Oswego State 2009-10 Regular Season Thread

[GreatLakerMohawk]

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I have never been part of WNYO, and as for what is wrong with the people on WTOP, my biggest problem is with the quality of the camera crew. They don't follow the puck well, and have a habit of making the game look amateurish at best. My other big issue is with the people doing the intermission reports. The conversation between the four is bland, there is little to no chemistry, often it seems like they're just starring off into space, and I get the feeling that some of them don't even know what they're talking about. In case anyone is questioning my experience with television media, while I haven't been involved with WTOP, I spent 4 years working with my local public access channel and can work every piece of equipment in a studio.

They're on a college TV station, they're going to be amateurish in how they shoot and not everyone is going to have an electric personality on the air AND know what they're talking about. If you were getting a completely professional and excellent broadcast, then it's a bonus.

You're watching everyone practice live on the air, things are going to be rough regardless.

 

[Celticusa46]

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So, you know, if you'd actually like to see Dormo's trick goal against Brockport, or the goal by Genny that slammed the door shut, go to Laker Lowdown this weekend on YouTube... and then tell me WTOP doesn't do away games.

A couple of video clips shown 4 to 5 days after a game doesn't really count as coverage. Most people (me included) want the full game not a highlight reel.

 

[OSUBamey]

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As a side note, instead of people *****ing and complaining about how much WTOP "sucks" (and I put that in air quotes because if you actually think that, you're either delusional or have never seen other college broadcasts), think about how lucky you are to even HAVE television broadcasts. I was at both Brockport and Geneseo this weekend and I was the ONLY television presence there. One camera. No broadcasting. Just taping. If television is so easy, why aren't these other schools doing it? It takes talent, drive, and determination to do what WTOP does every weekend. If you can't appreciate the effort every single person there puts in, you've never been a part of a live television event before and I hope to god you never are.

 

[OSUBamey]

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A couple of video clips shown 4 to 5 days after a game doesn't really count as coverage. Most people (me included) want the full game not a highlight reel.

Really? They do? Why is SportsCenter so popular? Because they show the highlights of games people couldn't see. As to why people couldn't see them, see my previous post. Instead of knocking what WTOP does, how about you appreciate the time, effort, and money students are spending out of their own pockets to bring you the coverage you do get.

 

[Celticusa46]

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I have tremendous respect for the time and effort put in by the students of WTOP. But when somebody who has no affiliation with WNYO states his opinion that WNYO has better hockey coverage and then he and (WNYO's coverage) gets verbally attacked for expressing those opinions. I felt that i needed to defend not only him but also the hard work that i put in to make WNYO's hockey broadcasts sound the best they can given the struggles we have to work with.

 

[osuhockeyfan]

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They're on a college TV station, they're going to be amateurish in how they shoot and not everyone is going to have an electric personality on the air AND know what they're talking about. If you were getting a completely professional and excellent broadcast, then it's a bonus.

You're watching everyone practice live on the air, things are going to be rough regardless.

Compared to SU's OTN or Ithaca College's ICTV, WTOP looks like a high school station. And these are the other two local colleges that have good broadcasting departments in the area. I'm not saying that the station is terrible, or that it is easy to run a television station, but that when compared to WNYO it seems that WTOP just isn't as enthusiastic in their broadcasts or as well produced. Neither side is perfect, I think WTOP has lots of potential, but that it hasn't lived up to what the station is capable of.

 

[PrezdeJohnson09]

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I have tremendous respect for the time and effort put in by the students of WTOP. But when somebody who has no affiliation with WNYO states his opinion that WNYO has better hockey coverage and then he and (WNYO's coverage) gets verbally attacked for expressing those opinions. I felt that i needed to defend not only him but also the hard work that i put in to make WNYO's hockey broadcasts sound the best they can given the struggles we have to work with.

The whole situation started when osuhockeyfan called out WTOP for absolutely no reason at all.

 

[collegehcky2]

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Compared to SU's OTN or Ithaca College's ICTV, WTOP looks like a high school station. And these are the other two local colleges that have good broadcasting departments in the area. I'm not saying that the station is terrible, or that it is easy to run a television station, but that when compared to WNYO it seems that WTOP just isn't as enthusiastic in their broadcasts or as well produced. Neither side is perfect, I think WTOP has lots of potential, but that it hasn't lived up to what the station is capable of.

Private schools=$$$

SU is a D-I school where they have a lot of capital (and very prestigious alumni) to put into their programs. Ithaca has a huge alumni base that give them the capital to reinvest into their programs as well.

 

[PrezdeJohnson09]

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Compared to SU's OTN or Ithaca College's ICTV, WTOP looks like a high school station. And these are the other two local colleges that have good broadcasting departments in the area. I'm not saying that the station is terrible, or that it is easy to run a television station, but that when compared to WNYO it seems that WTOP just isn't as enthusiastic in their broadcasts or as well produced. Neither side is perfect, I think WTOP has lots of potential, but that it hasn't lived up to what the station is capable of.

You realize you just compared a state school to two of the best broadcasting schools in the country right?

Of course Oswego isn't going to be on par with two private and prestigous broadcasting schools like Ithaca and Syracuse.

Put Oswego up against other small state school's broadcasting programs and I bet you'll find they fair quite well.

Also like Ben said, radio doesn't take NEAR the effort, time, personality, talent, etc that television takes. It's going to be much easier to find and point out mistakes in a TV broadcast over a radio because there are more mistakes to make.

I find it comical that WTOP's analyst team was called out when WNYO's in-game report spouts off about nothing. I went in to WNYO last year to help an in-game broadcast that people on the board were calling atrocious before I got there. The person manning the studio knew nothing about the team because it was his first year at Oswego and I believe his first or second time maning the studio.

 

[Celticusa46]

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The entire situation started when osuhockeyfan gave a negitive reveiw of WTOP in the relm of the disscussion. Since when is that considered "calling out WTOP for no reason"

 

[PrezdeJohnson09]

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The entire situation started when osuhockeyfan gave a negitive reveiw of WTOP in the relm of the disscussion. Since when is that considered "calling out WTOP for no reason"

He/she provided no reason for his claims...they just merely spouted off an ignorant and close minded opinion that had no legitimacy other than giving himself/herself facetime.

 

[PrezdeJohnson09]

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Plus when WTOP begins to cover away games let me know.

If it was easy as only needing two people, a phone line, and a box to do it, WTOP would do it in a heart beat.

Also, before your time, WTOP DID do an away game at Geneseo. I believe it was during the national championship season or the year before.

Also, there's usually a reason people settle for radio and aren't on televison.

 

[Celticusa46]

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He/she provided no reason for his claims...they just merely spouted off an ignorant and close minded opinion that had no legitimacy other than giving himself/herself facetime.

Maybe not in his original post but he did provide reasoning in latter posts

 

[jabber811]

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Oswego Alum
Oswegonian Alum
WNYO Alum

WTOP is better than the Oswegonian & WNYO put together

 

[LakerEagleLover]

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I wouldn't go that far. WTOP is pretty awful, I'd rather listen to Solly call a game any day than watch WTOP attempt to cover a game.

Let's circle back once more and try to make this more factual and less emotional, shall we?

WTOP is not awful - you just don't seem to like them as much as you like your boys on the radio... I like the boys on the radio - they were tough to listen to the beginning of the year (and they heard from me - ask them), but in my opinion, they have made very good improvements as the season has progressed, which should be expected each year given students coming and going, etc. So I have no axe to grind with WNYO - I ran the place for two years in the late 70's when it was known as WOCR.

I compared WTOP to TWCable and other local cable outfits - and I stand by my previous statement. When you consider the complexity of the broadcast they pull together, the quality of the show (technical and editorial), the equipment package they work with and the camera positions/sight lines of the Campus Center, they put on a very good show. When you consider it is a true student production from start to finish, they put on an excellent show.

I have not seen any hockey television programming from SU or Ithaca, so I can't offer any direct comparison to WTOP's product, but I am very familiar with both schools communications programs, having lectured at each. SU's Newhouse is the gold standard by which all programs in this country is measured by the generosity of the Newhouse family along with the famous alums that were alluded to earlier - hundreds of millions of dollars in facilities and endowments for faculty. Ithaca is the small school version of SU - early support by the Park family and later by famous alums of their own - millions in facilities and endowments.

Considering the wealth of support at both schools, I would expect their shows look and sound better than WTOP. It does not make WTOP awful.

I am proud to support and enjoy WNYO and WTOP and I would hope other Oswego alums or Laker fans would feel the same way. Now can we get back to talking hockey?

 

[Irishdave]

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I am proud to support and enjoy WNYO and WTOP and I would hope other Oswego alums or Laker fans would feel the same way. Now can we get back to talking hockey?

Or at least Crescent Wrenches

well we have come a long way, back in the day we had a machine that weighed "ton" and was reel to reel with 1" tape and ONLY in Black and white!

When there is a WTOP Netcast I turn off the audio and have WTOP on that way I don't have to watch the less active parts of the game (I am usually multitasking) when there is a good play or goal I can then look at WTOP and see it in the 2-4 second delay. I turn the sound back on between periods.

as for the quality of both broadcasts "It is college" get over it.
I have lived in small markets where some of the on camera people are right out of College and I'd love to see the bloopers.

I hope we can put this "peeing up a rope" contest to bed, remember we all can't be John Holmes.

 

[ColdInRomney]

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just amazing..... "My Dad can beat up your Dad".

Keep it up guys, 65 posts to go till 1000.

so anyway, the crescent wrench was invented around...

 

[OSUPBPMike]

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THIS:

At the end of the day the purpose of the station is to provide a real world experience for students to hone their skills. NOT to be perfect.

is all that needs to be said

And if anyone has a problem with the way I call games, I'll gladly take the constructive criticism... I'm here to get to be the best I can be.

 

[PSUChamps2001]

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THIS:



is all that needs to be said

And if anyone has a problem with the way I call games, I'll gladly take the constructive criticism... I'm here to get to be the best I can be.

Even from a Plattsburgh fan, the only criticism I can even come up with is the one night I counted 23 times you said "where is it" when the puck was in front of the night. It has got better, and you've come up with a few different things instead of "where is it". Still one of, if not the best college based radio station AND TV station around. Unfortunatley I won't be able to watch or listen to the game as I will be driving from Las Vegas to Reno Nevada during the game.

 

[nysportsfan29]

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Saw this on Oswego's website after seeing Bill R's post about Plattsburgh's guys. Great to see that the team's hard work has been rewarded.

Men’s Ice Hockey Team Dominates SUNYAC Post-Season Awards

The State University of New York Athletic Conference released its 2009-10 Post-Season Men’s Ice Hockey awards on Wednesday and Oswego State garnered the majority of the awards. Sophomore forward Eric Selleck was named the Herb Hammond Most Valuable Player, freshman forward Jon Whitelaw was named Rookie of the Year, and Ed Gosek was selected as the Coach of the Year. Three players received First Team All-Conference recognition including junior forward Chris Laganiere, junior defenseman Stephen Mallaro, and Selleck, while senior forward Neil Musselwhite was named to the Second Team.

In addition, senior defenseman Tyler Lyon and senior goaltender Kyle Gunn-Taylor received honorable mention All-Conference honors. After finishing the SUNYAC regular season with a record of 15-1-0, the Lakers, who are 23-2-0 overall, earned the top seed in the conference post-season tournament.

Eric Selleck, a native of Spencerville, Ontario, led the league in the majority of offensive categories including points (39), assists (25), goals (14), power play points (14). He was tied for the league-lead in goals scored at 14. Last year’s SUNYAC Rookie of the Year was named SUNYAC Player of the Week on November 9 and December 14. Selleck is the second player in conference history to receive both SUNYAC MVP and Rookie of the Year honors following Oswego State’s Ryan Ellis and is the first to accomplish this in consecutive seasons.

Here's the Complete Story

I can't even find the awards on the SUNYAC website which I thought was interesting.