Oswego State 2009-10 Regular Season Thread

[bakdraft21]

Re: Oswego State 2009-10 Regular Season Thread

Losing to Geneseo in the last game of the regular season is the best thing that could have happened to Oswego.

Now they've got that burning their butts for the postseason run and they've been brought down out of the clouds and can realize again that they are beatable.

I feel bad for the first SUNYAC playoff opponent. They are going to run into a ambush I think.

Any Oswego fan that doesn't think this is a good thing please state your case. I'd love to hear how this could be a bad loss.

We have locked up an NCAA bid. At worst Oswego is the #2 seed from the East in the NCAA tournament.

totally agree, if there is such a thing as a good loose I would think this is it...

 

[Irishdave]

Re: Oswego State 2009-10 Regular Season Thread

The BIG question is...How does that defeat taste? Do they shrug it off? Does it really **** them off? Does dropping to number 2 in the polls bother them? Can they put it behind them?......Inquiring minds want to know.

Dropping to #2?
They Have wins over
NCAA #3 Plattsburgh State (2)
NCAA #8 Elmira (2)
NCAA #10 Fredonia State (2)
NCAA #15 Hamilton (1)
and
Out of region NCAA #6 Adrian (1)

AND only 2 losses One from #8 Elmira
and one from 4th place Geneseo in the SUNYAC
They may lose some 1st place votes but dropping to second? I really don't think so

 

[collegehcky2]

Re: Oswego State 2009-10 Regular Season Thread

totally agree, if there is such a thing as a good loose I would think this is it...

I think the SUNYACs will be a good way to get them prepared for the NCAAs because no matter what, Oswego is getting in. If they don't win the championship, fine by me, but I'd like to see the top 2 lines get back to their old ways. It's a shame that Geneseo won't be in the playoffs because they are rolling. It's kind of weird though that their run coincided with the NCAA ban on postseason play. Where was this Ice Knights team the rest of the season?

 

[ColdInRomney]

Re: Oswego State 2009-10 Regular Season Thread

Congratulations to Geneseo, they played their tourny tonight and did it well. Intensity and focus, unlike the Lakers. Oswego was unable to get much of anything going, the passing magic was not there, shots were off net. Selleck played like he was on sudafed- a half step behind all night, taking two penalties. Geneseo had a solid post or it would have been 4-1. Some very poor calls by the officials, but that wasn't the reason for the loss-Geneseo outplayed Oswego tonight. When was the last time Oswego was kept to one goal? GT was pulled with a minute left, but the power play hadn't been working all night, so it didn't have any impact at that point either.

I guess it was the classic set-up- Geneseo had everything invested in this one game- no post-season opportunity and they had #1 at home, and for Oswego it didn't mean much- other than pride and respect, and that wasn't enough tonight.

Hopefully this will leave a bad tate in the Laker's mouths at just the right time.

 

[one_to7]

Re: Oswego State 2009-10 Regular Season Thread

Dropping to #2?
They Have wins over
NCAA #3 Plattsburgh State (2)
NCAA #8 Elmira (2)
NCAA #10 Fredonia State (2)
NCAA #15 Hamilton (1)
and
Out of region NCAA #6 Adrian (1)

AND only 2 losses One from #8 Elmira
and one from 4th place Geneseo in the SUNYAC
They may lose some 1st place votes but dropping to second? I really don't think so

The NCAA poll is not a "vote"

Norwich holds advantages in strength of schedule, and will continue to do so. Another loss for Oswego washes out their win % advantage, and the two teams would be virtually identical in records against ranked teams.

I haven't looked up how the loss effects records against common opponents, but a loss to plattsburgh would hurt oswego there.

It's not exactly a slam dunk case if oswego loses again. Right now I'd be mildly (and only mildly) surprised if Oswego slipped to #2 in the NCAA poll, but a loss to plattsburgh in the sunyac championship game would put them dead even or slightly below norwich, in my opinion.

 

[PSUChamps2001]

Re: Oswego State 2009-10 Regular Season Thread

Dropping to #2?
They Have wins over
NCAA #3 Plattsburgh State (2)
NCAA #8 Elmira (2)
NCAA #10 Fredonia State (2)
NCAA #15 Hamilton (1)
and
Out of region NCAA #6 Adrian (1)

AND only 2 losses One from #8 Elmira
and one from 4th place Geneseo in the SUNYAC
They may lose some 1st place votes but dropping to second? I really don't think so

Just playing DA here but:

#3 T Plattsburgh 1 1
#5 W Amherst 5 0
#15 W Hamilton 8 0
#12 W Curry 4 0
#3 W Plattsbugrh 4 1
#6 W Bowdoin 4 2
#11 W Trinity 7 4
#14 T Babson 3 3
#4 W Middlebury 3 1
#7 L Williams 1 2
Avg #8 7-1-2 40(4) 14 (1.4)

AND only ONE loss to a RANKED team #7 Williams
No LOSES or TIES to an UNRANKED TEAM

 

[LakerEagleLover]

Re: Oswego State 2009-10 Regular Season Thread

Much rather lose now than later... as far as how bad this tastes, I hope the coaching staff and seniors make it taste like cow s@#t in practice this week...the season starts today - forget the polls, boys... win and you keep playing....

 

[norm1909]

Re: Oswego State 2009-10 Regular Season Thread

... Although the games were of little consequence overall, ...

... and for Oswego it didn't mean much- other than pride and respect, and that wasn't enough tonight...

It couldn't have come at a better time, … because from here on out, everything counts.

I would hope that the Laker player's "pride and respect" for Gosek instilled a strong desire to give him a perfect conference record. I hope for their sake that the above "didn't care enough" attitude was their problem (as was the case here ), because if it was poor performance under pressure, it is only going to get worse.

 

[Steve Day]

Re: Oswego State 2009-10 Regular Season Thread

Dropping to #2?
They Have wins over
NCAA #3 Plattsburgh State (2)
NCAA #8 Elmira (2)
NCAA #10 Fredonia State (2)
NCAA #15 Hamilton (1)
and
Out of region NCAA #6 Adrian (1)

AND only 2 losses One from #8 Elmira
and one from 4th place Geneseo in the SUNYAC
They may lose some 1st place votes but dropping to second? I really don't think so

I agree in USCHO POLLS I don't think enough pollsters will swap
It will be close maybe even a tie
Don't think enough will change
IMHO

 

[OZFEST]

Re: Oswego State 2009-10 Regular Season Thread

Just playing DA here but:

#3 T Plattsburgh 1 1
#5 W Amherst 5 0
#15 W Hamilton 8 0
#12 W Curry 4 0
#3 W Plattsbugrh 4 1
#6 W Bowdoin 4 2
#11 W Trinity 7 4
#14 T Babson 3 3
#4 W Middlebury 3 1
#7 L Williams 1 2
Avg #8 7-1-2 40(4) 14 (1.4)

AND only ONE loss to a RANKED team #7 Williams
No LOSES or TIES to an UNRANKED TEAM

I've told you guys, you leave the back door open and anything is liable to crawl in....

 

[nysportsfan29]

Re: Oswego State 2009-10 Regular Season Thread

Personally, I hope they do fall to #2 in the USCHO poll. That is more opinion based anyways so it could be more of a chip for them. Better to play with a chip at this time than be on Cloud 9.

 

[93GreatLaker]

Re: Oswego State 2009-10 Regular Season Thread

Just playing DA here but:

#3 T Plattsburgh 1 1
#5 W Amherst 5 0
#15 W Hamilton 8 0
#12 W Curry 4 0
#3 W Plattsbugrh 4 1
#6 W Bowdoin 4 2
#11 W Trinity 7 4
#14 T Babson 3 3
#4 W Middlebury 3 1
#7 L Williams 1 2
Avg #8 7-1-2 40(4) 14 (1.4)

AND only ONE loss to a RANKED team #7 Williams
No LOSES or TIES to an UNRANKED TEAM

Except for the two ties against unranked Potsdam and Colby.

Both teams had outstanding regular seasons, I have no problem with either one of them being #1 right now. If they both win their conference tourney's (and that is a big "if") I give the nod to Oswego for having gone through Plattsburgh, who is better than anyone Norwich will have to go through.

 

[Laker Ranger]

Re: Oswego State 2009-10 Regular Season Thread

I would hope that the Laker player's "pride and respect" for Gosek instilled a strong desire to give him a perfect conference record. I hope for their sake that the above "didn't care enough" attitude was their problem (as was the case here ), because if it was poor performance under pressure, it is only going to get worse.

From what I have seen and interpreted, it's a kick in the pants - Oswego looked like it was sleep walking through Brockport too. They could put the mad dash on in the third and pull it out there, two nights in a row against the stronger Knights was a weak chance. I wouldn't call it "poor performance under pressure", unless the actual surprise of being down by two in the third finally hitting home is the "pressure". The Lakers have been down by goals many times in games before pulling away, against ranked or unranked teams, and their night at Utica (in my opinion, the best road game I have seen this season) was an example of that in spite of the madness, they can still pull it out in style.

As for Gosek, I'll throw it out there - I didn't see him being as fiery as usual on the bench, nor was he in any hurry in pulling KGT: perhaps this was a game where he left it up to the team on how they wanted to finish the season, and with the parting demand that this garbage will no longer be tolerated, and excellent play expected to resume, with the playoffs to come?

 

[JMD9]

Re: Oswego State 2009-10 Regular Season Thread

Dropping to #2?
They Have wins over
NCAA #3 Plattsburgh State (2)
NCAA #8 Elmira (2)
NCAA #10 Fredonia State (2)
NCAA #15 Hamilton (1)
and
Out of region NCAA #6 Adrian (1)

AND only 2 losses One from #8 Elmira
and one from 4th place Geneseo in the SUNYAC
They may lose some 1st place votes but dropping to second? I really don't think so

Fredonia is not currently ranked #10 and I don't recall them ever being in the top 15. Maybe I missed it?

 

[CARDS_rule_the_Burgh]

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Fredonia is not currently ranked #10 and I don't recall them ever being in the top 15. Maybe I missed it?

He's talking about the NCAA Regional Rankings, not the USCHO Polls. In other words, he's talking about the one that matters, not the one that means diddly.

You can find the NCAA Regional Rankings here.

 

[Irishdave]

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He's talking about the NCAA Regional Rankings, not the USCHO Polls. In other words, he's talking about the one that matters, not the one that means diddly.

You can find the NCAA Regional Rankings here.

Actually I mean both, I am using the NCAA ranking to show how the USCHO Poll should consider ("science" vs. "feelings")

 

[one_to7]

Re: Oswego State 2009-10 Regular Season Thread

Actually I mean both, I am using the NCAA ranking to show how the USCHO Poll should consider ("science" vs. "feelings")

Fredonia does not deserve top 15 in the nation status by any means, they haven't beaten anyone worth noting.

Also, the polls tend to look at recent results moreso than looking at the entire season. The NCAA rankings go by the whole season without looking at recent results (at least not in primary criteria.)

 

[OSUPBPMike]

Re: Oswego State 2009-10 Regular Season Thread

So it's either Brockport or Potsdam coming in Saturday... who do we want?

 

[collegehcky2]

Re: Oswego State 2009-10 Regular Season Thread

So it's either Brockport or Potsdam coming in Saturday... who do we want?

After the *** whooping we gave Brockport at home earlier in the season, I'd want them. Potsdam seems to play well at campus center, for the most part.

 

[dmac1103]

Re: Oswego State 2009-10 Regular Season Thread

I see everybody saying this was a good loss well in every sport I played in my coach always said there was not such thing as a good loss. The good point from what I have read and heard this team have been playing enough just to win a game haven't looked motivated so maybe this game will give that back to them, BUT it also gives other teams confidence when playing them because the unstoppable Oswego team just got stopped and the 3 headed monster know as Selleck, Laganiere and Fox are human. That loss could end up being a bad thing because it gave them motivation but gave other teams confidence. But that is just my opinion.