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Open Wheel Racing 2021, anyone there to watch?

MichVandal said:
There hasn't been a an actual movie about Senna. Rush is about James Hunt vs. Niki Lauda.

LeMans is good in a racing way. There is almost no dialog between characters for 37 min. And I think it's the project that got McQueen into racing- who came pretty close to winning a Sebring 12 hour race.
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McQueen was already into racing. Big time. (Paul Newman is the actor who got into racing after making the racing film Winning.)

When some movie studio wanted to hire him for a few movies, he insisted they include him being able to make a racing movie. Ergo, Le Mans. Yes Kep, it was a vanity project. Almost bankrupted the studio.

McQueen couldn't finish it, obsessing almost in an OCD way over the perfection of the scenes. The studio finally had to pull it from him and hand it to someone else. They did invite McQueen to the debut. After the movie, he went up and hugged the director who replaced him, telling him he kept the spirit he was going after. (The director said when handed the project, all he had was heaps of shot film and a flimsy idea for a story.)

Some of the racing scenes were wild. McQueen himself laid down on the track during practice to film some of the shots, without telling anyone. The camera cars, and back then they were huge cameras, were allowed to "compete" in the race, but had to maintain minimum laps times when they were out (they were constantly pitting for film reloads), so the action from those cars (driven by top flight drivers) were not sped up. They were the actual speed. In the big crash scene, one of the stunt drivers lost his leg.

Steve McQueen's son, Chad, decades later produced a documentary of the trials and tribulations of making that film, including what it did to his father. I have not seen it yet, but everyone I know who has says it's excellent. It's called Steve McQueen: The Man & Le Mans.
 
Spartanforlife4 said:
So Haas stayed on inters as everyone else went to slicks, then during the same safety car decide to pit anyway and go to slicks. Then have to go back to inters anyway when the rain started back up. That's 38 seconds they wasted with two pit stops when they originally gambled on none, and they finish 33 and 40 seconds back. That's probably some crappy napkin math and I'm missing some other factors like getting passed on restarts because their car certainly isn't the best, but seems like they cost themselves a whole lot of points they're not going to be in the running for in any other race this season.
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They were never going to score points anyway.

Interestingly, the F1TV commentators were calling for this exact strategy before Haas did it. Their reasoning was, unlap yourself like you are allowed to, then pit for slicks, then if another SC comes, repeat to pit for inters. In this way, you never lost a lap and you might jump people with the SC stops timed right. The problem was, a later SC didn't materilize. The commentators attitude was you got nothing to lose, so try this.
 
I will never understand pitting strategy. Never. I will never understand undercutting or overcutting.

I am not a stupid person. No, really. But there are some things my brain simply won't do.
 
Russell Jaslow said:
They were never going to score points anyway.

Interestingly, the F1TV commentators were calling for this exact strategy before Haas did it. Their reasoning was, unlap yourself like you are allowed to, then pit for slicks, then if another SC comes, repeat to pit for inters. In this way, you never lost a lap and you might jump people with the SC stops timed right. The problem was, a later SC didn't materilize. The commentators attitude was you got nothing to lose, so try this.
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The Sky did, too, except for Brundle. Who was right all along- the time lost with the slicks was way more than an extra pit. Someone had some bad radar and predictions to think that the slicks would work.
 
Kepler said:
I will never understand pitting strategy. Never. I will never understand undercutting or overcutting.

I am not a stupid person. No, really. But there are some things my brain simply won't do.
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It's roughly that the new tires are faster enough than the old tires to offset the time distance on the track.
 
Not a shock that McLaren won. Not as easy to get 1-2 with those late brake issues for Lando.

Brutal for Ferrari to make technical mistakes on both cars like that.

Well done to Haas for a great comeback weekend.
 
Spartanforlife4 said:
What's the record for shortest F1 stint that wasn't a fill-in? There's already rumblings that Yuki could replace Lawson for Japan.
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This whole thing has been a disaster.

Even just considering the upcoming race, Red Bull is in a no win situation.

Lawson has plenty of experience, including F1 experience, with Suzuka. So, do you keep him there as a last chance shot to prove himself?

But the race is in Japan, Yuki's home country. So do you put him in the Red Bull for the PR, and if he does well, the country loves your product?
 
Russell Jaslow said:
This whole thing has been a disaster.

Even just considering the upcoming race, Red Bull is in a no win situation.

Lawson has plenty of experience, including F1 experience, with Suzuka. So, do you keep him there as a last chance shot to prove himself?

But the race is in Japan, Yuki's home country. So do you put him in the Red Bull for the PR, and if he does well, the country loves your product?
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Breaks my heart. Horner brings this situation on himself. Well, him and Marko.
 
Spartanforlife4 said:
I'm sure NASCAR loves that they get bumped to cable so Fox can run IndyCar directly head to head OTA on normal Fox.
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NASCAR on Fox races have been relegated to cable for all but six races for well over a decade. Daytona, Talladega, Charlotte, and like three others are all that get on OTA. And it could be less now that they're in some weird convoluted four or five way TV deal. We're almost right back to where we were in the 90s before FOX and NBC split the rights in 2001. Is it on CBS? NBC? FOX? CMT? TNN? USA?

Still not sure what FOX was thinking with going after IndyCar though.
 
I'm kinda getting more into F1 this season with the Cadillac team entering next year. Only reason I paid attention years ago was for Kimi Räikkönen.
 
aparch said:
I'm kinda getting more into F1 this season with the Cadillac team entering next year. Only reason I paid attention years ago was for Kimi Räikkönen.
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You Soumi?

Given my company's recent experience in F1, I have almost zero confidence in GM doing anything significant. But it may turn into a decent team once they sell them.
 
MichVandal said:
You Soumi?

Given my company's recent experience in F1, I have almost zero confidence in GM doing anything significant. But it may turn into a decent team once they sell them.
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A little, being a Yooper will have that.

Loved the Iceman for how calm he was, his sarcastic radio outbursts, and his "Fuck this shit, I'm out," attitude like his Monoco walk to his yacht. 😂 He was unique in a series that seems to beat that out of their drivers.
 
aparch said:
NASCAR on Fox races have been relegated to cable for all but six races for well over a decade. Daytona, Talladega, Charlotte, and like three others are all that get on OTA. And it could be less now that they're in some weird convoluted four or five way TV deal. We're almost right back to where we were in the 90s before FOX and NBC split the rights in 2001. Is it on CBS? NBC? FOX? CMT? TNN? USA?

Still not sure what FOX was thinking with going after IndyCar though.
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It's more that Fox pushed them to cable while having another race OTA under their umbrella. But you're right, NASCAR has been disappearing from OTA. The Xfinity Series is actually more accessible now with the CW having the races.
 
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