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Part II of the XXIst Winter Olympiad....and NBC still sucks.

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I don't think it's realistic to expect the USA to ever be a contender in the Nordic events. Was it Bill Koch who won a silver in cross country a few years ago? It's been a long time since drinks of water. There is a cultural disconnect here, and not enough of our kids are seriously interested in ski jumping or cross country or biathlon.

We're doing well in the newer events (snow boarding, short track speed skating, etc) and we've come a long way in the Alpine events. Remember how the French used to dominate? In '72 we won one Alpine medal, Barbara Cochran took gold in the slalom. As of now, we've taken 6 Alpine medals this time around, with more to come. Even with the expanded program, that's impressive.

Take traditional speed skating, we do pretty well these days. We've always got some folks with real medal potential. You'd have to go way back to find Americans listed among the favorites. In '80 we took only 6 golds, of course one was the hockey team and the remaining five were Eric Heiden (a once in a life time guy). Now, however, we've got some depth and some training facilities. And it shows.

We even have people who may medal in the sliding sports. We actually won medals in Luge at Salt Lake City. This time around we've evidently got a real chance in bob sled. Again, you'd have to go back to the first few winter Olympics to find Americans as legitimate medal contenders here.

Money, facilities and exposure are the keys to our improvement, that and the collapse of the Soviet Union. Still, we're doing better, way better, there's no denying it. We have turned a corner. It used to be that our total medal haul in the Winter Olmpics averaged right at 10 per Olympics. From '68-'98 our total medal haul was 88. Then the USA took 34 medals in '02 and 25 in '06. And we're well on our way to 25 to 30 this time around. No question, expansion of the program accounts for some of this, but we are doing a much better job of identifying and training athletes with Olympic potential.

Unfortunately, I don't see that happening in the Nordic events. Pity.
 
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I don't think it's realistic to expect the USA to ever be a contender in the Nordic events. Was it Bill Koch who won a silver in cross country a few years ago? It's been a long time since drinks of water. There is a cultural disconnect here, and not enough of our kids are seriously interested in ski jumping or cross country or biathlon.

Ever? We're a serious contender for a team medal in Nordic combined this year, after the 2-4-5 finish by Spillane, Lodwick, and DeMong in the sprint.

I wouldn't expect it to happen consistently, but I wouldn't dismiss the possibility of catching a couple of good talents out of hand either.
 
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After that build up over how difficult that shot was, it was kind of amusing to see the French guy step up and knock the US stone out like it was nothing.

See? Other countries make hard shots look easy. Maybe the Americans should try that :p
 
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Ever? We're a serious contender for a team medal in Nordic combined this year, after the 2-4-5 finish by Spillane, Lodwick, and DeMong in the sprint.

I wouldn't expect it to happen consistently, but I wouldn't dismiss the possibility of catching a couple of good talents out of hand either.

That's great. And Nordic combined is one of the newer events. How many Americans were in the hunt in any of the cross country or biathlon events. Zero unless I've missed somebody. Ever is certainly a long time. And I wish we would do better in these events. My point, not especially well made, was that while we've improved in many areas of winter Olympic competition we still trail badly in the Nordic events and there's no reason other than optimism, to think that's going to change.
 
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After that build up over how difficult that shot was, it was kind of amusing to see the French guy step up and knock the US stone out like it was nothing.

See? Other countries make hard shots look easy. Maybe the Americans should try that :p

And it's not like the French are all that great. They surrendered 5 points to Canada in one end last night.
 
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I am listening to the UML game on the radio, watching olympics on the TV (surfing b/w chanels will commence soon) and curling on the inter-tubes. My brain is in overdrive but it is happy:D

This young fill in for curling is one hotty and not too bad at things either.
 
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I am listening to the UML game on the radio, watching olympics on the TV (surfing b/w chanels will commence soon) and curling on the inter-tubes. My brain is in overdrive but it is happy:D

This young fill in for curling is one hotty and not too bad at things either.

Friday night's alright ;) Getting ready, myself, for Olympics, and 3 College Hockey games on TV tonight :)

Plys hasn't been doing too bad; not a real tough match. Close, though, so we'll get to see what they are made of these last three ends. I really like the idea of Smith throwing 4th. He's been the most consistent, not that is saying too much.

EDIT: Crap, France gets 2 in the 7th to go up 3-1 now
 
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Yeah, that was the first thing I noticed, too. :p

If he screws up he is still nice to look at. 9th end. still down by 2. The strategy in this is a bit different than what I have been seeing before.
 
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My question is why should anyone listen to Shuster at this point?
 
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Dang, nice throw by Frenchie to take two US stones out of the house. The US option here is to tie it up and go to the 10th on top of the End (where they've been playing most of the game, actually).

EDIT: Smith takes the smart shot; US and France 3-3 in the 10th
 
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He knows what to do. He just can't seem to execute it. I think the guy is getting a bad break. He screwed up big but he must have some redeeming quality. Nice shot by France.
 
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My question is why should anyone listen to Shuster at this point?

His strategy is sound - he's had the US squad in position to win three games. It's his execution that's terrible.
 
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He knows what to do. He just can't seem to execute it. I think the guy is getting a bad break. He screwed up big but he must have some redeeming quality. Nice shot by France.

This. What a really bad time to be having your worst week, ever. (Curling-wise, anyway).
 
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