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POTUS 45.1 - You take the high road and I'll take the low road

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The page for the judicial branch has disappeared from White House website...it was there before jan 20
These people think they can delete pages and the subjects of the pages go away? Climate change? The effing judicial branch? If the page was relocated then where the hell is it?
Are they gonna try to rewrite the god**** constitution?
 
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I, as a libertarian, am heartened to see the left's rediscovered love for states' rights, federalism, protest against the government, separation of powers, and limited executive branch authority. I fondly remember screaming about these things for the last eight years, and being called a knuckle-dragging racist for my efforts.

Moral of the story: never extend powers to the President that you wouldn't want an opposition President to have.
 
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I didn't see this mentioned, but there has been a lot that gets missed with how many posts this thread gets.

Sean Spicer retweeted The Onion thinking it was a legit news source.

http://www.avclub.com/article/sean-spicer-reads-onion-maybe-not-too-closely-249299

Sean Spicer @SeanSpicer: "You nailed it. Period!"

The Onion @theonion: ".@SeanSpicer's role in the Trump administration will be to provide the American public with robust and clearly articulated misinformation.
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joecct said:
What!? Can this be true? Obama did it first!?!?!!!

http://m.townhall.com/tipsheet/matt...led-muslim-ban-are-ones-obama-choose-n2278021
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Educate yourself: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...ee-policy-fact-check-2011-20170129-story.html

ScoobyDoo said:
Here's how you know you screwed up rolling out your new guidelines.

Idiots are running things in Washington DC now.

Oh, and 60 minutes replayed a wonderful story on Syrian refugees and their travel to America. After watching that it's even more maddening watching Trump **** all over the Statue of Liberty.
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If that is the same piece I recall watching before did they not detail the extreme vetting process that has already been in place for quite some time that makes nearly impossible to get a visa without receiving severe scrutiny? Trumpanistas make it sound like you just show up and, "Go ahead sir".
 
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I fondly remember screaming about these things for the last eight years, and being called a knuckle-dragging racist for my efforts.
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That wasn't the part that made you a knuckle-dragging racist.
 
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Here's basically a transcript of the vetting process for Syrian refugees:

We wanted to see for ourselves who these refugees are, and what is the vetting process.

Gina Kassem oversees the refugee resettlement program in the Middle East and North Africa for the U.S. State Department. She says the U.S. is now processing an additional 21,000 Syrian refugee applications for relocation to the United States.

Kassem told us each Syrian refugee who makes it to the United States goes through a lengthy process of interviews and background checks.

Bill Whitaker: You know there are many Americans who don’t trust government to fix the roads or run the schools. How can you convince them that this process is going to keep them safe?

Gina Kassem: Because they undergo so many steps of vetting, so many interviews, so many intelligence screenings, so many checks along the way. They’re fleeing the terrorists who killed their family members, who destroyed their houses. These are the victims that we are helping through our program.
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For the lucky few this is where the long road to the U.S. begins. Everyday thousands of Syrian refugees line up here in Amman, Jordan, to register with the U.N.

Every single refugee is interviewed in detail multiple times by the U.N. for their vital statistics: where they came from, who they know.

Their irises are scanned to establish their identity.

And then they wait for the chance the U.N. might refer them to the United States. Less than one percent will get that chance.

For that one percent the next step is this State Department resettlement center in Amman for a background check led by specially trained Department of Homeland Security interrogators.

Like all Syrian refugees being vetted this family was questioned at least three times by interviewers looking for gaps or inconsistencies in their stories.

All that information is then run though U.S. security databases for any red flags. To be a refugee in Jordan is to be patient. The U.S. security check goes on an average of 18-24 months.
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More on the refugee vetting process: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-the-u-s-screens-syrian-refugees/

This week on 60 Minutes, correspondent Bill Whittaker has an inside look at what the United State’s vetting process for Syrian refugees was before the Executive Order. In the clip above, Jeh Johnson, former Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, explains the step-by-step procedure.

“Of all the different ways to enter this country as an immigrant, doing so as a refugee is probably the most cumbersome and time-consuming,” Johnson says.

He explains that the process begins with the United Nations. Long before refugees make the journey to a new home, they are interviewed multiple times by the U.N. for their vital statistics — including where they came from and who they know — and given an iris scan to establish their identity. After that initial assessment, the U.N. then refers refugees to a country for resettlement.
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If that country is the U.S., a State Department resettlement center takes over, runs background checks, and creates a file on the refugee. From there, the Department of Homeland Security, led by specially trained interrogators, conducts additional interviews looking for gaps or inconsistencies in their stories. All that information is then run though U.S. security databases for any red flags. If approved, the refugee goes through medical screening by a team of doctors prior to arriving in the country.

The entire process, Johnson told 60 Minutes, takes between 18 and 24 months.
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According to Kassem, less than half of one percent of those from Syria who resettle in the United States are single young men. Those who are qualify as among the most vulnerable, either because of severe medical needs or minors who don’t have family to support them.

“It is single digits how many single young men would be part of our resettlement program,” Kassem says.

When refugees do arrive in the U.S., they’re expected to repay the government for their plane tickets. As Kassem explains in the clip above, the government asks refugees resettled in the U.S. to repay the fare six months after they arrive, giving them time to find a job. That money then helps additional refugees resettle in the U.S., which encourages the refugees to repay their fare.

“Because they are indebted to the United States for taking then in,” she says, “they want more people in their situation who are fleeing the violence to be able to take advantage of the program.”
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From threatening corporations to change their investments due to protectionist measures, adding business taxes pet projects like the wall and going solidly against decades of corporate ethics, Trump has already positioned himself as the least business friendly president ever. And we're less than a month in.
 
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Us and other countries should really move forward with setting up a new country for the world's refugees. There are people who have been stuck for 10+ years and a lot more than people realize.
 
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Drew S. said:
Us and other countries should really move forward with setting up a new country for the world's refugees. There are people who have been stuck for 10+ years and a lot more than people realize.
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Where? And what would they do once they got there?

That *seems* like a common sense idea- but it's very far from one. To support any refugees, you need some kind of economy to take care of them, AND to make sure they have something to do, unless you want a country that is just filled with cities where people are in tents doing nothing what so ever.

Besides the fact that there's no available area in the world for a new country, unless, of course, the idea is to start another warring area which would eliminate most of these refugees you think could go to a brand new country.

It's a whole lot easier if developed countries figured out a way to house people, and then help them get back home when the situation is more stable.
 
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Armadillo said:
I, as a libertarian, am heartened to see the left's rediscovered love for states' rights, federalism, protest against the government, separation of powers, and limited executive branch authority. I fondly remember screaming about these things for the last eight years, and being called a knuckle-dragging racist for my efforts.

Moral of the story: never extend powers to the President that you wouldn't want an opposition President to have.
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USCHO Political Thread Rule of Thumb:
My side does it out of principle. Your side does it out of (choose most appropriate answers) a) Racism b) Bigotry c) Sexism d) Stupidity e) Spite f) insert "ism" of the week. And, any attempt to compare is a......wait for it....false equivalency.
 
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anyone else wondering what President Bannon's '30 day plan for defeating ISIS' will be? It's got to include massive numbers of boots on the ground, right? There is nothing else they could do that would have much affect in 30 days -- this isn't a problem you can fix quickly. Is Trump going to start a massive war in the middle east?
 
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