rufus
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Re: POTUS 45.3 - Bowling Green Massacre Memorial Thread
Got plenty of money to pay for tattoos, though.
Got plenty of money to pay for tattoos, though.
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POTUS 45.3 - Bowling Green Massacre Memorial Thread
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FlagDUDE08
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Re: POTUS 45.3 - Bowling Green Massacre Memorial Thread
I grew up in a Title I school (at least for the majority of the years) and turned out just fine. It's all what you make of it.
I grew up in a Title I school (at least for the majority of the years) and turned out just fine. It's all what you make of it.
Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
White and had money though. It's like playing a game of Trivial Pursuit and you started with 3 pieces and your classmates had 0.
St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
Re: POTUS 45.3 - Bowling Green Massacre Memorial Thread
Socioeconomic factors play a bigger role than anything else in whether a child is likely to do well in school. The better the home situation, the more emphasis the parents place on getting a good education for their children. Those parents understand that an education is the most likely tool available to the child improving its future. Poorer families either don't have that ambition for their children because they don't understand it, or they simply can't afford to think about the long-term implications of a solid education because of more immediate needs of the family.
Socioeconomic factors play a bigger role than anything else in whether a child is likely to do well in school. The better the home situation, the more emphasis the parents place on getting a good education for their children. Those parents understand that an education is the most likely tool available to the child improving its future. Poorer families either don't have that ambition for their children because they don't understand it, or they simply can't afford to think about the long-term implications of a solid education because of more immediate needs of the family.
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Deutsche Gopher Fan
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This. I know affirmative action seems wrong to a lot of people. But if I'm hiring for a job and I have two candidates who seem qualified, and one came from the best prep schools out east while the other came from inner city Detroit, I'd give a serious look to the inner city kid, who wasn't handed the best schools and prep that money could buy. That kid had to work extremely hard to climb up.
My example works for college admissions also.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: POTUS 45.3 - Bowling Green Massacre Memorial Thread
From experience the thing white and/or middle class kids don't get is they think you're saying they didn't work hard. Take it from me, you can be ALL CONSUMING to get into your school and be white and upper middle class, and then again ALL CONSUMING in college to get your GPA and move on to grad school. I worked my as-s off and chose to forgo a lot of short term fun for long term achievement. I could not have worked harder.
But that doesn't blind me to the fact that me, starting in the projects, with a skin color unpopular that season, had I worked just as hard, would in all likelihood have fallen far short.
The great mental deficiency of America is the belief that achievement and effort (and thus, deservingness) correlate highly. In reality, they do correlate -- you can see that whenever two kids start from the same situation -- but not highly. People think the coefficient is a .8 and it's really a .2. And our entire culture is built on that illusion, so any time anyone posts any evidence to the contrary the culture as a whole has a conniption fit and doubles down on the myth.
From experience the thing white and/or middle class kids don't get is they think you're saying they didn't work hard. Take it from me, you can be ALL CONSUMING to get into your school and be white and upper middle class, and then again ALL CONSUMING in college to get your GPA and move on to grad school. I worked my as-s off and chose to forgo a lot of short term fun for long term achievement. I could not have worked harder.
But that doesn't blind me to the fact that me, starting in the projects, with a skin color unpopular that season, had I worked just as hard, would in all likelihood have fallen far short.
The great mental deficiency of America is the belief that achievement and effort (and thus, deservingness) correlate highly. In reality, they do correlate -- you can see that whenever two kids start from the same situation -- but not highly. People think the coefficient is a .8 and it's really a .2. And our entire culture is built on that illusion, so any time anyone posts any evidence to the contrary the culture as a whole has a conniption fit and doubles down on the myth.
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Kepler
Si certus es dubita
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I agree. I mean anyway because I hate prep school kids -- f-ck them -- but I agree even for upright and moral middle class kids vs poor kids.
If I'm hiring and my candidates are the ghetto whiz kid and a younger version of me, I'm hiring the ghetto kid, and not just because I know I'd sniff the whiteout.
Though I have an issue with racial affirmative action because too often it's just benefitting well off black kids. If Flag's kid and Malia Obama are in the same ballpark for a job, I'm hiring Flag's kid. Affirmative action should be economic, but we can't do that because it would be admitting the US treats the poor like sh-t and OH NOES TEH SOCIALIZM!!!!
I agree. I mean anyway because I hate prep school kids -- f-ck them -- but I agree even for upright and moral middle class kids vs poor kids.
If I'm hiring and my candidates are the ghetto whiz kid and a younger version of me, I'm hiring the ghetto kid, and not just because I know I'd sniff the whiteout.
Though I have an issue with racial affirmative action because too often it's just benefitting well off black kids. If Flag's kid and Malia Obama are in the same ballpark for a job, I'm hiring Flag's kid. Affirmative action should be economic, but we can't do that because it would be admitting the US treats the poor like sh-t and OH NOES TEH SOCIALIZM!!!!
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The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
Re: POTUS 45.3 - Bowling Green Massacre Memorial Thread
Whatever BH.
Right but this isnt CNN doing it it is a random post on an obscure message board. Settle down Beavis
Whatever BH.
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
Re: POTUS 45.3 - Bowling Green Massacre Memorial Thread
Yup. But the finest schools in the world can't make a kid want to learn.
And I have to say it: Most everything in the USA is outside 495. Get out once in a while. Diversity: embrace it.
You're almost as bad as the particular type of Minnesotans that think there's nothing outside the 494/694 loop. Take that, Handy!
Yup. But the finest schools in the world can't make a kid want to learn.
And I have to say it: Most everything in the USA is outside 495. Get out once in a while. Diversity: embrace it.
You're almost as bad as the particular type of Minnesotans that think there's nothing outside the 494/694 loop. Take that, Handy!
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The Sicatoka
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Re: POTUS 45.3 - Bowling Green Massacre Memorial Thread
You're almost saying the most important teacher might be ... the parents.
You're almost saying the most important teacher might be ... the parents.
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
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Spicer is Not Good With the Internet
We need this number...and we need to soundboard the hell out of it!
Spicer is Not Good With the Internet
We need this number...and we need to soundboard the hell out of it!
rufus
rock and roller
Re: POTUS 45.3 - Bowling Green Massacre Memorial Thread
If only we could stop those moochers from abusing and cheating of the social safety net.
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/real-time/Havertown-podiatrist-Stephen-Monaco-sentenced-8-years-health-care-fraud.html
If only we could stop those moochers from abusing and cheating of the social safety net.
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/real-time/Havertown-podiatrist-Stephen-Monaco-sentenced-8-years-health-care-fraud.html
St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
Re: POTUS 45.3 - Bowling Green Massacre Memorial Thread
The parents set the expectations and guidance, but very few of them would make good teachers for what a student studies in class. A child born to parents who made a loose meat sandwich use a hotdog bun, and then splayed out the meat in two different ways, saying that their daughter's vagina (sic) resembled the neater of the two examples would not make for good teachers - for multiple reasons.
The parents set the expectations and guidance, but very few of them would make good teachers for what a student studies in class. A child born to parents who made a loose meat sandwich use a hotdog bun, and then splayed out the meat in two different ways, saying that their daughter's vagina (sic) resembled the neater of the two examples would not make for good teachers - for multiple reasons.
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Hey! I took handy to grand forks onceYup. But the finest schools in the world can't make a kid want to learn.
And I have to say it: Most everything in the USA is outside 495. Get out once in a while. Diversity: embrace it.
You're almost as bad as the particular type of Minnesotans that think there's nothing outside the 494/694 loop. Take that, Handy!
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
Re: POTUS 45.3 - Bowling Green Massacre Memorial Thread
I'm not saying "book learnin'" teachers.
My father taught me that if I wanted to I could be something besides a farmhand and he pointed me at the right people to get me there. It was years later until I realized what he'd taught me.
I'm not saying "book learnin'" teachers.
My father taught me that if I wanted to I could be something besides a farmhand and he pointed me at the right people to get me there. It was years later until I realized what he'd taught me.
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The Sicatoka
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I'm pretty sure he believes you drugged him and put him into some sort of VR environment 'cause ain't nothin' beyond 494/694!
I'm pretty sure he believes you drugged him and put him into some sort of VR environment 'cause ain't nothin' beyond 494/694!
St. Clown
Liberal Rebel Scum, apparently
Re: POTUS 45.3 - Bowling Green Massacre Memorial Thread
That all depends upon if he thinks the Gophers won at REA or not.I'm pretty sure he believes you drugged him and put him into some sort of VR environment 'cause ain't nothin' beyond 494/694!
The Sicatoka
Kicizapi Cetan
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< non-sequitur alert >
What the heck is with all the tattoos in the world today?
< non-sequitur alert >
What the heck is with all the tattoos in the world today?
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Deutsche Gopher Fan
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I'm pretty sure he believes you drugged him and put him into some sort of VR environment 'cause ain't nothin' beyond 494/694!
Best part? We got up there and one of the lead news stories was the woman arrested for playing porn movies at a high volume ...and she lived across from an elementary school
Also our pregnant waitress was taking shots...
Re: POTUS 45.3 - Bowling Green Massacre Memorial Thread
I posted it for what it is. Granted, it does show Minnesota near the top, something that is called into question almost daily around here by your involvement in these threads, but I gave the link the benefit of the doubt.
http://public-schools.startclass.com/stories/13054/states-ranked-test-scores
I googled "standardized test scores by state" and the following link came up. As I skimmed through the results it showed the usual suspects at the bottom (Mississippi, etc...) but also indicated that states like California, New York and Illinois were in the bottom half.
I posted it for what it is. Granted, it does show Minnesota near the top, something that is called into question almost daily around here by your involvement in these threads, but I gave the link the benefit of the doubt.
http://public-schools.startclass.com/stories/13054/states-ranked-test-scores
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