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Plattsburgh State Hockey 2010-11

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Great win for Geneseo, they are legit. Very hard working team. They capitalized on the Plattsburgh mistakes and never stopped working. Gershon wasn't highly tested. A lot of easy saves. Tho his temper tantrum was classic. Reminded me of the Walker days. Literally throwing his stick on the ground and jumping up and down in the air like a 4 year old.

I immediately thought back to the 05-06 seasons when you said this before I even saw you said Walker with the way you opened this sentence.

What you described is what Geneseo's teams were to a T during their back-to-back SUNYAC championship years. The Ice Knights are FOR REAL and the SUNYAC is no longer a two-horse race folks.

Geneseo should be ranked in the next poll but they probably won't be even though they swept Neumann and beat the #4 team in the poll.
 
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I immediately thought back to the 05-06 seasons when you said this before I even saw you said Walker with the way you opened this sentence.

What you described is what Geneseo's teams were to a T during their back-to-back SUNYAC championship years. The Ice Knights are FOR REAL and the SUNYAC is no longer a two-horse race folks.

Geneseo should be ranked in the next poll but they probably won't be even though they swept Neumann and beat the #4 team in the poll.

You can mark this post as the kiss of death for Geneseo's season :)
 
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Cardinals bounce back (Excerpts from the Plattsburgh Press-Republican 10/31/2010)

Everything wasn't quite back to normal for the Plattsburgh State men's hockey team Saturday night.

The Cardinals, bouncing back from Friday's season-opening 7-3 loss at Geneseo, did pepper Brockport goalie Oliver Wren with 56 shots on goal and skated to a 7-3 victory in State University of New York Athletic Conference play.

Cardinals' head coach Bob Emery, however, felt there was plenty of room for improvement.

"We came out with a win and the best thing about Friday's loss was having a game on Saturday," he said. "Our offense was good.

"But, we had a lot of veterans guys who didn't play great tonight. We're still turning the puck over too much in our own end. We still have a lot to learn. We'll go back to work on Monday and watch the tape."

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Defenseman Mike Grace added three assists and Eric Satim two in the victory.

Ryan Williams stopped 19 of 22 shots in the Plattsburgh State nets and Wren finished with 49 stops for the Golden Eagles.

"The first goal and the first win of the season is always the hardest," said Emery. "We're in a tough stretch in the season for us with four games in a row on the road.

"We have our work cut out for us — we have to get smarter in our own end."

The Cardinals return to the road this coming weekend to play Cortland on Friday at 7 p.m. and then tangle with defending SUNYAC champion Oswego on Saturday at 7 p.m.

In other SUNYAC games Saturday, Oswego skated to a 3-0 blanking of Fredonia, Geneseo was a 4-1 winner over Potsdam and Cortland edged Buffalo State, 4-3.
 
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Brockport not a very strong team. They did bounce back to 3 2. Think Platty coach turning back into pumpkin. goaltending has been a problem tjere for years especially in big games from what I can see. Oswego and Geneseo tops in SUNYs this year.;)
 
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I have decided being an avid cards fan that I'm going to post a brief preview of the Cards games since cardinalhockey.net has been stopped. I hope all of you enjoy and realize this is something I'm doing just as a hobby and not in anyway to replace Bill. Bill has done an absolutely wonderful job over the years and I know he is very busy.

Alright, so last weekend was obviously very dissapointing. However the Cards have a chance to erase that if they come out of this weekend with 4 points. As Emery mentioned on btb, the leadership group has really come together over the past week and did their absolute best to communicate with the team the importance of defense.
Last weekend and this upcoming weekend will be a huge learning curve for the team. They are facing adversity two games into the season and are headed over to arch rival Oswego saturday night. It is quite clear Oswego is the favorite in this game, however don't under estimate the Cards. There is alot of talent on this team! I expect Clarke and Satim to lead the way offensively this weekend. I think Jensen should be more comfortable now in his new surroundings and should start to light it up. Defense and goaltending is clearly a weakness for the Cards. It would be nice if one of the goalies can shine through this weekend and take over the reigns of being the "starter". As a team defense needs to be stronger. Oswego is going to come out firing on all cylinders and we need to be able to withstand the first 5-10 minutes of the game, and then bear down and grind them out Cardinal hockey style. As Emery mentioned they can't look past Cortland. Cortland is coming off of a victory against Buffalo State and we all know it's easy for any team to get up to play Plattsburgh.

Players to watch out for this weekend:
Jarrett Gold- Cortland
Corey John- Cortland

Justin Fox- Oswego
Jon Whitelaw- Oswego
Chris Laganiere- Oswego

Predictions:
Plattsburgh 6 Cortland 1
Plattsburgh 3 Oswego 3

LETS GO CARDS!!!
 
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Time Warner Cable Sports is picking up the WTOP broadcast from the Campus Center in Oswego LIVE Saturday night starting with the pre-game show at 6:30pm. TWCS 3 - digital channel 1027....
 
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your living in a dream

Honestly, if you think this is going to be an easy win, you're the one living in a dream. No match in this rivalry is ever going to be easy for either team. Ever.

I hate predicting Plattsburgh-Oswego games because both programs know how to win in the big games, and this is ALWAYS a "big game". Bottom line: as a fan, never enter a Cardinal-Laker game with any expectations of it going either way.

That said, if I HAD to make a prediction, I would think that Oswego is definitely performing better at this stage in the season, and so has a better chance to get the 2 SUNYAC points, which is why I have predicted it as such in the SUNYAC pickem thread
 
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I wouldn't doubt Oswego taggs five goals on Leis after 20 minutes of play. I can't believe Emery went with starting him in net...
 
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Unreal. Leis was god-freakin'-awful tonight. Both Oswego and Plattsburgh were toe to toe for most of the night; but we fell short because our goaltender is freakin' W-O-R-T-H-L-E-S-S. I hope Emery has enough sense to stop trusting Leis to carry the goaltending stick. He was off the wall all night.

We are in REAL trouble here in the 'Burgh for 2010-11. Our team is working on patching some serious holes, but the biggest thing we need to fix is in goaltending. We have no one we can rely upon, and to lose a game tonight due to goaltender nonsense is ridiculous. Hats off to most of the folks on the ice. Both Plattsburgh and Oswego played some great hockey. It was evident poor judgement from Leis would bite us in the hind end; and sure enough it did.
 
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Unreal. Leis was god-freakin'-awful tonight. Both Oswego and Plattsburgh were toe to toe for most of the night; but we fell short because our goaltender is freakin' W-O-R-T-H-L-E-S-S. I hope Emery has enough sense to stop trusting Leis to carry the goaltending stick. He was off the wall all night.

We are in REAL trouble here in the 'Burgh for 2010-11. Our team is working on patching some serious holes, but the biggest thing we need to fix is in goaltending. We have no one we can rely upon, and to lose a game tonight due to goaltender nonsense is ridiculous. Hats off to most of the folks on the ice. Both Plattsburgh and Oswego played some great hockey. It was evident poor judgement from Leis would bite us in the hind end; and sure enough it did.

No. Absolutely wrong.

No goaltender in DIII, even the best of the best DIII goaltenders, are going to make a save when your defensemen gives up the puck in the defensive, and you have a DI-quality (Boots was recruited by tOSU, was he not?) right in front of you, with the sense and discipline to fake you out and capitalize when you commit to that fake. That, my friend, was the game winner for Oswego.

Leimbrock's goal was probably the one Leis most likely could have saved, and even that was a great snipe that even the best goalies will let by from time-to-time. Personally, I thought Leis played pretty solid tonight. He made some awesome saves to keep this thing close, and handled the puck to perfection behind the net. Perhaps he over-committed on the Boots goal, but I really do think that the goals Oswego scored were more in recognition to the sense and discipline of Oswego's forwards that anything else.

I know you have some personal issue with Leis, you did all last year too, but to tag this all on Leis is ridiculous. Plattsburgh often struggled to get the puck out of their zone, and all but Leimbrock's goal were the direct result of blatant errors by the team in front of Leis. Maybe Hince could have pulled this one out... we'll never know... but I really think you need to get over your issue with Leis and accept that a DIII team - even a top-quality DIII team- will never have a hockey god in between the pipes.
 
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No. Absolutely wrong.
I know you have some personal issue with Leis, you did all last year too, but to tag this all on Leis is ridiculous. Plattsburgh often struggled to get the puck out of their zone, and all but Leimbrock's goal were the direct result of blatant errors by the team in front of Leis. Maybe Hince could have pulled this one out... we'll never know... but I really think you need to get over your issue with Leis and accept that a DIII team - even a top-quality DIII team- will never have a hockey god in between the pipes.

Agreed.

Goaltending did not cost PSU this game. Poor defensive play did.
 
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No. Absolutely wrong.

No goaltender in DIII, even the best of the best DIII goaltenders, are going to make a save when your defensemen gives up the puck in the defensive, and you have a DI-quality (Boots was recruited by tOSU, was he not?) right in front of you, with the sense and discipline to fake you out and capitalize when you commit to that fake. That, my friend, was the game winner for Oswego.


Leimbrock's goal was probably the one Leis most likely could have saved, and even that was a great snipe that even the best goalies will let by from time-to-time. Personally, I thought Leis played pretty solid tonight. He made some awesome saves to keep this thing close, and handled the puck to perfection behind the net. Perhaps he over-committed on the Boots goal, but I really do think that the goals Oswego scored were more in recognition to the sense and discipline of Oswego's forwards that anything else.

I know you have some personal issue with Leis, you did all last year too, but to tag this all on Leis is ridiculous. Plattsburgh often struggled to get the puck out of their zone, and all but Leimbrock's goal were the direct result of blatant errors by the team in front of Leis. Maybe Hince could have pulled this one out... we'll never know... but I really think you need to get over your issue with Leis and accept that a DIII team - even a top-quality DIII team- will never have a hockey god in between the pipes.

100% agree
 
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From what I saw, goal tending wasn't the problem, lousy defense was. On the third goal it could be said that Leis coulda,shoulda stopped it, but when you're D lets a guy come down the wing alone, it ain't fair. On the winning goal, he was totally hung out to dry by his D. He should sue for non-support..
 
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Defense is a team concept. If the forwards aren't in position to get the puck out or the bobble the breakout passes it's not always the d's fault. Also it's the 21st century doesn't platty have a goaltending coach. The days of leavuing the goalie in the corner are long over. Technique is the name of the game today, it's why no name goalies come up big in the Stanley Cup playoffs.
 
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No. Absolutely wrong.

No goaltender in DIII, even the best of the best DIII goaltenders, are going to make a save when your defensemen gives up the puck in the defensive, and you have a DI-quality (Boots was recruited by tOSU, was he not?) right in front of you, with the sense and discipline to fake you out and capitalize when you commit to that fake. That, my friend, was the game winner for Oswego.

Leimbrock's goal was probably the one Leis most likely could have saved, and even that was a great snipe that even the best goalies will let by from time-to-time. Personally, I thought Leis played pretty solid tonight. He made some awesome saves to keep this thing close, and handled the puck to perfection behind the net. Perhaps he over-committed on the Boots goal, but I really do think that the goals Oswego scored were more in recognition to the sense and discipline of Oswego's forwards that anything else.

I know you have some personal issue with Leis, you did all last year too, but to tag this all on Leis is ridiculous. Plattsburgh often struggled to get the puck out of their zone, and all but Leimbrock's goal were the direct result of blatant errors by the team in front of Leis. Maybe Hince could have pulled this one out... we'll never know... but I really think you need to get over your issue with Leis and accept that a DIII team - even a top-quality DIII team- will never have a hockey god in between the pipes.

Excellent post. Taco Rob, were you even at the game tonight? I was. I saw Leis play very well. Like was said several times here, that third goal, he probably should have made that save, but I am not expecting Leis to pitch any shutouts in net, especially against Oswego. See, your problem is you are too SPOILED watching Hince for two years. You need to face reality. The team cannot play lackluster defense in front of Leis and expect him to bail them out.
 
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I agree that Leis played well tonight, I have been more of a Williams fan but even if you have Ryan Miller in net you allow a guy to be alone in the slot 5-6 times in one game and allow a clean pass to get to him you are gonna lose the game. I missed most of the first period but did see the great glove save that Leis made on Moodie on the breakaway. My hats off to Oswego, but they seem to be the same team as last year taking a lot of bad penalties that really cause this game to rock back and forth. My only problem with Oswego is with their coach who is bringing a win now attitude, which is fine but could hurt the program in the future. By bringing in these transfers he could hurt the program more than help it. I could see 1 or 2 every couple of years but he seems to bring 2-4 every year. That well could dry up and from the past 2 recruiting classes I have seen 3-4 players and the rest have been fill in's once in a while. This could hurt recruiting because players come in to play not to watch and if this program starts to suffer the rivalry could also start to suffer.
 
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I know I'm on the wrong side of this, to you guys, but let me give you a little insight from the Oswego side. Leis played great. He made several key stops when the game was at 2-0, and other spots, just to keep the game within reach. There didn't seem to be anything wrong with him. Overall, I think the game was played pretty tight. Both teams missed some opportunities that maybe they wouldn't late in the season. The second period seemed like both teams were just trying to avoid mistakes. The play was not very aggressive in that frame. A lot of the issues you think the Cardinals had, we felt Oswego had the same issues. But it came down to lack of coverage in a key moment of the game, and the puck landed on the stick of maybe the best skilled player on the ice. Boots knew what he was doing, and no DIII goalie was gonna keep up on that shot. Good game, exciting beginning and end with a so-so middle. Looking forward to the next chapter.
 
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