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Patriots 2010: the Year We Make Contracts

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PrezdeJohnson09 said:
First time in my life I'm rooting for the Patriots this weekend.

Beware Pats fans....

I'm a Bills/Mets/Rangers fan so winning isn't exactly synonomous with me. :(

I just hate Rex Ryan and the Jets fan base that much that I've found room to root for the team that has thoroughly owned us the last decade.
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Sorry guys. All my fault.
 
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UNH GH said:
Ashamed to be a Pats fan today.
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No, I can't go that far. But that whatever good they did in the 3 Super Bowl wins has been gone for 6 years now. And we have to wait 365 days to see them try to make amends... this assumes the season isn't locked out and the Pats make the playoffs again. A lot of "ifs".
 
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Well, I am disappointed but considering where most of us fans thought the Pats would be this year, Im kind of pleased, though the end result leaves me bitter. The team took some big steps this season with Hernandez and Gronkowski, Mayo is poised to be a superstar at line-backer and should be a face of the franchise. McCourty played great on defense, and hopefully will be a shut down corner. Meriweather should some improvement. I think this team needs to shore up on Defense a little better, and that may go with replacing Meriweather. Ty Warren will be back next season and should help the D-line.

Im not sure where you go for a wide receiver. Branch, Welker and the tight ends may be enough, and we all remember the Caldwell says at WR, so even if you bring in a big name, will it make that much of a difference?

For next season its Super Bowl or bust in my eyes. The groundwork has been laid.
 
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Jon said:
This game was lost on Brady's INT. They were about to score up until that point and the momentum wasn't with them at all.
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If it was a pick 6 then I would agree. However, the way things transpired after the INT I thought things were going the Pats way even when they shouldn't have. The lack of urgency is what ultimately killed the Pats tonight.
 
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Boy this is tough. I appreciate the season they played. 14-3! Belichick puts a solid team on the field every year, and that's not easy.

They dominated the first two possessions and ended up with three points, thanks to an awful Brady INT (Simms tried to blame pressure but he's shilling for the franchise QB) and a Crumpler drop (he had saved the Pats seven points five minutes earlier, so I can't come down too hard on him). After that, the NYJs controlled the remaining 50 minutes. They have very good talent built to win now, and they showed up to play today. Congrats to them.

So where do we go from here? Meriweather should never play another down for NE. He's terrible and my least favorite Patriot since Chris Canty. Ship him to Tampa Bay for a fifth-rounder or cut him. Butler is probably done, another second-rounder wasted, so they'll need to add to McCourty/Bodden/Arrington/Chung/Sanders in the offseason. Is there a Rodney Harrison type out there?

On offense they'll need to draft a couple good linemen (T and G/C) and a running back. I don't think they can afford to spend a high pick on WR, so hopefully Price turns into a player. They have six picks in the first three rounds, and while some have predicted they'll only make four of those, I think they should make at least five and get better players now. They need DE, OLB, S, and the RB and two OL.

I think they can compete next year. Things could be worse. It was a great season. But this really sucks.
 
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Looks like Belichek has turned into a great regular season coach, probably overachieved until the playoffs. Didn't see the game, listened to the first half and it didn't sound good. Looks like Rex wins again
 
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I was listening to Dale and Holley (no, I have no idea why) and it sounded like Wilfork said he disagreed with Belichick's benching of Welker for the first offensive series. Huh.

Was also just thinking that NE beat all four conference finalists this year. Three of the four wins weren't close. Yesterday was brutal but I think they found out that some of these guys can play. Hopefully they can find a few more good ones this offseason. I'd love to hear about a veteran free safety who's becoming a free agent and has a lot of respect for Belichick. That could be the missing piece.

Also, the Pats could play in the opening game next year, if the Jets or Pittsburgh wins the Super Bowl.
 
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Wouldn't it be nice to have some "stars" beyond Mayo, Wilfork and Brady. I'd think a pass rush might help or maybe a wide receiver taller than a smurf.
 
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D&C today (along with esiason) were questioning the benching too. I think it was a tweet around 5pm that mentioned Wes got the same suspension as donte stallworth got for killing a guy. Wierd.
 
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mookie1995 said:
D&C today (along with esiason) were questioning the benching too. I think it was a tweet around 5pm that mentioned Wes got the same suspension as donte stallworth got for killing a guy. Wierd.
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Apparently some guys on the team(besides Wes) didn't like the benching much. What can a guy do, he comes back form knee reconstruction way faster than anyone thought, he makes a few jokes in a meaningless press conference and now he's a bad boy as he didn't toe:) the line. I understand Bill wants a team with his personality but what was said hardly warranted a suspension
 
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walrus said:
Wouldn't it be nice to have some "stars" beyond Mayo, Wilfork and Brady. I'd think a pass rush might help or maybe a wide receiver taller than a smurf.
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Good thing the Pats have 9,000,0000 draft picks.
 
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UNH GH said:
Conservative playcalling against Indy in 06, the Giants in 07, Ravens in 09, and now the Jets in 10 have done them in. Not playing THEIR game, not taking chances.
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So, a fake punt...in a one score game...on your own 40...in the first half...is somehow conservative?

Abandoning the run/screen/short pass offense that got you into the playoffs in favor of the "Let's test Cromartie deep with Brandon Tate, have our rookie TEs run option routes, and pray Matt Light can keep Jason Taylor out of Brady's face" offense is conservative?

It wasn't just one thing that cost the Patriots that game yesterday, it was a multitude of problems that finally came to the surface.

Youth and inexperience came back to haunt the Patriots on both sides of the ball. As mentioned already, Hernandez and Gronk seemed to be running the wrong way on routes... simple miscommunication, but in a playoff game it will kill you. There also seemed to be a lot of blown coverages in the defensive backfield, which is why Sanchez had a frigging field day. I went into this thinking that there was no way Sanchez would be able to win the game, but he'd be one of the reasons the Jets could lose it. I was clearly proven wrong.

Questionable playcalling, which I've already gone into.

Most of all, inability to execute when called upon. It pervaded the entire game, in every aspect. The defense couldn't stop anybody; passing, running, anything. They allowed the Jets to control the clock and keep our offense off the field. Not that it mattered because when our offense was on the field, the line couldn't block. They had trouble giving Brady time against three- and four-man rushes. Blitzes were a frigging nightmare. We dropped passes on third downs and in the red zone. As questionable as the call was for a fake punt...we didn't execute THAT right either. Lack of execution will KILL you in any game, at any level.

The Pats didn't execute, the Jets did. Simple as that.
 
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It seemed like they got Andy Reid disease and decided there was no need to hurry up and score in teh 4th. I was disappointed in a lot of things, many mentioned...given all of that...if they don't give up a 40 yard return on an onside kick, they really have a chance. the second onside kick it looked like they forgot what they were doing...nobody really blasted into the front line...I thought the idea of that play was to kick it softly, outrun the ball, crush their first line of defense and have the kicker fall on the ball...only the kicker and one guy to the left did that...the rest all ran along with the kicker and Chung actually stopped and watched the Jet get the ball.

Before somebody says, "it shouldn't have come to that"...I know, but it did. The punt, that is on Chung...it was a good call, he isn't a rookie.

Agree on the screens comment, they did nothing to slow down the rush after the initial screwup. I was surprised they did nothing in the running game, save a reverse, that we haven't seen before. The whole game plan looked like it was vanilla, the announcers mentioned the compacting of our formation...why not run more empty and see who covers the TE when split out...the tight formation wasn't working.

Oh yeah....Hey lawfirm, don't watch the ball go over your head and act like it is no big deal.
 
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pirate said:
The punt, that is on Chung...it was a good call, he isn't a rookie.
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I'm torn. I would have said "great call" had it worked. What I have a problem with is the execution/communication. We'll never get the truth, but if you listened to the way Chung answered the questions, it was clear to me he was just covering for someone and that it wasn't really his fault. This tells me it was on the long snapper. Either he snapped it too soon or Chung didn't actually call for the fake.

pirate said:
Oh yeah....Hey lawfirm, don't watch the ball go over your head and act like it is no big deal.
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I hear what you're saying, but that was all on Brady. I bet Green-Ellis figured he was just throwing it away.
 
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Okay, so the NYJs are done for the year. That's refreshing but only in a jealous, vindictive way. (I'm jealous and vindictive, so I'm fine with it.) :)

The bottom line is that Pittsburgh has been to three Super Bowls since New England last won one, even though every time those two teams play in a big game, NE beats the living **** out of them. Not sure what to say about that, but certainly the Steelers are a great franchise and probably the greatest example of a winning organization over the last half-century of North American sports. They don't buy championships; they earn them. They draft well and develop well. NE needs to improve in order to get to this spot next year, so this offseason will be very important.

"We'll be back and you'll see," Rex said. Okay, we'll see, I guess.
 
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Still think Brady is the best QB in football, but Roethlisberger does things Brady simply can't do....he might be a scumbag, but his combination of toughness, clutch play, ability to improvise and make plays is very impressive. Big Ben is a more clutch version of Brett Favre.
 
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