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Plattsburgh State Hockey 2015-16 - Bob's 27th work in progress ...

With all due respect to Mr McShane, crap such as this is ALWAYS a direct reflection on a coach.
Such a shame too because McShane runs a great program otherwise.

First and foremost, I know for a fact that McShane ripped Pelletier for his "fly-by" on the Cards' bench. The post game interview was delayed slightly because Will was having a "chat" with Coach McShane.

Did anyone happen to see, during the "scrum" around the waved off goal, when Pelltier was taken down, in a headlock position? Go watch the replay; it happened. I'm not a homer with maroon colored glasses. Considering the kid just missed half the season recovering from a head injury, I think this probably contributed to his demeanor later on.

Additionally, I think celebration after the first Cardinal goal added some heat to the simmering tensions. Note that Pelletier mimicked the exact same move after his second goal. Coincidence?

Pelletier's move was pretty dickish, for sure. However, playing innocent is a bad look. The games are filmed, folks, and it doesn't lie.

Two good teams played a chippy contest. Wasn't the first time and won't be the last.
 
But has the whiney'est fan base when it comes to FREE internet broadcasts....

We certainly have some whiners in our ranks. But, I think it's more frustration. When you're excited to watch a hockey game, and are suddenly unable to do so, you get a little p***ed. My take is this, if you're going to broadcast it, it should work. Period, free or otherwise. It wasn't like last weekend's problems were a first.
 
First and foremost, I know for a fact that McShane ripped Pelletier for his "fly-by" on the Cards' bench. The post game interview was delayed slightly because Will was having a "chat" with Coach McShane.

Did anyone happen to see, during the "scrum" around the waved off goal, when Pelltier was taken down, in a headlock position? Go watch the replay; it happened. I'm not a homer with maroon colored glasses. Considering the kid just missed half the season recovering from a head injury, I think this probably contributed to his demeanor later on.

Additionally, I think celebration after the first Cardinal goal added some heat to the simmering tensions. Note that Pelletier mimicked the exact same move after his second goal. Coincidence?

Pelletier's move was pretty dickish, for sure. However, playing innocent is a bad look. The games are filmed, folks, and it doesn't lie.

Two good teams played a chippy contest. Wasn't the first time and won't be the last.

Like I said, a McShane teaching experience, nothing more nothing less...wouldn't expect anything less from him.. :rolleyes:
 
We certainly have some whiners in our ranks. But, I think it's more frustration. When you're excited to watch a hockey game, and are suddenly unable to do so, you get a little p***ed. My take is this, if you're going to broadcast it, it should work. Period, free or otherwise. It wasn't like last weekend's problems were a first.

And it wasn't like last weekend was the first time Norwich fans cried over a webcast...
 
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And it wasn't like last night was the first time Plattsburgh fans blamed the refs because they lost...

....great comeback :rolleyes:

btw (and I don't think this is directed at you Mr . Defense so I apologize ), giving someone a negative reputation point, whether you add comments or not, and don't sign them says a lot about your manhood lol. Not that I give a rats *** what you think, I just find hitting a rep button thingy and running is pretty much a sign of a pretty insecure human being who really needs to open the door from his parents basement and wash his stained whitey-tighties and turn off the lava lamp playing New Kids on the Block.....seriously, you want to rip, be a man and sign your name......
 
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You know its a good thread when you can read New Kids on the Block and dickish in the same rant. Wish we had the same intensity on the lake this year, but our defense is playing like Justin Bieber has their nuts..........
 
You know its a good thread when you can read New Kids on the Block and dickish in the same rant. Wish we had the same intensity on the lake this year, but our defense is playing like Justin Bieber has their nuts..........

Admitting more Canadians?
 
....great comeback :rolleyes:

btw (and I don't think this is directed at you Mr . Defense so I apologize ), giving someone a negative reputation point, whether you add comments or not, and don't sign them says a lot about your manhood lol. Not that I give a rats *** what you think, I just find hitting a rep button thingy and running is pretty much a sign of a pretty insecure human being who really needs to open the door from his parents basement and wash his stained whitey-tighties and turn off the lava lamp playing New Kids on the Block.....seriously, you want to rip, be a man and sign your name......

While portions of this post are ironic, this is the first thing I've agreed with you on. There may be hope yet! Frankly, IMO, anyone who does anything beyond typing their opinion/post, is a clown. Upvoting, downvoting, rep points, karma points, whatever. Just talk about hockey.
 
Re: Plattsburgh State Hockey 2015-16 - Bob's 27th work in progress ...

....great comeback :rolleyes:

btw (and I don't think this is directed at you Mr . Defense so I apologize ), giving someone a negative reputation point, whether you add comments or not, and don't sign them says a lot about your manhood lol. Not that I give a rats *** what you think, I just find hitting a rep button thingy and running is pretty much a sign of a pretty insecure human being who really needs to open the door from his parents basement and wash his stained whitey-tighties and turn off the lava lamp playing New Kids on the Block.....seriously, you want to rip, be a man and sign your name......

As Shaggy would say "it wasn't me" :)
 
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While portions of this post are ironic, this is the first thing I've agreed with you on. There may be hope yet! Frankly, IMO, anyone who does anything beyond typing their opinion/post, is a clown. Upvoting, downvoting, rep points, karma points, whatever. Just talk about hockey.

I am all for talk, agree or disagree (well intelligent that makes some sense). Even people like Fishman can create a good conversation piece. Nor do I care if you want to call me an A*****E to my face (errr post), but when you have to go anonymous it just gives you a good chuckle. There isn't a thing on here I've said that I wouldn't say to someone's face. Ask Princess Avery from Geneseo from years past.

and for what its worth, a penalty never causes a team a game (last I checked you still have to score a goal and therefor defend a goal), but a penalty can cause a momentum swing. Could the 5 minute major penalty, that IMO should have been called, given Plattsburgh a win? Heck no. For all we know Norwich kills it off and goes on to score 4 more anyways. Does Norwich not get that late 2nd period PP if Plattsburgh gets that 5 minute major call? Probably not. Do they go into the 3rd period tied? Probably not. Fact is Plattsburgh didn't get the 5 minute major call, got called soon after for their own "boarding" call, and the rest is history. No one is claiming the penalties put a goal on the board for Norwich. Momentum swing? You bet. Were calls missed both ways? Of course its hockey. I'm not sure I saw a blatant knee call missed on Plattsburgh however, but I wasn't really looking. That's kind of like arguing how the better team doesn't always win.....

As far as the Pelletier's "gloating", McShane may have ripped him a new one post game, but in 25+ years watching Bob I can GUARANTEE you had that been him Pelletier would NOT have been sitting on that bench. Why do I guarantee it? Because I've seen in. Trash talking to the crowd, ruffling the jersey to the crowd, jumping at the glass, sorry but not a big deal. When you deliberately skate by the opposing bench and continue to talk smack, and from what I was told was not the first time in the game things of such happened you're going to get that D.H. (use your imagination) name attached to you. What was said between the coaches in between them, but it was well documented on some of the feelings towards McShane after his "teaching experience" last season against Plattsburgh late in the game. I highly doubt there was a hit out on Pelletier as far as to go "if you see him grab his head and take him down in a scrum". That being said, in a game like Plattsburgh/Norwich with Norwich needing this game much much more than Plattsburgh, the emotion of the game was more than enough for the heated "celebrations" alone.
 
I am all for talk, agree or disagree (well intelligent that makes some sense). Even people like Fishman can create a good conversation piece. Nor do I care if you want to call me an A*****E to my face (errr post), but when you have to go anonymous it just gives you a good chuckle. There isn't a thing on here I've said that I wouldn't say to someone's face. Ask Princess Avery from Geneseo from years past.


and for what its worth, a penalty never causes a team a game (last I checked you still have to score a goal and therefor defend a goal), but a penalty can cause a momentum swing. Could the 5 minute major penalty, that IMO should have been called, given Plattsburgh a win? Heck no. For all we know Norwich kills it off and goes on to score 4 more anyways. Does Norwich not get that late 2nd period PP if Plattsburgh gets that 5 minute major call? Probably not. Do they go into the 3rd period tied? Probably not. Fact is Plattsburgh didn't get the 5 minute major call, got called soon after for their own "boarding" call, and the rest is history. No one is claiming the penalties put a goal on the board for Norwich. Momentum swing? You bet. Were calls missed both ways? Of course its hockey. I'm not sure I saw a blatant knee call missed on Plattsburgh however, but I wasn't really looking. That's kind of like arguing how the better team doesn't always win.....

As far as the Pelletier's "gloating", McShane may have ripped him a new one post game, but in 25+ years watching Bob I can GUARANTEE you had that been him Pelletier would NOT have been sitting on that bench. Why do I guarantee it? Because I've seen in. Trash talking to the crowd, ruffling the jersey to the crowd, jumping at the glass, sorry but not a big deal. When you deliberately skate by the opposing bench and continue to talk smack, and from what I was told was not the first time in the game things of such happened you're going to get that D.H. (use your imagination) name attached to you. What was said between the coaches in between them, but it was well documented on some of the feelings towards McShane after his "teaching experience" last season against Plattsburgh late in the game. I highly doubt there was a hit out on Pelletier as far as to go "if you see him grab his head and take him down in a scrum". That being said, in a game like Plattsburgh/Norwich with Norwich needing this game much much more than Plattsburgh, the emotion of the game was more than enough for the heated "celebrations" alone.

I don't disagree with much of what you said, nor did I in any way mean to insinuate that anyone was instructed to "take out" Pelletier. My only point was that it did happen, and it probably contributed to his attitude. I'm not really trying to defend his action. I am an old school guy and believe in letting your play do the talking.

It was a chippy game, both ways. Was Norwich "chippier"? Probably. I am a diehard Norwich fan, but I have seen our guys do things, over the years, which I didn't like. But, neither side could claim innocence. Anyone who tries to do that is lying to themselves.

Finally, I don't know if you suspect me or not (and I hope, deep down, you don't give a crap), but I don't do any of that Internet "hit" crap.
 
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In a game where Plattsburgh players were clearly trying to be physical and a bit chippy with Pelletier I don't blame him for going and saying 'whatsup' to the Plattsburgh side after 3 goals in one period. Call me new school or whatever you'd like, was it a 'D.H.' move? 100%! But far from the first one in that game.

And if we are getting into bad calls in that game we could close out this thread today. If you want to get into the 5 minute major argument and whether it should have been tied going into the third, I must ask...should it have been tied going into the second? In the scrum where Pelletier got thrown to the ice, Niezgoda jumped in and got the ONLY penalty...Plattsburgh scores on the PP. However every single scrum after that was matching penalties, even if one player clearly started the crap...one of the many zebra mysteries of the night.
 
In a game where Plattsburgh players were clearly trying to be physical and a bit chippy with Pelletier I don't blame him for going and saying 'whatsup' to the Plattsburgh side after 3 goals in one period. Call me new school or whatever you'd like, was it a 'D.H.' move? 100%! But far from the first one in that game.

And if we are getting into bad calls in that game we could close out this thread today. If you want to get into the 5 minute major argument and whether it should have been tied going into the third, I must ask...should it have been tied going into the second? In the scrum where Pelletier got thrown to the ice, Niezgoda jumped in and got the ONLY penalty...Plattsburgh scores on the PP. However every single scrum after that was matching penalties, even if one player clearly started the crap...one of the many zebra mysteries of the night.
Enough. Time to move on. We set our thoughts on The Panthers now.
 
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Enough. Time to move on. We set our thoughts on The Panthers now.

Speaking of the Panthers - tonight 1/12/2016 at the Stafford Ice Arena - they will try to stop the Lady Cardinal's Kevin Houle from getting his 300th win!

Kevin Houle's Women's Career Record (Entering 2015-2016): 287-42-22 (.849) (12 Seasons)

Emery's career record at Plattsburgh State when he got his 300th win (in 13 years) was 300-86-26.
 
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Good weekend test for the Cards. Can they break the recent Western Massachusetts hoo doo?
 
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