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Open Wheel Racing 2021, anyone there to watch?

MichVandal said:
Seems that George was messing with Perez and the gap. And maybe he forced Sergio to think he needed to suddenly slow down to meet his targets. The gap had gone so far up and then got small a few times- and it also took SO long from the "VSC ENDING" sign to when it actually did. I'll be watching some of the analysis of the race to see what happened.
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The FIA said the primary VSC system crashed, so they had to go to the backup. Once the backup system is turned on, it automatically delays the end of VSC process by a minute. So, that is why it took so long from the initial announcement.

Red Bull is saying they believe Perez got wrong information, including inaccurate delta times, during this crossover. They are not quite making any accusations just yet, but they do want to sit down with the FIA to discuss it and get an explanation.
 
Russell Jaslow said:
The FIA said the primary VSC system crashed, so they had to go to the backup. Once the backup system is turned on, it automatically delays the end of VSC process by a minute. So, that is why it took so long from the initial announcement.

Red Bull is saying they believe Perez got wrong information, including inaccurate delta times, during this crossover. They are not quite making any accusations just yet, but they do want to sit down with the FIA to discuss it and get an explanation.
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If that's the case, I have no problem with Red Bull getting the short end of the stick, there. Given how last season ended.... They should easily be capable of dealing with a 4th instead of a 3rd when they were literally given a WC because of a rule change on the last lap of the last race of the season.
 
Interesting.

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SonofSouthie said:
4-time world champion Sebastian Vettel to retire at the end of the season.
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I think my only real positive memory of his career was when he stepped in for Kubica at the USGP at Indy, which we were at.

Actually, him winning with Toro Rosso at Monza was pretty cool- first win for Menardi.
 
MichVandal said:
I think my only real positive memory of his career was when he stepped in for Kubica at the USGP at Indy, which we were at.
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I completely forgot this was actually his F1 debut.

Actually, him winning with Toro Rosso at Monza was pretty cool- first win for Minardi.
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This is what I hang onto whenever I think Vettel is not as great as everyone makes him out to be. That drive was epic. And he got pole, too.
 
Russell Jaslow said:
I completely forgot this was actually his F1 debut.



This is what I hang onto whenever I think Vettel is not as great as everyone makes him out to be. That drive was epic. And he got pole, too.
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I do think he is a great driver. But he’s also one of the bigger jerks (putting it nicely) on the track. Blames everyone but himself, and bullies other drivers around.
 
This was shaping up to be Hamilton’s weekend. Merc was picking up speed every lap, Perez knocked out Q2, then Verstappen had power issues and abandoned his final lap. Then Russell gets pole and… Hamilton never crosses because of a DRS issue that caused him to abandon as well. So P7 on what likely would’ve had a chance at pole, now stuck behind the two Alpines who Hamilton always seems to have issues passing.
 
Spartanforlife4 said:
This was shaping up to be Hamilton’s weekend. Merc was picking up speed every lap, Perez knocked out Q2, then Verstappen had power issues and abandoned his final lap. Then Russell gets pole and… Hamilton never crosses because of a DRS issue that caused him to abandon as well. So P7 on what likely would’ve had a chance at pole, now stuck behind the two Alpines who Hamilton always seems to have issues passing.
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Given the nature of the track, he should at least be able to clear on of the cars in front of him- the left side is way better to start on.
 
Kepler said:
Is this really a thing, like sometimes it's better to be P3 than P2?
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Yeah, some of the others can explain way better (calling Russell Jaslow) but I believe it's because one side is on the racing line and has better grip.
 
So, that was another interesting race. Dr. Mrs. and I have now seen two, with identical podiums.

Can one of you who knows things tell me what Ferrari's strategy was, and why it didn't work?
 
Kepler said:
So, that was another interesting race. Dr. Mrs. and I have now seen two, with identical podiums.

Can one of you who knows things tell me what Ferrari's strategy was, and why it didn't work?
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No idea what Ferrari was doing there. Seems to me that you and your wife should be sending your applications into Maranelo to be chief strategists. Given your newbieness into F1 seeing that they did dumb things, well, yea- you are both smarter than Ferrari strategists. These guys are supposed to be pros, and it almost seems that they are selling their pit calls off to rich people who are just getting an expensive car.

They were given an "excuse" that they used up their allotment of medium tires on Friday- which was a nice gesture from Toto Wolfe. Even though Sainz did the same thing Friday, and wasn't given hard tires to struggle on.

Heck, the Ferrari C team (Haas) clearly demonstrated that the hard tires were the exact wrong tires to use- they were not fast enough to cover a second pit stop. How they didn't see that, I don't really know what to say. When I saw that move, I said to myself that was Ferrari handing the WC to Max AND that it's more likely that they will finish 3rd in the team championship- letting the slower Mercedes out point them quite comfortably.

One thing that I do like going into the break- Mercedes sure seems that they will be able to keep Lewis' win streak alive. Kep- something you may not know- Hamilton has won a race in every single season he has competed with- when McLaren struggled in 2010 and beyond as well as the year he moved to Mercedes and everyone could not understand why he did that.
 
Kepler said:
So, that was another interesting race. Dr. Mrs. and I have now seen two, with identical podiums.

Can one of you who knows things tell me what Ferrari's strategy was, and why it didn't work?
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I'm no expert, but I don't think they had a strategy. It was purely knee-jerk reaction. Each driver has to use two different compounds of tires. Since Ferrari had used mediums for their first two stops, they were going to have to go to softs or hards for the last one. They got a little flustered by how early Verstappen went in for his final stop, and because it was too early to try to finish on softs, they went with hards, despite the data from other teams that they weren't going to work. Rather than try to catch up on Max late in the race on fresher tires (like Hamilton), they decided to pit as close as possible. Hards weren't working because it was too cool. The interesting thing is that Sainz performed much worse with the softs than Hamilton did.

I was a little confused on Merc's strategy today as well. They went S-M-M for Russell, and M-M-S for Hamilton, which is fine, you don't need to match your drivers, but they only left Hamilton out there three more laps on the starting tire. Seems like they could've started him on softs and maybe he would've had a couple seconds more here or there. Maybe they were expecting a safety car at some point since the commentators said there's a 2/3 chance at Hungary, but one never came.
 
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