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POTUS 45.14 - No Confusion, It's Collusion!

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Handyman said:
Yeah you are right Scooby none of us can think for ourselves :rolleyes:

I dont see anyone excusing Dubya for anything.
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Sensitive much? I didn't say you couldn't think for yourself. But as far as I'm concerned this is BS.
That type of hyperbole was ridiculous then and it is even dumber now.
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ScoobyDoo said:
Sensitive much? I didn't say you couldn't think for yourself. But as far as I'm concerned this is BS.
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Calling him a War Criminal is hyperbole I am sorry. The War Criminals are people like Colin Powell and Dick Cheney...they knew what they were doing.
 
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Handyman said:
Calling him a War Criminal is hyperbole I am sorry. The War Criminals are people like Colin Powell and Dick Cheney...they knew what they were doing.
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The most powerful man in the World is an innocent dupe?

I can just imagine what excuses were going to hear for Orange Hair when he comes up on charges.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
The most powerful man in the World is an innocent dupe?

I can just imagine what excuses were going to hear for Orange Hair when he comes up on charges.
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I dont think he is innocent but he is no more a war criminal than Lyndon Johnson was.
 
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Handyman said:
Calling him a War Criminal is hyperbole I am sorry. The War Criminals are people like Colin Powell and Dick Cheney...they knew what they were doing.
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That's mighty harsh on Powell. I believe Powell was trying to slow down the machine from inside and fought to sabotage the thugs. He failed tragically but I think he has paid an enormous price.

If you want to find a second war criminal look at Condi or Rummy. They were stone cold as-sholes who believed in what they were doing. They were Hoover Institute neocons who were conducting some sort of bizarre sociological cleansing because they believed a lot of cut rate pseudophilosophy peddled by Kagan and VDH. They really were the equivalent of communist or Nazi vanguard "breaking eggs" to build their Utopian world. F-ck them.
 
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Kepler said:
That's mighty harsh on Powell. I believe Powell was trying to slow down the machine from inside and fought to sabotage the thugs. He failed tragically but I think he has paid an enormous price.

If you want to find a second war criminal look at Condi or Rummy. They were stone cold as-sholes who believed in what they were doing. They were Hoover Institute neocons who were conducting some sort of bizarre sociological cleansing because they believed a lot of cut rate pseudophilosophy peddled by Kagan and VDH. They really were the equivalent of communist or Nazi vanguard "breaking eggs" to build their Utopian world. F-ck them.
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I think it's amazing that we hear deaf silence now that Iran and Iraq are allies. At least the NY Times reports on it. Don't hear anything on any of shows because we're dominated with Orange Hair's Tweets and Turtle Boy's Health Debacle.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/15/world/middleeast/iran-iraq-iranian-power.html
 
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Trying to slow it down, by literally going in front of the UN and lying? He made the case, he saw the evidence and he had to know it was BS. He certainly knew more than Dubya did. The man was in charge, he backed the play of all of them and did nothing to hamper them.
 
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Handyman said:
I dont think he is innocent but he is no more a war criminal than Lyndon Johnson was.
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Nah, Dubya goes in the same box as Saint Ronnie: dumb f-cks who are technically responsible for their carnage but have so little upstairs you might as well blame a squirrel.
 
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Handyman said:
Trying to slow it down, by literally going in front of the UN and lying? He made the case, he saw the evidence and he had to know it was BS. He certainly knew more than Dubya did.
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I just don't know if he was lying. I know he's implicated in the Cheney crimes, but I don't think he lied or was a sociopath like most of them. I think he was a good man who saw a monstrous machine about to slash and burn, and he thought if he could only be at the controls he could limit the damage. But the result is his own fingerprints are on the murder weapons.

I understand what you are saying, but to me Powell is the tragic America hero.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Which means every dollar spent in Iraq was wasted. Every single one. Well, unless you're Halliburton or some other defense contractor.
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And every life, too.

But the fortunes of about 6000 American families are humming right along.

The reckoning is going to be ugly.
 
Slap Shot said:
Every once in a while he needs to be reminded of their position as a sub-species.
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They might exist but I've met a total of one male from winsconsin who isn't a right wing parrot.
Still waiting to meet one from ND
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Which means every dollar spent in Iraq was wasted. Every single one. Well, unless you're Halliburton or some other defense contractor.
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Pretty much all our actions dealing with those two countries since Carter has now been wasted.
 
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@dick_nixon: The thing to do is win, by God. Win. Win. Outwork the other guy. Outgun him. Draw a line and dare him to cross it. And fight. Always fight,

@dick_nixon: I left the House because I don't like fools, and I left the Senate because I don't buy all that hocus-pocus about "comity" and "procedure."
 
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40715185

Seriously. Who in the hell voted for this guy and why? There is so much **** in this speech.

Parents have expressed anger after President Donald Trump delivered a highly politicised speech to tens of thousands of boy scouts.

Mr Trump started by saying: "Who the hell wants to speak about politics?"

But his speech to the Jamboree in West Virginia railed against Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and the "cesspool" of politics, drawing whoops and cheers.

One parent wrote: "Done with scouts after you felt the need to have my kid listen to a liar stroke his ego."
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The more I read on that speech the more amazed I am.
 
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joecct said:
@dick_nixon: The thing to do is win, by God. Win. Win. Outwork the other guy. Outgun him. Draw a line and dare him to cross it. And fight. Always fight,

@dick_nixon: I left the House because I don't like fools, and I left the Senate because I don't buy all that hocus-pocus about "comity" and "procedure."
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And?
 
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