It really isn't. From Woburn you're looking at an hour each way during rush hour on a normal day. Sure, you could commute 50 miles a day, but then you're talking three to four hours in the car each day. Most of the jobs in Mass are around Boston so that is where most people are going to live.
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POTUS 45.15 - Now With More Yacht Banging Stories!
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It really isn't. From Woburn you're looking at an hour each way during rush hour on a normal day. Sure, you could commute 50 miles a day, but then you're talking three to four hours in the car each day. Most of the jobs in Mass are around Boston so that is where most people are going to live.
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Is this a good time to mention I kicked @ ss buying a house within the inner western suburbs of Boston 12 years ago?
Drew, let me ease your concerns about Mass. People are moving to the same half dozen or so cities for good, high paying jobs in interesting places. Boston, NY, DC, SF, Seattle, Austin, and throw a couple more in there if you'd like. Everywhere else will turn into a wasteland identified not by name but rather but what # Wal-Mart store is located in it (okay, I lifted that from somewhere, but work with me). Despite sky-high prices, ungodly traffic, awesome sports teams, and an incorrect perception of high taxes (MA is actually middle of the road on total taxation), people will continue to come here to make their fortune in a region that doesn't consider itself to have "made it" whenever an Applebees opens downtown (that I did lift from Nick/MAV or whatever he calls himself now). In the meantime older wealthy residents who've already made bank will cash out and move to Del Boca Vista in Sh !twater, Florida or some other generic mind numbing place.
Is this a good time to mention I kicked @ ss buying a house within the inner western suburbs of Boston 12 years ago?
Drew, let me ease your concerns about Mass. People are moving to the same half dozen or so cities for good, high paying jobs in interesting places. Boston, NY, DC, SF, Seattle, Austin, and throw a couple more in there if you'd like. Everywhere else will turn into a wasteland identified not by name but rather but what # Wal-Mart store is located in it (okay, I lifted that from somewhere, but work with me). Despite sky-high prices, ungodly traffic, awesome sports teams, and an incorrect perception of high taxes (MA is actually middle of the road on total taxation), people will continue to come here to make their fortune in a region that doesn't consider itself to have "made it" whenever an Applebees opens downtown (that I did lift from Nick/MAV or whatever he calls himself now). In the meantime older wealthy residents who've already made bank will cash out and move to Del Boca Vista in Sh !twater, Florida or some other generic mind numbing place.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
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She sucked but she's history. Herstory. Moving forward there is nothing inherently wrong with what Rover is saying: you campaign as hard you can for your candidate during the nomination process, but once a nominee is decided you go balls deep for them. Rover is absolutely right that I and many like me forgot that. We voted for her and we pointed out the other guy was poison, but we didn't campaign as hard as if it has been a better nominee. I personally had the opportunity to canvass in PA on Election Day and I didn't. That violated Politics 101, and so I share blame for what happened.
She sucked but she's history. Herstory. Moving forward there is nothing inherently wrong with what Rover is saying: you campaign as hard you can for your candidate during the nomination process, but once a nominee is decided you go balls deep for them. Rover is absolutely right that I and many like me forgot that. We voted for her and we pointed out the other guy was poison, but we didn't campaign as hard as if it has been a better nominee. I personally had the opportunity to canvass in PA on Election Day and I didn't. That violated Politics 101, and so I share blame for what happened.
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My point is that you can not extrapolate Woburn to the rest of the state because of Boston. According to Zillow, the median home price of the ENTIRE state is $375k. Which tells me that a $400k 1000 ft^2 home in Woburn isn't average.
Your point that young people can't get homes in Mass because of prices in Woburn is just wrong. On average, including metro boston, a 1000ft^2 home costs $245k, and metro Boston isn't average.
data says so. https://www.zillow.com/ma/home-values/
My point is that you can not extrapolate Woburn to the rest of the state because of Boston. According to Zillow, the median home price of the ENTIRE state is $375k. Which tells me that a $400k 1000 ft^2 home in Woburn isn't average.
Your point that young people can't get homes in Mass because of prices in Woburn is just wrong. On average, including metro boston, a 1000ft^2 home costs $245k, and metro Boston isn't average.
data says so. https://www.zillow.com/ma/home-values/
Is this a good time to mention I kicked @ ss buying a house within the inner western suburbs of Boston 12 years ago?
Drew, let me ease your concerns about Mass. People are moving to the same half dozen or so cities for good, high paying jobs in interesting places. Boston, NY, DC, SF, Seattle, Austin, and throw a couple more in there if you'd like. Everywhere else will turn into a wasteland identified not by name but rather but what # Wal-Mart store is located in it (okay, I lifted that from somewhere, but work with me). Despite sky-high prices, ungodly traffic, awesome sports teams, and an incorrect perception of high taxes (MA is actually middle of the road on total taxation), people will continue to come here to make their fortune in a region that doesn't consider itself to have "made it" whenever an Applebees opens downtown (that I did lift from Nick/MAV or whatever he calls himself now). In the meantime older wealthy residents who've already made bank will cash out and move to Del Boca Vista in Sh !twater, Florida or some other generic mind numbing place.
I appreciate the reassurance. My wife wants to buy in a few years and I'm not totally convinced. I worry about buying high where the market has gone up so much the past five years or so. I do agree that the area should maintain its desirability down the road.
aparch
Acetaminamerican
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There we go: chalk up another verified form of Abuse of Power:
Trump’s DHS Ordered Agents to Block Congressmen During Travel Ban
Head of DHS may have overstepped his bounds. Was he directed to by someone in the White House? President Bannon a little eager?
There we go: chalk up another verified form of Abuse of Power:
Trump’s DHS Ordered Agents to Block Congressmen During Travel Ban
Head of DHS may have overstepped his bounds. Was he directed to by someone in the White House? President Bannon a little eager?
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To Spartan's point of "what did Hillary do wrong", to the extent that someone isn't an inspirational speaker is a fault then sure. Tactically though, as the campaign was unfolding I'm not sure what we all thought she should be doing differently? She ripped him to shreds in the debates. Took the scandal mongering head on with that 11 hour Benghazi circus hearing. Co-opted a lot of Sanders positions in order to unify the party post-convention. The "she should have stopped in state xyz doesn't make sense to me as she stopped many times in PA but still didn't win the state. The problem is Dem voters stayed home up and down the ticket. I have no idea why, but the idea that they would have showed up for Biden for example, a guy with more corporate connections than Hillary, or Bernie who didn't have a lot of appeal to non-white voters is a stretch. Much like 2000, people seemed to want to only show up if the incumbent was running for a 3rd term.
To Spartan's point of "what did Hillary do wrong", to the extent that someone isn't an inspirational speaker is a fault then sure. Tactically though, as the campaign was unfolding I'm not sure what we all thought she should be doing differently? She ripped him to shreds in the debates. Took the scandal mongering head on with that 11 hour Benghazi circus hearing. Co-opted a lot of Sanders positions in order to unify the party post-convention. The "she should have stopped in state xyz doesn't make sense to me as she stopped many times in PA but still didn't win the state. The problem is Dem voters stayed home up and down the ticket. I have no idea why, but the idea that they would have showed up for Biden for example, a guy with more corporate connections than Hillary, or Bernie who didn't have a lot of appeal to non-white voters is a stretch. Much like 2000, people seemed to want to only show up if the incumbent was running for a 3rd term.
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The problems with this country are real. Wealth is concentrating in the same few regions, primarily on each coast while everywhere else gets left behind. Not sure what the solution is but I'm seeing the same thing Trump voters are, admittedly from a different vantage point, so to that extent I get their frustrations but not their proposed cure.
The problems with this country are real. Wealth is concentrating in the same few regions, primarily on each coast while everywhere else gets left behind. Not sure what the solution is but I'm seeing the same thing Trump voters are, admittedly from a different vantage point, so to that extent I get their frustrations but not their proposed cure.
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
So taking into account the houses for $15,000 in Springfield Boston homes (on average) must be running well over 700,000
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
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Settle down, Kellyanne.
History mookie's arse!!! Hilly is running again
Settle down, Kellyanne.
WeAreNDHockey
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VPs decided it for me in 2008. Had McCain picked someone I like and Obama picked someone I did not I would have voted for McCain. Instead Obama picked Biden, who I liked a lot, and McCain picked Palin, which woke me up once and for all to what the Republican party had become. I've said many times VPs and the color of Obama's skin made my decision for me. Guess I'm bit of racist too...
VPs decided it for me in 2008. Had McCain picked someone I like and Obama picked someone I did not I would have voted for McCain. Instead Obama picked Biden, who I liked a lot, and McCain picked Palin, which woke me up once and for all to what the Republican party had become. I've said many times VPs and the color of Obama's skin made my decision for me. Guess I'm bit of racist too...
WeAreNDHockey
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I thought he picked her because he thought she looked good in red high heeled pumps.
I thought he picked her because he thought she looked good in red high heeled pumps.
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Her first campaign speech is already written for her: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6CVvNRQcvE
Though she won't run again. Zuckerberg already hired Hil's top pollster and is armed with all our private data.
History mookie's arse!!! Hilly is running again
Her first campaign speech is already written for her: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6CVvNRQcvE
Though she won't run again. Zuckerberg already hired Hil's top pollster and is armed with all our private data.
The problems with this country are real. Wealth is concentrating in the same few regions, primarily on each coast while everywhere else gets left behind. Not sure what the solution is but I'm seeing the same thing Trump voters are, admittedly from a different vantage point, so to that extent I get their frustrations but not their proposed cure.
It's funny that a lot of our problems are actually things we are very lucky for. If you look at the history of man we historically have put a lot of our labors into meeting basic needs. With modern technology we can meet most of them with minimum human labor.
As far as inequality, it is a tough situation. Higher taxes obviously would help some. It's always ebbed and flowed throughout history though and im sure it will even itself out eventually. I think the bigger issue is that so many people are down on themselves and the county in general. Even though things aren't necessarily 'fair' there is still a lot of opportunity out there and for the most part people have it pretty good here.
trixR4kids
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IDK about that, they don't have nearly the amount of baggage that Hillary does.
WeAreNDHockey
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Hell, she should have spent all the time she spent in Ohio in MI, PA and WI. While I thought she was still gonna win, I had figured out by Labor Day she had no shot in Ohio. While polls consistently show a close race, within the margins of error, I was telling co-workers (as we worked 7 days a week on the election) she was not only going to lose Ohio, it wasn't going to be close. And in the end, she lost by twice what late polls showed. Yet, inexplicably she spent more days in Ohio than in PA, WI or MI. In fact after winning the nomination she was in Ohio 15 times and Michigan and Wisconsin 4. Make that Michigan 4, as once she was nominated she never made it back to WI. Stupid. Had she spent those 15 days in Ohio in Michigan and Wisconsin and a few more in PA it may have made a difference. Granted she needed to win all three to get to 270 EVs but I'm thinking a few visits to WI couldn't have hurt.
Hell, she should have spent all the time she spent in Ohio in MI, PA and WI. While I thought she was still gonna win, I had figured out by Labor Day she had no shot in Ohio. While polls consistently show a close race, within the margins of error, I was telling co-workers (as we worked 7 days a week on the election) she was not only going to lose Ohio, it wasn't going to be close. And in the end, she lost by twice what late polls showed. Yet, inexplicably she spent more days in Ohio than in PA, WI or MI. In fact after winning the nomination she was in Ohio 15 times and Michigan and Wisconsin 4. Make that Michigan 4, as once she was nominated she never made it back to WI. Stupid. Had she spent those 15 days in Ohio in Michigan and Wisconsin and a few more in PA it may have made a difference. Granted she needed to win all three to get to 270 EVs but I'm thinking a few visits to WI couldn't have hurt.
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
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All those darkies from New York are coming up to sell smack to addicts, and impregnate their young daughters. Maine's Gov. said that last year, so Donnie probably thinks it's true in NH, too.
Or he just thinks NH and ME are the same state.
tD won NH cause it's a drug infested den
All those darkies from New York are coming up to sell smack to addicts, and impregnate their young daughters. Maine's Gov. said that last year, so Donnie probably thinks it's true in NH, too.
Or he just thinks NH and ME are the same state.
FadeToBlack&Gold
Microlot Marxist
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BTW, Orange Droolius starts a well-earned 17-day golf vacation tomorrow. It's hard work Tweeting at all hours of the day and night, and the White House is just such a dump compared to his golf cottage. He needs time to relax, and work on his Putin, er I mean puttin'!
BTW, Orange Droolius starts a well-earned 17-day golf vacation tomorrow. It's hard work Tweeting at all hours of the day and night, and the White House is just such a dump compared to his golf cottage. He needs time to relax, and work on his Putin, er I mean puttin'!
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