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PHF Purchased, Teams to Be Folded Into New PWHPA League

I'd be willing to bet that the non-gate revenue for the league amounts (and will in the future) to very little additional revenue. As reference, all other non-NHL leagues are very heavily gate-dependent for revenue. Even the NHL has a large gate component. Their TV contracts are no where on the level of the NFL, NBA, etc. The finances of this league is no different than before. The only way this league stays afloat with the expenses they have is a deep-pocketed benefactor of some kind. How long they are willing to fund for whatever return they are expecting is to be seen. As so well documented above, those salaries far exceed what anyone in the ECHL makes, and is even good for a lot of AHL players. Those leagues draw on average about 4000 fans a game, and even with that, a lot of ECHL teams operate at a loss (it is more of a vanity project for the owner than an actual business).

Agree they need a deep pocketed benefactor, and as resident wishful thinker I feel comfortable they have that for 8 years. :-)

Im excited to see though the sponsorship dollars. I think there is tremendous potential there considering a few different things. Wnba revenue has doubled since 2019, now at about $200 million per year according to JWS. Arnone ‘s comments raise eye brows as well, ESG push may generate some dollars. I also just look at my own middle class household - my 9 year old asked me the other day if there was major league for softball; this morning she sat down and watched the World Cup for 20 minutes before starting her day….I also see how when she gets exposed to pro/national team/high school girl athletes she inevitably writes about it in her school journals, draws pictures about it or sets goals for herself! It is amazing and valuable. There has got to be some opportunity there for investors.

2 things I think a new pro hockey league needs to do to be different than the past:

1- get womens sports into the ESG conversation. There is consulting and lectures every day across the business world about this. They present about inclusivity related to race/gender/sexual orientation /disabilities….and they do sort of tie it to tangible actions companies can take but women’s sport needs to find a way to get supporting women’s sport included as a tangible action. What I see is well meaning companies sending their women to generic “women’s conferences.” It’s well intentioned but for me personally it’s more impactful to simply immerse myself in women’s sport fandom, a landscape that centers, celebrates, and gives a platform and voice to women and men who support women. Women’s sport is rich with bold, intelligent, ambitious, generous and innovative people…it’s healthy and Entertaining to be exposed to, imo.

2- Every kid, especially the girls, enrolled in USA Hockey and Hockey Canada needs to know about this league. There is no way on earth they all knew about the PHF or other leagues. It’s a major source of lost revenue and detrimental to the kids who don’t have visible role models. Almost 200,000 girls and women in the 2 federations. There’s a potential for millions of dollars in revenue in that crowd right there, if the various parties can work together. Not everyone will live near a women’s pro team but when I was a kid I didn’t live near an nhl team and I still had nhl sheets, hat, poster, books, jersey, movies, cards, read about the Canucks in the paper, and saw hockey on tv every Saturday night. There has got to be a way on the women’s side to get visible and generate revenue. If the federations and pro league worked together (like what the federations and NHL do) it would be win win.


So, definitely think a deep pocketed benefactor is necessary . But it’s an exciting time in womens hockey for sure. Women’s World Cup is 2 days in and already breaking attendance records. The next month will provide a ton of commentary on women’s sport, hockey would be so foolish to think nah, we can’t be part of that positive change.
 
Here is a quick update on signings in Europe since the PHF sale. Now four players who were signed with the Metropolitan Riveters out of university have firmed up contracts in the SDHL. One team, SDE, signed both Naomi Rogge (F, Eden Prairie, MN - UMD) and Lauren Dabrowski (D, Tiny, ON - Lindenwood/St. Francis Xavier, USports). Anneke Linser (F, Lino Lakes, MN - UMD) has signed with Djurgardens. Emma Seitz (D, New York, NY - Yale) has signed with MoDo. Seitz's contract is based on the option to be two years. She will attend the USA National Festival before joining the team in Ornskoldsvik.

Two other players out of college, Gabby Jones (F, Westfield, MA - Merrimack/UNH) and Emily Pinto (F, Mississauga, ON - Mercyhurst/UNH) signed with SDE.

I am very happy for these players who have plans for spending August with their teams and for playing in the fall.
 
I think they are talking about him accepting a role with the new women’s league, but the games (tickets) they are taking about are for the OHL Peterborough Petes (?)
 
I think they are talking about him accepting a role with the new women’s league, but the games (tickets) they are taking about are for the OHL Peterborough Petes (?)

Yes you are right. I misread it to say he took a job with a new women’s hockey TEAM and that he and his family were staying in Peterborough.
 
I think he is incorrect. Remove NYC and add Mpls is what I have heard. With all the national team players in town, pretty sure they will have one in Mpls.

if you are right, it’s fitting that I would learn Minnesota is getting a team on this board. Thank you for sharing.
 
Yeah, it sounds like Minnesota is getting a team!
Angelica Rodriguez and Hailey Salvian reported that they're now following social media accounts for 6 PWHL sites: Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa, New York, Minnesota, and Boston. They say more announcements are to come tomorrow August 29, mid morning.
 
Yeah, it sounds like Minnesota is getting a team!
Angelica Rodriguez and Hailey Salvian reported that they're now following social media accounts for 6 PWHL sites: Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa, New York, Minnesota, and Boston. They say more announcements are to come tomorrow August 29, mid morning.

This makes a lot more sense. London, ONT made no sense whatsoever. And Washington over MN made even less sense.

If they are only starting out with six teams, I think these are excellent locations. Still think Buffalo and maybe CT deserve one, but hopefully down the road.
 
This makes a lot more sense. London, ONT made no sense whatsoever. And Washington over MN made even less sense.

If they are only starting out with six teams, I think these are excellent locations. Still think Buffalo and maybe CT deserve one, but hopefully down the road.

agreed, I think they did as well as you can do picking an original six.

I think I have this right: 4 former cw markets (TO, Montreal, Ottawa, Boston); 5 former PHF markets (Minn, TO, Montreal, Boston, New York).
 
The Victory Press put out an article reporting on the press conference. It covers various topics—including markets for teams, league staff who have been hired, and the schedule for free agency and drafting of players.
 
Inaugural GMs have been announced as:

Boston - Danielle Marmer
Minnesota - Natalie Darwitz
Montreal - Dani?le Sauvageau
New York - Pascal Daoust
Ottawa - Michael Hirshfeld
Toronto - Gina Kingsbury

Today begins a ten day free agency period where each team can sign three free agents of their choice.

Players from around the world, including current NCAA players, have until Sunday to declare for the draft.

The draft is a 15-round serpintine style draft (1st pick overall gets last pick in round 2). The draft order is:

1. Minnesota,
2. Toronto
3. Boston
4. New York
5. Ottawa
6. Montreal
 
Inaugural GMs have been announced as:

Today begins a ten day free agency period where each team can sign three free agents of their choice.

Players from around the world, including current NCAA players, have until Sunday to declare for the draft.

The draft is a 15-round serpintine style draft (1st pick overall gets last pick in round 2). The draft order is:

So free agents are signed before the draft?
 
So free agents are signed before the draft?

Yes. Each team can sign 3 between now and September 10. Players like Muller and Jaques and Heise who just graduated are not eligible for free agency.

waiting to see a projected draft board. I bet Salvian will do one.
 
Yes. Each team can sign 3 between now and September 10. Players like Muller and Jaques and Heise who just graduated are not eligible for free agency.

waiting to see a projected draft board. I bet Salvian will do one.

Interesting. So what did the salary structure end up looking like for the teams and players in this league?
 
Interesting. So what did the salary structure end up looking like for the teams and players in this league?

The gist of it: $35k min salary, 3 players must make more than $80k. When the team average salary is calculated it must be within 10% of $55k. 3% inflator each year. $1500 a month housing allowance and various travel per diems in season.
 
https://twitter.com/hunterofstats/status/1689766071933284359?s=20

Can’t wait to see the rosters take shape. I’m sure there are various rankings out there; I linked to one above. This isn’t a projected draft just a ranking at a snap shot in time that doesn’t consider age, which will be a factor in the draft.

It has Poulin at 1 (makes sense), Rebecca Johnson at 2 (no way). Kennedy Marchment is at 5, first PHF name, some say she should have been PHF mvp this past year.

Tons of talk, rightly so, about Heise, Jaques, Muller —— but I’m pumped to see who the first PHF player is that gets drafted or signed, as well as the first European (obvs Muller is). One League has to be about finding the best, end of story.

My eyes are on Gabel. PHF MVP, plays with swagger (love her goal celebrations), winner, Patty Kaz, no quit, Team Canada experience, and presents as compassionate, engaged and likable off ice. Marketability the new league will need, and possibly help the league win the hearts of hurt PHF fans.

Had this other random thought…for all the Knight haters out there. imagine if Packer makes the league, plays against Knight, they fight, Packer wins, and says how’s that for glorified beer league? Totally j/k’ing for all I know they are besties. BUT, at some point a PW player will get lit up by a PHF player. Will there be trash talk in this league?

But in all seriousness, is there a list of PHF players that played in all the seasons of the PHF? Do any have likelihood of making the new league? It would be cool!
 
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