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POTUS 45.32: QAnon Will Help Show the Truth

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aparch said:
http://projects.thestar.com/donald-trump-fact-check/

If you can't find one lie in his 1486* verified to be false statements tracked since January 20, 2017, then, bless your heart.



*1486 as of the last update April 23rd, 2018.
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Kepler already answered this question. I'm honestly trying to figure out what anyone's agenda on this forum would be to ask that question over and over again. It's a debate style that doesn't belong here. For the most part the reason this forum is fun is because people usually peddle in facts and not outright untruths. When someone is proven wrong factually they usually move on to something else. I know I've been proven wrong a number of times and I moved on. When it's an opinion I can understand revisiting it over and over again. But, when it's a cold stone fact there shouldn't be more debate.

So, what is his agenda?
 
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I hit, "view post" for the first time in forever and was immediately reminded why. It's delicious that one of the most dishonest posters in the history of the internet can't accept we are seeing the same behavior from POTUS. But to be clear:

If Trump is a serial liar, why call this a list of “false claims,” not lies? The answer is that we can’t be sure that each and every one was intentional. In some cases, he may have been confused or ignorant. What we know, objectively, is that he was not telling the truth.
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FlagDUDE08 said:
Opening this site, I see they can't call them lies in the first paragraph. They admit they aren't lies. So I ask again, where has he lied?
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Apparently you missed this sentence: "In some cases, he may have been confused or ignorant."

From Merriam Webster:
Definition of lie - intransitive verb
1 : to make an untrue statement with intent to deceive
2 : to create a false or misleading impression


So the Toronto Star cannot say with certainty that every case is an outright lie.

Again, if you *CANNOT* find a single lie within that list...
 
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aparch said:
Apparently you missed this sentence: "In some cases, he may have been confused or ignorant."

From Merriam Webster:
Definition of lie - intransitive verb
1 : to make an untrue statement with intent to deceive
2 : to create a false or misleading impression


So the Toronto Star cannot say with certainty that every case is an outright lie.

Again, if you *CANNOT* find a single lie within that list...
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Maybe that's the point. It's like George Costanza.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn_PSJsl0LQ
 
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French Rage said:
OK, it's Wednesday, does Dennis Miller have his insults ready?
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Saw somewhere (maybe here?) recently a quote that said the last time Dennis Miller drew a crowd he was feeding squirrels in the park. I will never be able to hear that guy's name without thinking about that ever again. :D
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Since every statement the President makes that is made public involves at least two people I don't see your point.
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pretty sure homer's point was someone needs to hear and believe it.

could be wrong there though.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Kepler already answered this question. I'm honestly trying to figure out what anyone's agenda on this forum would be to ask that question over and over again. It's a debate style that doesn't belong here. For the most part the reason this forum is fun is because people usually peddle in facts and not outright untruths. When someone is proven wrong factually they usually move on to something else. I know I've been proven wrong a number of times and I moved on. When it's an opinion I can understand revisiting it over and over again. But, when it's a cold stone fact there shouldn't be more debate.

So, what is his agenda?
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In my opinion, here are the possibilities for Flag's behavior over the last several years:

1. He's trolling us and has been all along. If this is the case, bravo. With very few exceptions (Sandy Hook) I have never doubted he is being sincere. Trolls thrive on attention and he gets tons here so Mission Accomplished.

2. He's wittingly denying to wear us down. Call this the Sarah Huckabee Sanders Gambit. She knows when she's lying but she, following in her boss's footsteps, has decided that in this environment if one lies flatly and without ever giving any ground people will be convinced, or at least fatigued, and the lie will be allowed to stand.

3. He's unwitting but he's a one-off, or at least a rare case: somebody who is simply so gullible that he swallows everything that passes through his media feeding tube.

4. He's typical of a new creature: the post-factual person. This is someone for whom fact value literally has no meaning. "True" is simply what the leader says. This behavior is usually associated with protracted and severe conditioning. It's possible that the Echo Chamber has actually induced this behavior in large masses of its followers, essentially creating the largest mass cult in American history.

Note that in all four cases it's pointless to engage with him. I would simply respond when he lies by stating "that's a lie," preferably with a link debunking whatever his nonsense of the day is, and leave it at that. Unlike Dump, Flag has no power except what we give him. Without our responses, he is impotent.
 
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French Rage said:
By proving the importance of the 8th/9th Commandment, Trump is bringing all of us closer to God, and therefore is the truest most Christian President we ever had.
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To be fair, the commandment is false witness against thy brother. There's nothing in the rules about lying in favor of somebody, especially somebody so amazingly healthy believe me.
 
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Kepler said:
Note that in all four cases it's pointless to engage with him. I would simply respond when he lies by stating "that's a lie," preferably with a link debunking whatever his nonsense of the day is, and leave it at that. Unlike Dump, Flag has no power except what we give him. Without our responses, he is impotent.
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And yet, several people still refuse to ignore him because they want to know what he is saying. Reading and responding keeps him going, just stop. (And thanks in advance for the neg rep I'm sure is headed my way snowflake Flaggy).
 
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jerphisch said:
And yet, several people still refuse to ignore him because they want to know what he is saying. Reading and responding keeps him going, just stop. (And thanks in advance for the neg rep I'm sure is headed my way snowflake Flaggy).
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OK, I'm in. I won't put him back on Ignore (I did an Ignore amnesty a little while ago) but I'll simply respond to him with facts and not play to his red pill guff.
 
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Huh. I'm sure this is completely unrelated to Trump and is just completely coincidence.
Ukraine, Seeking U.S. Missiles, Halted Cooperation With Mueller Investigation
The cases are just too sensitive for a government deeply reliant on United States financial and military aid, and keenly aware of Mr. Trump’s distaste for the investigation by the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, into possible collusion between Russia and his campaign, some lawmakers say.

The decision to halt the investigations by an anticorruption prosecutor was handed down at a delicate moment for Ukraine, as the Trump administration was finalizing plans to sell the country sophisticated anti-tank missiles, called Javelins.
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