Plans for UConn hockey outdoor game

[Patman]

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Please, UConn lost the ability to use the "class card" when I saw a 10 year old kid get beer poured on him at Rentawreck Stadiium at a Uconn football game. UConn makes West Virginia fans look like Harvard fans.

Nothing personal, but UConn is a joke.

What's your point? You think I go around defending UConn fans for the stupid **** they do?

 

[CHFAN222]

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Learn the facts. BC, Miami, and Tech bailed once the Big East wanted to go to a 16 team megaconference by bringing in academic scum like Louisville.

So how you justify UConn's desire to bail on the Big East now? I guess its ok for UConn to do whats best for them but not BC?

The Big East right now is dieing because of that raid. They have had a few good years but it won't last unless a major reorganization happens aka a football bball schools split and adding in the likes of either Memphis, ECU, UMASS, Bufallo, or another school but that is a whole other can of worms.

BC bailed because they thought the ACC TV contract in conjunction with ACC title game would be a cash cow for them similar to the SEC. Say what you will but the move has killed the potential to have strong football rivalries with UCONN and a revived Rutgers program which is a dam shame given the close proximity between the schools.

Also the reason the Big 10 is putting Rutgers ahead of UCONN has to do with the fact that Rutgers has a bigger stadium, is in a bigger market, and their mens basketball program represents less of a threat to their basketball programs.

 

[Slasher7]

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The Big East right now is dieing because of that raid. They have had a few good years but it won't last unless a major reorganization happens aka a football bball schools split and adding in the likes of either Memphis, ECU, UMASS, Bufallo, or another school but that is a whole other can of worms.

BC bailed because they thought the ACC TV contract in conjunction with ACC title game would be a cash cow for them similar to the SEC. Say what you will but the move has killed the potential to have strong football rivalries with UCONN and a revived Rutgers program which is a dam shame given the close proximity between the schools.

Also the reason the Big 10 is putting Rutgers ahead of UCONN has to do with the fact that Rutgers has a bigger stadium, is in a bigger market, and their mens basketball program represents less of a threat to their basketball programs.

Are you kidding? Dying because of that raid? The Big East is dying because they grew too quick and added sleazeball schools like USF and Louisville. BC left because of many reasons, money and conference stability being the biggest two. Clearly they made the right choice.

 

[Nick Papagiorgio]

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The Big East right now is dieing because of that raid. They have had a few good years but it won't last unless a major reorganization happens aka a football bball schools split and adding in the likes of either Memphis, ECU, UMASS, Bufallo, or another school but that is a whole other can of worms.

The Big East is dieing because its leaders (Tranghese) lacked vision when it was needed and sat idle with the current configuration, which is untenable on the long term as you seem to agree it will split.

BC bailed because they thought the ACC TV contract in conjunction with ACC title game would be a cash cow for them similar to the SEC. Say what you will but the move has killed the potential to have strong football rivalries with UCONN and a revived Rutgers program which is a dam shame given the close proximity between the schools.

BC bailed for a lot of reasons. Tranghese killed the conference. He was an idiot and did not address issues that had to be addressed and 3 teams left because of it. The ACC offered more money regardless of the the ACC title game's success/failure. As you can see, it has not had huge crowds because small schools like BC and Wake have made it and yet these 12 teams are all still rolling in the dough. A May 30th article on stltoday (www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/mizz ou/story/16C191C6324DF9B58625773100816964?OpenDocu ment) indicates some interesting quotes from ACC Commissioner John Swofford about what was expected in terms of projected revenues.

The potential for a rivalry with Uconn... I don't know why people get so hung up over it but for the next decade BC's rivalry game is going to be Syracuse. Much better option for BC than Uconn. BC has created some great rivalries with Clemson, FSU, and VT in the last 5 years. But people get hung up on who the "official" rival is, having to be close to each other, etc. that this type of talk comes from the Nutmeg State quite a bit because their Border War with Rutgers flamed out (even though they don't border each other... logic never reigned supreme in the Big East!). Rutgers meanwhile, might be a "revived" program but they would still be a nobody if the expansion didn't allow them to shed 3 sure losses every year. The same could probably be said for Uconn.

Also the reason the Big 10 is putting Rutgers ahead of UCONN has to do with the fact that Rutgers has a bigger stadium, is in a bigger market, and their mens basketball program represents less of a threat to their basketball programs.

It's all about the NYC market. And that's the only reason. Otherwise, Uconn is a more attractive option because of the basketball programs adding a lot of prestige to the Big Ten hoops side (the football programs are about equal and stadium size isn't an issue).

 

[Slasher7]

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The funniest part of the lawsuit was when Richard "War Hero" Blumenthal said BC leaving would hurt UConn's athletic program. I dont remember it ever being BC's responsibility to ensure a good athletic program for UConn.

 

[Slasher7]

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Also the reason the Big 10 is putting Rutgers ahead of UCONN has to do with the fact that Rutgers has a bigger stadium, is in a bigger market, and their mens basketball program represents less of a threat to their basketball programs.

The Big 10 wants the NY Market, it has nothing to do with a bigger stadium, etc.

 

[sterlippo1]

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BC, whether you like them or not, is the preeminent program in the nation right now. It would take a national program to make something like that a success, especially since BC is also local to the area.

in response to Patman someone earlier mentioned BC and it kind of snowballed from there. why did he mention BC? your post answers that, it is THE preeminent hockey program in the country

 

[sterlippo1]

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Hahahahahahaha. Yea, they are real jerks for leaving a terribly run conference for a better one.

Did you read recently about the ridiculous television contract that the ACC has just secured with ESPN? Meanwhile, the Big East is worried about getting poached again and disintegrating in football. Maybe they can join with the MAC football conference and become the Big Mac if McDonald's is ok with the copyright infringement.

The state of Connecticut really had a fantastic month of May comeuppance.

- ACC signs reported deal with ESPN for television rights (12 years, 1.86 billion... or 155M a year). Higher than was projected weeks earlier.
- Big Ten rumors swirl and Uconn could be left behind for RUTGERS (yes, RUTGERS!). Meanwhile Uconn is absolutely dying to jump ship from the Big East, which is funny since they sued some people for doing that.
- CT AG Dickie Blumenthal gets destroyed for lying about serving in Vietnam. He was the main dbag in the Big East/Uconn lawsuit.
- Uconn hoops and their dbag coach get slammed with NCAA violations. And the best part is that the Chair for the NCAA's Committee on Infractions is none other than Miami's former AD Paul Dee (sued by Uconn). God Bless America!

I love it! nice job Nick

 

[Slasher7]

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Hahahahahahaha. Yea, they are real jerks for leaving a terribly run conference for a better one.

Did you read recently about the ridiculous television contract that the ACC has just secured with ESPN? Meanwhile, the Big East is worried about getting poached again and disintegrating in football. Maybe they can join with the MAC football conference and become the Big Mac if McDonald's is ok with the copyright infringement.

The state of Connecticut really had a fantastic month of May comeuppance.

- ACC signs reported deal with ESPN for television rights (12 years, 1.86 billion... or 155M a year). Higher than was projected weeks earlier.
- Big Ten rumors swirl and Uconn could be left behind for RUTGERS (yes, RUTGERS!). Meanwhile Uconn is absolutely dying to jump ship from the Big East, which is funny since they sued some people for doing that.
- CT AG Dickie Blumenthal gets destroyed for lying about serving in Vietnam. He was the main dbag in the Big East/Uconn lawsuit.
- Uconn hoops and their dbag coach get slammed with NCAA violations. And the best part is that the Chair for the NCAA's Committee on Infractions is none other than Miami's former AD Paul Dee (sued by Uconn). God Bless America!

This post should have ended right here. Nick's post here is the verbal equivilent of the movie "Mommie Dearest".

Thanks for playing along, UConn, please pick up your jockstrap and some valuable parting gifts at the door. If a UConn hoopster hasn't stolen your laptop, you can post about said parting gift here. Enjoy!

 

[slurpees]

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Learn the facts. BC, Miami, and Tech bailed once the Big East wanted to go to a 16 team megaconference by bringing in academic scum like Louisville.

Learn the facts, this statement is 100% wrong. The five teams added were replacements after the other three left. And also, learn how to use the multi-quote button.

 

[Slasher7]

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What's your point? You think I go around defending UConn fans for the stupid **** they do?

Maybe you do, who knows. Either way, UConn fans are the scum of the Earth. (Ironically, i'm going to the baseball regionals in Norwich and will likely root for the Huskies anyways).

 

[Slasher7]

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Learn the facts, this statement is 100% wrong. The five teams added were replacements after the other three left. And also, learn how to use the multi-quote button.

Do your homework, Fanboy. BC knew the Big East was planning a 16 team mega-conference after VT and Miami left. It was then the die was cast that BC would leave because they wanted no part of it once they heard the schools they were considering.

http://www.bc.edu/bc_org/rvp/pubaf/chronicle/v12/o17/qa.html

"Fr. Leahy: Let me go back to July. The presidents of Big East football schools at a meeting in Newark on July 9 voted unanimously to accept a recommendation from their directors of athletics that an 8-9 school, all-sports conference be established. But within a few weeks, I learned that the other presidents no longer were committed to the 8-9 school concept, but wanted to expand to a conference of 16 institutions. I opposed such a plan on numerous occasions because 14 schools in the conference had not worked and therefore going to 16 institutions seemed to only worsen the problem.

In late September, the NCAA championships cabinet voted against allowing the ACC to hold a football championship game with only 11 schools. Press reports then suggested that this would cause the ACC to consider adding a 12th team, and speculation began that BC would be invited to join.

On Oct. 1, the Big East subcommittee working on reorganizing the conference met in Newark, and I told the group that given stories in the press and because of my continued unhappiness with the proposed league structure, I intended to find out if the ACC was in fact interested in BC, and then make a decision. I also said that I realized the Big East needed to know soon about BC's status so that the Conference could complete restructuring plans for action at the Nov. 4 meeting of league presidents.

On Oct. 12, we received and accepted an invitation to become a member of the ACC."

 

[Nick Papagiorgio]

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Pure fanboy ownage. Have a nice summer, slurpees.

 

[SteveF]

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i dont know the initial reason for BC's desire to leave the big east. obviously, many have been named and they all probably weighed in the decision. the principle of revenue sharing from the bowl games alone should have been enough of incentive to bolt from the big east's system.

after the initial politics that left BC and Cuse on the outside looking in (in favor of Notre Dame and VT), BC was thoroughly committed to making the new big east work. They even went so far as to enact a $5 million dollar penalty to the next team that left the conference (ironically enough, it was them), all prior to the talk of adding teams from C-USA.

that final straw of adding new teams, which cemented the big east as a basketball first conference, was ultimately what lead BC back to the ACC. (along with notre dame's outright rejection of conference affliation, leaving the ACC one team short of a championship game)

Umm UCONN isn't the a-hole in that case. BC, Miami, and V-Tech are the a-holes.

i guess you can add syracuse to the list of villians too, since they wanted out first but got vetoed at the last minute opening the door for VT to sneak in...

the same VT who had at the time was still co-carrying the lawsuit flag against BC, Cuse, and Miami.

 

[RSTuthill]

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Not sure how we got off on BC, since they are basically irrelevant now -- with the exception of men's ice hockey at which they are very very good.

Someone asked why UConn doesn't emphasize men's hockey any more than it does. Our "experts" forgot to mention the fact that UConn takes gender equity very seriously. Thus 18 rides for men's hockey means adding 36 rides overall; and a business case for doing that has not been identified. Yup, it really does come down to money, as well off as UConn seemingly is.

 

[MarkEagleUSA]

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Thus 18 rides for men's hockey means adding 36 rides overall

Doesn't Atlantic Hockey limit scholarships to 12 (not that it makes it any more "affordable")?

 

[mar7967]

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Doesn't Atlantic Hockey limit scholarships to 12 (not that it makes it any more "affordable")?

Yes, AHA does have a scholarship limit. I do believe it is 12 but i could be wrong.

 

[Onion Man]

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Our "experts" forgot to mention the fact that UConn takes gender equity very seriously.

Is this why they allow shemales to play women's basketball in Storrs?

 

[RSTuthill]

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Doesn't Atlantic Hockey limit scholarships to 12 (not that it makes it any more "affordable")?

Not much of a business case for 24 rides and staying in the AHA. Might as well give 36 and switch to Hockey East. But I doubt even that would be a money maker.

 

[CHFAN222]

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Not much of a business case for 24 rides and staying in the AHA. Might as well give 36 and switch to Hockey East. But I doubt even that would be a money maker.

UCONN does not meet standards to join HE. Any school that currently wants to join Hockey East must have an arena with a a capacity of over 5000. This was imposed after UVM joined and grandfathered in current members. UCONN would have to do one of three things A) modify gampel pavilion to have an ice rink and I don't know if that is possible, B) play at the Xcel center in Hartford (it works for football but would not work for hockey) C) build a new areana which is probably their only option.