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POTUS 45.1 - You take the high road and I'll take the low road

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ScoobyDoo said:
Dick ****ing Cheney doesn't agree with this refugee executive order. This President is out of his ****ing mind and a ****ing moron.

But, hey, we voted in the first President to **** on the Statue of Liberty. The US is getting what they voted for.
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I have no issue with him enforcing immigration laws on the books but this is cracked.
 
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I'm not convinced he was completely sane. He was relative to trump.
 
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So lawsuits have already been filed and protestors are gathering at airports.

The Resistance has begun.
 
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Can you feel the anger building in the muslim world? Can you see the smiles on the faces of radical Islamist recruiters? Boners all around in their world.

The Flaggys of the world have em too.
 
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Great, I have to get through 3 international airports tomorrow
 
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burd said:
Can you feel the anger building in the muslim world? Can you see the smiles on the faces of radical Islamist recruiters? Boners all around in their world.

The Flaggys of the world have em too.
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I was thinking the same thing. And that's a massive problem. Republicans are so shortsighted
 
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And again I remind myself the only thing about the Trump regime that I can tolerate is many, many people who voted for/supported him will be suffering extreme consequences before the next election even rolls around. 5h!t is going to start hitting the fan like this country has never seen before. Yes, I have heard of WW2, the great depression and the civil war. America (and the world) is well and truly fooked. There won't even be time for him to ruin our environment.
 
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You don't think there is time to ruin the environment?
 
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A federal court has halted Trump's ban.

The federal court for the Eastern District of New York issued an emergency stay halting President Donald Trump’s executive order banning entry to the US from seven majority-Muslim countries tonight, following widespread protests at airports around the country.
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Edit: Apparently this is only for those currently detained.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
You don't think there is time to ruin the environment?
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Wide spread environmental catastrophe won't happen in the next few weeks or months. But a conflict over Middle Eastern/radical Islamic entanglements with Russia could easily devolve into a real live shooting war in a matter of months or even weeks with someone as unbalanced and unqualified as Trump in the White House. Trump voters should rot in Hell if the worst happens. Anyone with an even half way open and functional mind knew giving him the keys to the castle was a dangerous idea.
 
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Spartanforlife4 said:
A federal court has halted Trump's ban.



Edit: Apparently this is only for those currently detained.
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Not really all that surprising, as you would think, in terms of international affairs, you'd be decent enough to notify of the ban before boarding the plane. Of course, the US doesn't really have much of a say until they hit the border; any ol' schmoe can leave a country, it's entering that's an issue. One thing to remember, though, is that you have no Constitutional rights at the border, because you have not yet been admitted to the US.
 
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This administration is being run by children and amateurs. It's an embarrassment.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...s-order-to-ban-refugees-from-muslim-countries

Hamaseh Tayari, a UK resident who holds an Iranian passport, has been on holiday in Costa Rica with her boyfriend for the last week. She was due to fly back to Glasgow, where she works as a vet, this morning but was denied entry onto the flight because her flight went via New York and she would need a transit visa, which was revoked.

Tayari, who grew up in Italy, has never experienced anything like this. She says: “This has really shocked me. We just discovered [what Trump did] at the airport when we went to check in. I want people to know that this is not just happening to refugees. I am a graduate and I have a PhD. It has happened to a person who is working and who pays tax.”

Tayari and her boyfriend are trying to find an alternative route home. A flight to Madrid on the 30 January will cost them £2,000 and they’ll still have to find a way from there to Glasgow. “We had been saving for months for this holiday and it will cost me a month’s salary just to get home,” she said.
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Murtadha Al-Tameemi, 24 is a software engineer for Facebook from Iraq who lives and works in Seattle. He was in Canada when he got a “frantic call” from his immigration attorney telling him to immediately cross the border back into the US.

Tameemi’s family lives just three hours away in Vancouver but he doesn’t know when he’ll see them again. “I have been traveling back and forth between the US and Canada on almost weekly basis for a few years,” he says. “I was in Vancouver to attend the opening night of my little brother’s first play when I got the call but there was no way I was going to miss that.

Tameemi, who first came to the US as an exchange student, also had to cancel a planned business trip to Africa. “It certainly doesn’t feel like the America that welcomed me 10 years ago with open arms and hearts.”
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Iran has condemned its inclusion alongside six other predominantly Muslim countries in the US visa ban as an “open affront against the Muslim world and the Iranian nation” and vowed to retaliate.

A foreign ministry statement carried by state media said Iran “would take appropriate consular, legal and political measures” against the ban, which was announced by Trump on Friday.

“The decision by the United States to impose travel restrictions on Muslims – even if it is limited to three months – is an explicit insult to the Muslim world, particularly the great people of Iran,” the statement read, according to the semi-official Tasnim news agency.

“Instead of countering terrorism and protecting American people, these measures will be written in history as a gift to extremists and their supporters.”
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Iraqi soldiers - who have been backed by US-led air support, training and other assistance - have decried Trump’s travel restrictions, AFP reports.

In Mosul, where Iraqi forces are at the forefront of the war against jihadists, soldiers told reporters the move would prevent them from visiting their families.

“It’s not fair, it’s not right. I should have the right to visit my family,” said Assem Ayad, a 23-year-old soldier deployed in Mosul who has three cousins living in Texas.

“This decision was made because there are terrorist groups in Iraq. But there are also innocent people” including those who are fighting against jihadists, said Ayad, who carried an American-made assault rifle.
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Ali Abdi, an Iranian with permanent residency of the US, is in limbo in Dubai.

He can not go to Iran because he has been outspoken about human rights violations there, he can not return to the US because of the visa bans and he can not stay longer in Dubai as his visa will run out. He said on his Facebook page:

I am an Iranian PhD student of anthropology in the US. Doing fieldwork is the defining method of our discipline. I left New York on January 22nd, two days after he was sworn in. Now in Dubai, waiting for the issuance of my visa to enter Afghanistan to carry out the ethnographic research. The language of the racist executive order he just signed is ambiguous, but it is likely to prevent permanent residents like me from returning to the country where I am a student, where I have to defend my thesis.
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Trump’s order banning migrants and refugees from entering the US is illegal, argues an immigration policy expert.

Writing for the New York Times, David J Bier, an analyst at the Cato Institute’s Center for Global Liberty and Prosperity, says that more than 50 years ago, Congress outlawed such discrimination against immigrants based on national origin.

The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 banned all discrimination against immigrants on the basis of national origin, Bier writes.

The act was drawn up in response to laws creating a so-called Asiatic Barred Zone, banning immigration from China, Japan and other Asian countries.

Trump points to a 1952 law allowing the president the ability to “suspend the entry” of “any class of aliens”, says Bier, but this ignores restrictions placed by Congress in 1965, stating no person could be “discriminated against in the issuance of an immigrant visa because of the person’s race, sex, nationality, place of birth or place of residence”.

While presidents have used their power dozens of times to keep out certain groups of foreigners under the 1952 law, no president has ever barred an entire nationality of immigrants, says Bier.
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Actually, Jimmy Carter banned Iranians as a response to the hostage situation.
 
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WeAreNDHockey said:
Wide spread environmental catastrophe won't happen in the next few weeks or months. But a conflict over Middle Eastern/radical Islamic entanglements with Russia could easily devolve into a real live shooting war in a matter of months or even weeks with someone as unbalanced and unqualified as Trump in the White House. Trump voters should rot in Hell if the worst happens. Anyone with an even half way open and functional mind knew giving him the keys to the castle was a dangerous idea.
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yup. **** Trump and **** anyone that voted for him or voted 3rd party.


by the way, congress is paving the way for the sale of over 3 million acres of federal land.
 
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