What's new
By:
USCHO Fan Forum

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

  • The USCHO Fan Forum has migrated to a new plaform, xenForo. Most of the function of the forum should work in familiar ways. Please note that you can switch between light and dark modes by clicking on the gear icon in the upper right of the main menu bar. We are hoping that this new platform will prove to be faster and more reliable. Please feel free to explore its features.

Paris Under Attack....the hell?

Re: Paris Under Attack....the hell?

mookie1995 said:
the proper analogy would be if japan wanted to send a couple hundred thousand "refugees" here after bombing us.
Click to expand...

No, it's really not. The proper analogy would be us in the late 1930s turning away ships of Jewish refugees to send them back the Germany because Holy Crap They're Germans!!!!
 
Re: Paris Under Attack....the hell?

Kepler said:
No, it's really not. The proper analogy would be us in the late 1930s turning away ships of Jewish refugees to send them back the Germany because Holy Crap They're Germans!!!!
Click to expand...

don't correct me. just trying to straighten out farmboy there. you are welcome to work your side of the street too :p
 
Re: Paris Under Attack....the hell?

France is saying they have 10,000 radicalized muslims in their country. That should lead to a fun time in the next few years
From a former hostage,

http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...e-syria-islamic-state-paris-attacks?CMP=fb_gu

Last, if all of Europe was looking for the ringleader of the paris attack before it happened, why did France let him go when they had him on a traffic stop?
 
Last edited:
Re: Paris Under Attack....the hell?

walrus said:
France is saying they have 10,000 radicalized muslims in their country. That should lead to a fun time in the next few years
From a former hostage,

http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...e-syria-islamic-state-paris-attacks?CMP=fb_gu

Last, if all of Europe was looking for the ringleader of the paris attack before it happened, why did France let him go when they had him on a traffic stop?
Click to expand...

Much like after 9/11 here there has to be a serious reckoning for the French internal security services. I had to shake my head when I mistakenly watched CNN and ditz Erin Burnett asked how this could happen since France has the best intelligence in the world after the last attack. Um...Erin, maybe not? I also liked when they pronounced Hollande's name as "Holland" like the country. :rolleyes:

Whatever we think of some of the methods the bottom line is the US takes more casualties from mass shootings than Islamic terrorists. That can't all be by luck that we haven't been struck again and would be attackers have to result to more difficult means to accomplish their goals (a bomb in your underwear?). What I can't get past is how much firepower and coordination these nuts bring to their attacks. From what I've read its special forces military type precision which is horrifying.
 
Re: Paris Under Attack....the hell?

Rover said:
Whatever we think of some of the methods the bottom line is the US takes more casualties from mass shootings than Islamic terrorists. That can't all be by luck that we haven't been struck again and would be attackers have to result to more difficult means to accomplish their goals (a bomb in your underwear?). What I can't get past is how much firepower and coordination these nuts bring to their attacks. From what I've read its special forces military type precision which is horrifying.
Click to expand...

You know, I always wonder if these jerks choose not to attack the US and instead are laughing at how Americans are killing themselves with all these mass shootings, no need for them to do anything.

I'm also torn on this refugee situation. I've seen so many strong comments for and against on Facebook. Some of the against posts are so horrid, some of the for posts are just too stupid. If the US had its own house in order and didn't have issues with homelessness, I might be more inclined to say "let 'em come" but we have way too many things that need to be done for our own people.....it's really too delicate a situation to be so cut and dry.
 
Re: Paris Under Attack....the hell?

Scarlet said:
You know, I always wonder if these jerks choose not to attack the US and instead are laughing at how Americans are killing themselves with all these mass shootings, no need for them to do anything.

I'm also torn on this refugee situation. I've seen so many strong comments for and against on Facebook. Some of the against posts are so horrid, some of the for posts are just too stupid. If the US had its own house in order and didn't have issues with homelessness, I might be more inclined to say "let 'em come" but we have way too many things that need to be done for our own people.....it's really too delicate a situation to be so cut and dry.
Click to expand...

I'm curious if just letting in mothers and children would solve some of the problem at least temporarily as I believe (and I realize this isn't 100%) most terrorists are males.
 
Re: Paris Under Attack....the hell?

Rover said:
I'm curious if just letting in mothers and children would solve some of the problem at least temporarily as I believe (and I realize this isn't 100%) most terrorists are males.
Click to expand...

I don't think the groups involved would be willing to break up families. A goodly sum of Syrian women will be illiterate, should the country follow a hardline Muslim teaching (don't know what's the norm there, actually), which would be a huge burden upon them to be separated from their husbands.

Besides that, if what was stated earlier in this thread is true, it's the teenage refugees that are most likely to become the suicide bombers and hostage takers - the foot soldiers. The men who already have families want to take care of them, not abandon them in the name of some cause or another.
 
Rover said:
Much like after 9/11 here there has to be a serious reckoning for the French internal security services. I had to shake my head when I mistakenly watched CNN and ditz Erin Burnett asked how this could happen since France has the best intelligence in the world after the last attack. Um...Erin, maybe not? I also liked when they pronounced Hollande's name as "Holland" like the country. :rolleyes:

Whatever we think of some of the methods the bottom line is the US takes more casualties from mass shootings than Islamic terrorists. That can't all be by luck that we haven't been struck again and would be attackers have to result to more difficult means to accomplish their goals (a bomb in your underwear?). What I can't get past is how much firepower and coordination these nuts bring to their attacks. From what I've read its special forces military type precision which is horrifying.
Click to expand...

2 massive oceans certainly helps with the whole prevention thing.

There's no easy way to get here from there. You have to take a plane or ocean-faring ship at some point, which means you have to go through an official port somewhere on this hemisphere.

You can avoid that in getting to Europe. There are land routes, however tough they might be.
 
Rover said:
I'm curious if just letting in mothers and children would solve some of the problem at least temporarily as I believe (and I realize this isn't 100%) most terrorists are males.
Click to expand...

Mookie is not comfortable splitting up families (since a nuclear family is so strong in the US already :rolleyes: ). But seriously to take in a mother and children and put dad in gitmo is just assinine.
 
Re: Paris Under Attack....the hell?

HEY!!!!

What if we take the Syrians to gitmo!!!! :D. Beautiful island vacation ;)
 
Re: Paris Under Attack....the hell?

mookie1995 said:
Mookie is not comfortable splitting up families (since a nuclear family is so strong in the US already :rolleyes: ). But seriously to take in a mother and children and put dad in gitmo is just assinine.
Click to expand...

Ummm...I wasn't advocating putting the dad in Gitmo. :confused: I would bring women and children over first as I think they'd need less vetting, then the fathers after a thorough check.
 
Re: Paris Under Attack....the hell?

Not Paris but, the stadium in Hannover where a soccer match between Germany and Netherlands is being evacuated.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top