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POTUS 45.0: It was the best of times. It was the worst of times.

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WASHINGTON — Steven T. Mnuchin, President-elect Donald J. Trump’s pick to be Treasury secretary, failed to disclose nearly $100 million of his assets on Senate Finance Committee disclosure documents and forgot to mention his role as a director of an investment fund located in a tax haven.

The revelation came hours before Mr. Mnuchin, a former Goldman Sachs banker, was scheduled to testify on Thursday before the Senate Finance Committee, which has historically been bipartisan in its demands for transparency from nominees. Mr. Mnuchin was ready to outline his vision for the economy and defend himself against claims that he headed a bank that ran a “foreclosure machine” during the financial crisis.

“In his revised questionnaire, Mr. Mnuchin disclosed several additional financial assets, including $95 million worth of real estate — a co-op in New York City, a residence in Southampton, New York, a residence in Los Angeles, California, and $15 million in real estate holdings in Mexico,” Democratic staff members of the Senate Finance Committee wrote in a memo on Thursday. “Mr. Mnuchin has claimed these omissions were due to a misunderstanding of the questionnaire.”
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/19/...firmation.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0

Yeah, I don't want this guy either. These cabinet picks are off the charts stupid.
 
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In terms of redistricting, democracy's hopes once again rest on one man, Anthony Kennedy. I suspect we're going to be saying this a lot over the next 4 years. A federal court ruled against Wisconsin's districts as being too partisan. Kennedy's issue apparently is how to quantify this concept. In this particular lawsuit a formula (efficiency gap/wasted votes) was used. IF this gets accepted its going to be the quickest way to undo some of this nonsense and if that effects Dem states like Illinois or Maryland then so be it.

This article runs it down pretty well...

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/...found-to-unfairly-favor-republicans.html?_r=0

Beyond that I understand Holder is spearheading an effort to overturn some gerrymanders via court challenges and citizens ballot initiatives. A bit late in the game IMHO better than never I guess.
 
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Rover said:
In terms of redistricting, democracy's hopes once again rest on one man, Anthony Kennedy. I suspect we're going to be saying this a lot over the next 4 years. A federal court ruled against Wisconsin's districts as being too partisan. Kennedy's issue apparently is how to quantify this concept. In this particular lawsuit a formula (efficiency gap/wasted votes) was used. IF this gets accepted its going to be the quickest way to undo some of this nonsense and if that effects Dem states like Illinois or Maryland then so be it.

This article runs it down pretty well...

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/...found-to-unfairly-favor-republicans.html?_r=0

Beyond that I understand Holder is spearheading an effort to overturn some gerrymanders via court challenges and citizens ballot initiatives. A bit late in the game IMHO better than never I guess.
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mookie is ok with the CBO pulling out a ruler/protractor/etc and drawing as many straight lines as possible. if fact, the only time a 'curve' should appear is on state borders. do it up by numbers. if 2 existing reps are in the same square now, run against each other or move.
 
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Kepler said:
I'm assuming you were joking, since any discipline can be taught "down" or "up." I took a Baby Bio class as a freshman to satisfy an ALS requirement which was the easiest class I ever took in college (and from my disinterest generated my worst grade, of course). But Bio as a discipline is INSANELY complex and essential.
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I've just never seen anyone claim that earth science is an important science in the K-12 context. It's generally the one that people have to take freshman year of high school if they don't take one of the big three (bio, chem, physics). If the honors track kids can skip it altogether, I guess I question its importance in that context.
 
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St. Clown said:
So this is what self inflicted torture looks like in the political ranks. It's meaningless because the USA isn't one giant district. Winning big in the districts you do win means nothing if the majority of districts are won small by your opponent.

The process isn't rigged. Everybody knows the rules going into the election. It's a matter of process execution by the parties.
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Just because a process exists...doesn't make it best or right (see slavery).
 
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5mn_Major said:
Just because a process exists...doesn't make it best or right (see slavery).
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Just because the process turns out to not favor your preference doesn't mean it's a bad process.
 
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unofan said:
I've just never seen anyone claim that earth science is an important science in the K-12 context. It's generally the one that people have to take freshman year of high school if they don't take one of the big three (bio, chem, physics). If the honors track kids can skip it altogether, I guess I question its importance in that context.
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well it would be nice if people had a better understanding of climate change, right? I'm kind of sick of hearing "look, it snowed 16" in the mountains in Maine last night -- I thought you *******s said the earth was warming"
 
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unofan said:
I've just never seen anyone claim that earth science is an important science in the K-12 context. It's generally the one that people have to take freshman year of high school if they don't take one of the big three (bio, chem, physics). If the honors track kids can skip it altogether, I guess I question its importance in that context.
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My guess as to why is that it's the least math-intensive, until you get into the heavy hitting details later. Math is the glitz of science to high schoolers (and educators, and parents, and governments) so if it doesn't use lots of math it's "for dummies." This is why for example social science is glutted with all sorts of extraneous and downright silly quasi-mathematics.

I would argue that of all the sciences earth science may actually be the most important* to expose to the entire population while you still (sort of) have their attention in high school. Basic concepts like ecology, habitat, niche, cycle, food chain, organism are important building blocks for putting man's position relative to his environment in perspective. It helps when the Kochs say "we're gonna save this little species and cost a thousand jobs??? NEVER!!!" to have everyone's first thought be "but wait a minute -- what depends on that little species?"


* In the same vein I would argue that statistics is the most important post-algebra math to try to teach to 100% of the population regardless of their intelligence. It would be nice if our citizens could tell when statistical statements are meaningless, misleading, or downright mendacious.
 
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unofan said:
Doesn't make it a good one, either.
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And I would say that good v bad is entirely subjective in this case. People who cheer on the States Rights argument think it's great while those who want something more homogenized, central control of the government argue it's bad.
 
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The couch moment in Perry's hearing today was legitimately hilarious.


It's also interesting to see Al Franken so front and center in all of these hearings. He's turning into one of the more important senators. His philosophy has always been, get in, keep quiet and learn the ropes, and work hard.

Now he's evolving. It's been fun to watch.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
It's also interesting to see Al Franken so front and center in all of these hearings. He's turning into one of the more important senators. His philosophy has always been, get in, keep quiet and learn the ropes, and work hard.

Now he's evolving. It's been fun to watch.
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2020.
 
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I will also defend Mnuchin for a moment here. I don't know either way if he intentionally left off these assets and board positions from his disclosure. I do believe it was an honest mistake. He is a billionaire and likely has a horrendously complex wealth structure that makes disclosures extremely difficult. I think we need to offer a little trust that this wasn't done in bad faith. Question and investigate. Don't dwell unless there's evidence of wrongdoing. There are far more important ways to use your allotted time.
 
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2020.
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Under normal circumstances I would think Franken's SNL history would effectively kill any chances at a Presidential run.

But given the fact we're about to have President Trump, I have to rethink that notion.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
I will also defend Mnuchin for a moment here. I don't know either way if he intentionally left off these assets and board positions from his disclosure. I do believe it was an honest mistake. He is a billionaire and likely has a horrendously complex wealth structure that makes disclosures extremely difficult. I think we need to offer a little trust that this wasn't done in bad faith. Question and investigate. Don't dwell unless there's evidence of wrongdoing. There are far more important ways to use your allotted time.
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I don't buy it. He has an accountant. His accountant knows where everything is, I guarantee it.
 
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