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POTUS 45.2 - Same arguments, different sides

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Handyman said:
I know Dillo personally...lay off him he is an actual libertarian. He is far from a Trumper.
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OK, but I can't imagine why any libertarian would defend Trump in any way. Trump is the anti-libertarian. Even on issues he doesn't give a crap about like abortion he is perfectly happy to see the GOP enact Jesus Sharia as long as they bow and scrape to him.
 
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Don't you frigging libs kid yourselves. There are a lot of caves out there filled with people who are not like us. With clubs.
 
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burd said:
Don't you frigging libs kid yourselves. There are a lot of caves out there filled with people who are not like us. With clubs.
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Who's arguing? I work in one of those caves.
 
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Since Flaggy likes to regularly throw out how Trump isn't an "I" guy, enjoy his sincere focus on black history instead of himself:

Well, the election, it came out really well. Next time we’ll triple the number or quadruple it. We want to get it over 51, right? At least 51.

Well this is Black History Month, so this is our little breakfast, our little get-together. Hi Lynn, how are you? Just a few notes. During this month, we honor the tremendous history of African-Americans throughout our country. Throughout the world, if you really think about it, right? And their story is one of unimaginable sacrifice, hard work, and faith in America. I’ve gotten a real glimpse—during the campaign, I’d go around with Ben to a lot of different places I wasn’t so familiar with. They’re incredible people. And I want to thank Ben Carson, who’s gonna be heading up HUD. That’s a big job. That’s a job that’s not only housing, but it’s mind and spirit. Right, Ben? And you understand, nobody’s gonna be better than Ben.

Last month, we celebrated the life of Reverend Martin Luther King, Jr., whose incredible example is unique in American history. You read all about Dr. Martin Luther King a week ago when somebody said I took the statue out of my office. It turned out that that was fake news. Fake news. The statue is cherished, it’s one of the favorite things in the—and we have some good ones. We have Lincoln, and we have Jefferson, and we have Dr. Martin Luther King. But they said the statue, the bust of Martin Luther King, was taken out of the office. And it was never even touched. So I think it was a disgrace, but that’s the way the press is. Very unfortunate.

I am very proud now that we have a museum on the National Mall where people can learn about Reverend King, so many other things. Frederick Douglass is an example of somebody who’s done an amazing job and is being recognized more and more, I noticed. Harriet Tubman, Rosa Parks, and millions more black Americans who made America what it is today. Big impact.

I’m proud to honor this heritage and will be honoring it more and more. The folks at the table in almost all cases have been great friends and supporters. Darrell—I met Darrell when he was defending me on television. And the people that were on the other side of the argument didn’t have a chance, right? And Paris has done an amazing job in a very hostile CNN community. He’s all by himself. You’ll have seven people, and Paris. And I’ll take Paris over the seven. But I don’t watch CNN, so I don’t get to see you as much as I used to. I don’t like watching fake news. But Fox has treated me very nice. Wherever Fox is, thank you.

We’re gonna need better schools and we need them soon. We need more jobs, we need better wages, a lot better wages. We’re gonna work very hard on the inner city. Ben is gonna be doing that, big league. That’s one of the big things that you’re gonna be looking at. We need safer communities and we’re going to do that with law enforcement. We’re gonna make it safe. We’re gonna make it much better than it is right now. Right now it’s terrible, and I saw you talking about it the other night, Paris, on something else that was really—you did a fantastic job the other night on a very unrelated show.

I’m ready to do my part, and I will say this: We’re gonna work together. This is a great group, this is a group that’s been so special to me. You really helped me a lot. If you remember I wasn’t going to do well with the African-American community, and after they heard me speaking and talking about the inner city and lots of other things, we ended up getting—and I won’t go into details—but we ended up getting substantially more than other candidates who had run in the past years. And now we’re gonna take that to new levels. I want to thank my television star over here—Omarosa’s actually a very nice person, nobody knows that. I don’t want to destroy her reputation but she’s a very good person, and she’s been helpful right from the beginning of the campaign, and I appreciate it. I really do. Very special.

So I want to thank everybody for being here.
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He did manage to get out a thank you without losing his train of thought.
 
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Utah Rep. Jason Chaffetz has 43 investigations planned — not one of them is Trump-related

You seriously can't make this shit up.

Washington • Despite pleas from Democrats, the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee agenda for the next two years includes no planned inquiries into the Trump organization's global entanglements and the potential for conflicts of interest.
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Democrats proposed several Trump-related investigations in different formats, they said. But so far, they said Chaffetz has expressed more interest in non-Trump inquiries, including a recent letter to the FBI asking for more detail about Hillary Clinton's email operations. Another asked about the conduct of the director of the Office of Government Ethics, who was critical of Trump's decision not to divest his personal holdings.
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In the agenda distributed Monday, Republicans proposed investigations into health care and entitlement programs, federal grant-making and the operation of the Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority.
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Last week, Cummings reminded his colleagues that he often joined with Republicans to investigate the Obama administration, signing 740 letters with Republicans to pursue such probes. "We conducted bipartisan investigation of the Secret Service, law enforcement agencies, monitoring the cellphones of American citizens, sexual misconduct at the National Park Service and leadership problems at the Chemical Safety Board."

"I know Republicans are not going to investigate President Trump with the same urgency that they investigated President Obama and Secretary Clinton for the past eight years. But our oversight cannot be non-existent."

Chaffetz said in a statement provided to The Post that his team has listened to Democrats' concerns and adopted many of them.
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This forum needs a rolling smilie. :rolleyes:
 
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This seems legit:
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-transition-oust-inspectors-general

Email Shows Trump Team Initiated Effort To Replace All Inspectors General
Inspectors general are independent watchdogs who are typically in place for an indefinite period, regardless of the party in charge.
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Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-UT), the chair of the House Oversight Committee, told the Post that the initial instructions for inspectors general were a "mistake."

“I want to let you know that I’ve spoken with the general counsel at the White House on this topic,” he said in an interview published Wednesday. “I think it’s safe to say that was a mistake, they wish it hadn’t happened, it’s not their approach, it’s not their intention.”
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