want to be abused by corporations.

Then I started a small movie about "the death of Seattle" which starts out blaming the city government for not allowing police to clean up homeless areas. I browsed through the comments and saw much blame on democrats and socialists and the anti-fata. I could not watch it anymore. Nobody seems to consider what to do with all of these homeless people when you round them up. Even worse, nobody has even considered the cause of the massive homeless in Seattle- which is a problem in many areas where large and profitable corporations move in, hugely increase the housing costs, forcing people out on the streets. Quick to want to enforce laws, but not ever looking deeper into the problem. We see the exact same thing going on at the border, BTW, where thousands of people come to the US, and just turn themselves in. Everyone just wants to lock them up, take their kids, and send them back- not once ever asking why people knowingly come here in the first place. Or how we react to terrorists- we want to kill them all, not thinking that doing that will likely generate more hate as opposed to actually understanding why people don't like the West so much.

This country has some real challenges when it comes to where we are going.

The Democrats have an almost impossible task in convincing these people to sit back and think.

A lot of the zoning laws and health & safety regulations around housing are a huge burden on poor people. I understand why they have them and am not arguing they should all be abandoned.
 
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A lot of the zoning laws and health & safety regulations around housing are a huge burden on poor people. I understand why they have them and am not arguing they should all be abandoned.

You read that and that's the response you came up with? Seriously?
 
Re: POTUS 45:50: Crooked Hillary Clinton. The Real Collusion!!!!!!!

Barbara bush book says she was no longer a republican and blamed her heart attack on trump.

I give it four hours before he’s degrading her on Twitter

"WEAK Barbara Bush, matriarch of the Bush family, STILL not over the fact that I beat her son in the Republican primary! Hope she gets over it! God bless!"
 
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A lot of the zoning laws and health & safety regulations around housing are a huge burden on poor people. I understand why they have them and am not arguing they should all be abandoned.

How does that change the tiny problem that many times corporations move in, hire a lot of high paid people, and all of a sudden housing prices are so high, few can afford them?

And why do constantly put so much burden on the poor? They can't afford to do anything about it. People like you blame them for a lot of things that are very much out of their control.
 
How does that change the tiny problem that many times corporations move in, hire a lot of high paid people, and all of a sudden housing prices are so high, few can afford them?

And why do constantly put so much burden on the poor? They can't afford to do anything about it. People like you blame them for a lot of things that are very much out of their control.

I literally did the complete opposite.
 
Re: POTUS 45:50: Crooked Hillary Clinton. The Real Collusion!!!!!!!

Funny. Brought this issue up a while ago and was vilified for it. Be curious to see if you get any traction.

I doubt it. But I just wanted to point that out. Maybe I send another note to AOC so that she can prepare to work with them.
 
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I literally did the complete opposite.

As long as you can sleep with yourself, keep thinking that you don't victim blame all the time. When you get to the pearly gates, I'm sure you will be talked to.
 
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How does that change the tiny problem that many times corporations move in, hire a lot of high paid people, and all of a sudden housing prices are so high, few can afford them?

And why do constantly put so much burden on the poor? They can't afford to do anything about it. People like you blame them for a lot of things that are very much out of their control.

There are easy fixes to those problems and the environmental problems. But, we don't have the Government anymore to do it. Regulations are just white men laws meant to be broken and given slaps on the wrist when they're broken.
 
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In response to the issues in Seattle, yes. It’s a classic supply and demand problem. All of the various regulations limit supply which forces more people on the street.

So you know nothing about the issue? Next time just say that instead of spouting off and sounding like a moron it saves time.
 
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And these same company jobs are so bad that Louisiana is one of the poorest states in the country. Nobody minds that the pollution has killed many plants and animals around- and that cancer is all around the country ("there have been studies" one said). They think liberals need to back off... They will get healthcare if they really want it, don't force them- ignoring the tiny fact that most of them qualify for benefits under the ACA.

It's hard to feel sorry for people who just seem to want to be abused by corporations.

Sure. Let them continue to eat fried chicken and drink Coca Cola by the gallon. There's no saving such Cleetuses.
 
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