Grim Reaper
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Re: Plattsburgh State 2010
I totally agree Spike.......well said.....and more power to Platty!!
I totally agree Spike.......well said.....and more power to Platty!!
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Plattsburgh State 2010
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Re: Plattsburgh State 2010
Or maybe, just maybe, these "so-called" DI transfers were recruited but were lied to by the coaches that recruited them......Maybe they were promised things that never happened. Maybe they were tired of working their a**es off and never getting anything in return.
Coaches need to be honest with the 16 and 17 year old kids they are recruiting....blowing smoke is really not cool, especially when you only have four years to play college hockey.
Or maybe, just maybe, these "so-called" DI transfers were recruited but were lied to by the coaches that recruited them......Maybe they were promised things that never happened. Maybe they were tired of working their a**es off and never getting anything in return.
Coaches need to be honest with the 16 and 17 year old kids they are recruiting....blowing smoke is really not cool, especially when you only have four years to play college hockey.
Re: Plattsburgh State 2010
My point was that girls who appear on D1 rosters but don't dress/don't play really aren't "recruited". If some of those girls were lied to about playing time, shame on those coaches, but for purposes of this thread's discussion I would still treat those girls as if they were not recruited. Looking at the BTD commitments list, schools that confirmed their incoming class are in green. When I scroll through the list I see 10 or more names at various schools that appear in black, not green. Do those girls know what they are in store for, or were they misled? Topic for another thread perhaps?
Or maybe, just maybe, these "so-called" DI transfers were recruited but were lied to by the coaches that recruited them......Maybe they were promised things that never happened. Maybe they were tired of working their a**es off and never getting anything in return.
Coaches need to be honest with the 16 and 17 year old kids they are recruiting....blowing smoke is really not cool, especially when you only have four years to play college hockey.
My point was that girls who appear on D1 rosters but don't dress/don't play really aren't "recruited". If some of those girls were lied to about playing time, shame on those coaches, but for purposes of this thread's discussion I would still treat those girls as if they were not recruited. Looking at the BTD commitments list, schools that confirmed their incoming class are in green. When I scroll through the list I see 10 or more names at various schools that appear in black, not green. Do those girls know what they are in store for, or were they misled? Topic for another thread perhaps?
Looney4Hockey
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Re: Plattsburgh State 2010
Interestingly, both Plattsburgh and Elmira are getting a transfer from the same D-1 team this year. Does that cancel out?
My daughter has always pointed out to me that there are different bands of players at the D-1 Level, with the lowest band being those players that ride the bench most the time but at the D-3 level are terrific. Sometimes players have to find the level that works best for them!
Interestingly, both Plattsburgh and Elmira are getting a transfer from the same D-1 team this year. Does that cancel out?
My daughter has always pointed out to me that there are different bands of players at the D-1 Level, with the lowest band being those players that ride the bench most the time but at the D-3 level are terrific. Sometimes players have to find the level that works best for them!
dontyelldad
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Re: Plattsburgh State 2010
An interesting take on this topic (kinda) can be found in the book, Be Quick But Don't Hurry, which in part is a memoir of a basketball player who was recruited to play for the recently deceased John Wooden's UCLA Bruins in the mid-60's. Recruited, but never broke the starting lineup on teams that won consecutive championships, leading to resentment that lasted for years. Only many years later, after he appreciated the life lessons that Coach Wooden taught his players, did the author reconcile with Coach.
That said, there are players who would rather get lots of ice time on a mediocre team than watch their teamates play on an elite team. Vice versa, as well, I'm sure.
An interesting take on this topic (kinda) can be found in the book, Be Quick But Don't Hurry, which in part is a memoir of a basketball player who was recruited to play for the recently deceased John Wooden's UCLA Bruins in the mid-60's. Recruited, but never broke the starting lineup on teams that won consecutive championships, leading to resentment that lasted for years. Only many years later, after he appreciated the life lessons that Coach Wooden taught his players, did the author reconcile with Coach.
That said, there are players who would rather get lots of ice time on a mediocre team than watch their teamates play on an elite team. Vice versa, as well, I'm sure.
Re: Plattsburgh State 2010
I guess we are splitting hairs about the term "recruited"...my definition of "recruited" is that the coach contacts the player, the school pays for an official visit and promises a certain amount of playing time or position on the team. Most DI programs rarely take a true "walk on"...a player that was never contacted or promised anything...there is simply too much talent out there to do that. I happen to know a couple of the Platty transfers and trust me...they were recruited (my definition)
, and promised things that never happened. Hence the reason for the transfer. What cracks me up about this whole conversation is that some people on here assume that it's the players ability or lack thereof prompting the transfer..... I am going back to my original post, maybe the fault lies with the coaching staff, and not the player. It's not toally out of the realm of possibilities.
I guess we are splitting hairs about the term "recruited"...my definition of "recruited" is that the coach contacts the player, the school pays for an official visit and promises a certain amount of playing time or position on the team. Most DI programs rarely take a true "walk on"...a player that was never contacted or promised anything...there is simply too much talent out there to do that. I happen to know a couple of the Platty transfers and trust me...they were recruited (my definition)
, and promised things that never happened. Hence the reason for the transfer. What cracks me up about this whole conversation is that some people on here assume that it's the players ability or lack thereof prompting the transfer..... I am going back to my original post, maybe the fault lies with the coaching staff, and not the player. It's not toally out of the realm of possibilities.dogwatcher
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Re: Plattsburgh State 2010
Nice point coach can be wrong at times. It also could be that the school is not the right fit. Remember that the players are students first and hockey players next. As far coach Houle goes who cares why they called him ( my opinion he has probably talked to them first time around and left a good impression) . The important part of this whole thing is that the girls get a good education and enjoy their time at the school reguardless of how the hockey turns out.
I guess we are splitting hairs about the term "recruited"...my definition of "recruited" is that the coach contacts the player, the school pays for an official visit and promises a certain amount of playing time or position on the team. Most DI programs rarely take a true "walk on"...a player that was never contacted or promised anything...there is simply too much talent out there to do that. I happen to know a couple of the Platty transfers and trust me...they were recruited (my definition)
Nice point coach can be wrong at times. It also could be that the school is not the right fit. Remember that the players are students first and hockey players next. As far coach Houle goes who cares why they called him ( my opinion he has probably talked to them first time around and left a good impression) . The important part of this whole thing is that the girls get a good education and enjoy their time at the school reguardless of how the hockey turns out.
Re: Plattsburgh State 2010
I know that one of these transfers was recruited by a D1 college and received a scholorship but the recruiting coach left and a new staff hired. She was never given a chance with the new staff and therefore decided to find somewhere else. The whole experience has been difficult.
I know that one of these transfers was recruited by a D1 college and received a scholorship but the recruiting coach left and a new staff hired. She was never given a chance with the new staff and therefore decided to find somewhere else. The whole experience has been difficult.
Re: Plattsburgh State 2010
where have you level-headed people been all my life! how refreshing to see some insightful, useful opinion on this topic instead of childish banter. and finally some people who realize that it's not just the players, its the coaches. stuff happens. things are said. its hard to follow through on 21 promises. and so, you transfer to another high-quality institution in the U.S. -- let's put our DI and DIII glasses aside for a second and just be happy for the girls to get the opportunity to keep playing the game they love...after all, isn't that the reason we are members of this forum to begin with? because we all love hockey?
where have you level-headed people been all my life! how refreshing to see some insightful, useful opinion on this topic instead of childish banter. and finally some people who realize that it's not just the players, its the coaches. stuff happens. things are said. its hard to follow through on 21 promises. and so, you transfer to another high-quality institution in the U.S. -- let's put our DI and DIII glasses aside for a second and just be happy for the girls to get the opportunity to keep playing the game they love...after all, isn't that the reason we are members of this forum to begin with? because we all love hockey?
SeymoreHockey
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Re: Plattsburgh State 2010
Atta boy Trots!! I agree. We need to get the season going though...so we have something a little more legit to talk about!!!
Atta boy Trots!! I agree. We need to get the season going though...so we have something a little more legit to talk about!!!
Re: Plattsburgh State 2010
I agree, lets put this to rest, and let the girls' performance on the ice speak for itself-tranfer, freshman or returning player. I must say however that Coach Houle must know a thing or two about recruiting, he seems to get quality players on a consistent basis, and whether or not the recruiting occurred last year, or two or three years ago, hats off to him! October 31st cannot get here quick enough for me!!! Go Platty
I agree, lets put this to rest, and let the girls' performance on the ice speak for itself-tranfer, freshman or returning player. I must say however that Coach Houle must know a thing or two about recruiting, he seems to get quality players on a consistent basis, and whether or not the recruiting occurred last year, or two or three years ago, hats off to him! October 31st cannot get here quick enough for me!!! Go Platty
Re: Plattsburgh State 2010
Now that the transfers are coming into Plattsburgh I love how the faithful have changed their tune about girls transferring from program to another program. I remember a couple years ago you guys were singing a different song. I guess its ok for players to transfer into Platty when they aren't getting playing time or the school isn't the right fit or for financial reasons. But when players transfer out of Platty for those same reasons you guys belittle them and are completely classes when they play against Plattsburgh.
To the players going to plattsburgh this year...good luck...honestly. It's your four years to play and go to school. You've made your decision and it's no ones business but your own.
Now that the transfers are coming into Plattsburgh I love how the faithful have changed their tune about girls transferring from program to another program. I remember a couple years ago you guys were singing a different song. I guess its ok for players to transfer into Platty when they aren't getting playing time or the school isn't the right fit or for financial reasons. But when players transfer out of Platty for those same reasons you guys belittle them and are completely classes when they play against Plattsburgh.
To the players going to plattsburgh this year...good luck...honestly. It's your four years to play and go to school. You've made your decision and it's no ones business but your own.
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playing time was not a concern in that situation with the goalie exception...and it was coming off a championship year...i don't see a fair comparison
playing time was not a concern in that situation with the goalie exception...and it was coming off a championship year...i don't see a fair comparison
Re: Plattsburgh State 2010
Exactly what I said before. There are many reasons for transferring. The School might not be the right fit or they don't agree while coaching philosophy's or financial....what ever it is, transferring in or out is their decision. But in this case they are coming in and that makes it ok in your eyes.
I see a fair comparison.
Exactly what I said before. There are many reasons for transferring. The School might not be the right fit or they don't agree while coaching philosophy's or financial....what ever it is, transferring in or out is their decision. But in this case they are coming in and that makes it ok in your eyes.
I see a fair comparison.
THE Icemom
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Re: Plattsburgh State 2010
Good luck to all the girls playing hockey in the 2010-2011 year whether they be D1 or D3. You have achieved that goal you set for yourself a long time ago, pat yourselves on the back, you did it!
Good luck to all the girls playing hockey in the 2010-2011 year whether they be D1 or D3. You have achieved that goal you set for yourself a long time ago, pat yourselves on the back, you did it!
Re: Plattsburgh State 2010
hey those transfers were before my time anyway. i agree with you though. i never said them transferring to RIT was wrong, I just said it didn't seem comparable.
hey those transfers were before my time anyway. i agree with you though. i never said them transferring to RIT was wrong, I just said it didn't seem comparable.
5 4 Fighting
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Re: Plattsburgh State 2010
Trot's and all the levelheads out there..I do find it odd that everyone is getting all weepy-eyed cause the D1 transfers now have a place to play and finish out their remaining years playing the game they love..and that's a beautiful thing. With Platty carrying 25 last year, losing 3 to graduation and bringing in six (6) D1's, I wonder who will weep for the existing players that will get displaced due to all of this. Unfortunatley the reality of it is... they have nowhere to go.
Seriously does the snowball effect that's happening here start rolling at D1 with the promise of a 1/2 or even 2/4 and we'll see how you do?
I know if I ever had that deal on the table...I'd run for the hills.
Obviously some jump at it.
Trot's and all the levelheads out there..I do find it odd that everyone is getting all weepy-eyed cause the D1 transfers now have a place to play and finish out their remaining years playing the game they love..and that's a beautiful thing. With Platty carrying 25 last year, losing 3 to graduation and bringing in six (6) D1's, I wonder who will weep for the existing players that will get displaced due to all of this. Unfortunatley the reality of it is... they have nowhere to go.
Seriously does the snowball effect that's happening here start rolling at D1 with the promise of a 1/2 or even 2/4 and we'll see how you do?
I know if I ever had that deal on the table...I'd run for the hills.
Obviously some jump at it.
SeymoreHockey
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Re: Plattsburgh State 2010
Oh, don't get me started on this one. There was soooo much drama going on behind the scenes in this case...especially by one individual who continuously slagged Platty after leaving...even though she was a mainstay in every game. It got totally ridiculous...on both sides of the fence I might add...but that's history. Thank GOODNESS!! Good luck to all and "let's get ready to rumblllle..." Looking for some great hockey from Platty this year!!
Oh, don't get me started on this one. There was soooo much drama going on behind the scenes in this case...especially by one individual who continuously slagged Platty after leaving...even though she was a mainstay in every game. It got totally ridiculous...on both sides of the fence I might add...but that's history. Thank GOODNESS!! Good luck to all and "let's get ready to rumblllle..."
Looking for some great hockey from Platty this year!!
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Oh, don't get me started on this one. There was soooo much drama going on behind the scenes in this case...especially by one individual who continuously slagged Platty after leaving...even though she was a mainstay in every game. It got totally ridiculous...on both sides of the fence I might add...but that's history. Thank GOODNESS!! Good luck to all and "let's get ready to rumblllle..."
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SeymoreHockey
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Re: Plattsburgh State 2010
Just responded...great work!!
Get ready for the Alumni Game...should be a real barn burner...
check ur rep
Just responded...great work!!
Get ready for the Alumni Game...should be a real barn burner...