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Open Wheel Racing 2011, hurry, before we downsize your engines....
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Race ON
http://formula-one.speedtv.com/article/f1-austin-keeps-place-on-2012-f1-calendar
(well, until the next person yells Race OFF....)
Craig- since you are in Texas- considering going to the race? Short drive across the state, right?
Race ON
http://formula-one.speedtv.com/article/f1-austin-keeps-place-on-2012-f1-calendar
(well, until the next person yells Race OFF....)
Craig- since you are in Texas- considering going to the race? Short drive across the state, right?
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I'm more interested in the proposed V8 Supercars race. People are talking ca. $180 for a pass for F1, which gives me a bit of sticker shock. (I might still do it if a group of friends wants to go, but I'm unlikely to do it on my own for that much money.)
Race ON
http://formula-one.speedtv.com/article/f1-austin-keeps-place-on-2012-f1-calendar
(well, until the next person yells Race OFF....)
Craig- since you are in Texas- considering going to the race? Short drive across the state, right?
I'm more interested in the proposed V8 Supercars race. People are talking ca. $180 for a pass for F1, which gives me a bit of sticker shock. (I might still do it if a group of friends wants to go, but I'm unlikely to do it on my own for that much money.)
Timothy A
Let's go RED!
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So I was reading the DP12 article on Speed by Marshall Pruett, in a somewhat happy mood that some progress is bieng made on ovals, when I get to the last line in the article: "With the general consensus being that hitting the original targets on paper will never be fully achieved, letting go of the theoretical DW12 and making the most out of the existing platform and could be the smartest move of all."
Holy kick in the nuts, Batman. With his reputation, if Pruett is writing that, I'd say it's been discussed in the paddock to some degree. Let's face it, the owners never wanted these new cars, and now that they are ugly and slow in addition to expensive, they just have more ammo to fire. What a complete and utter joke this is. I am for the first time openly questioning Cotman and Bernard. Their biggest mistake was putting all their trust in Dallara, simply because they agreed to build the cars in Indiana, not because they were the most qualified and trusted builder.
So I was reading the DP12 article on Speed by Marshall Pruett, in a somewhat happy mood that some progress is bieng made on ovals, when I get to the last line in the article: "With the general consensus being that hitting the original targets on paper will never be fully achieved, letting go of the theoretical DW12 and making the most out of the existing platform and could be the smartest move of all."
Holy kick in the nuts, Batman. With his reputation, if Pruett is writing that, I'd say it's been discussed in the paddock to some degree. Let's face it, the owners never wanted these new cars, and now that they are ugly and slow in addition to expensive, they just have more ammo to fire. What a complete and utter joke this is. I am for the first time openly questioning Cotman and Bernard. Their biggest mistake was putting all their trust in Dallara, simply because they agreed to build the cars in Indiana, not because they were the most qualified and trusted builder.
solovsfett
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yeah, the new car problems are really exasperating. I'd be very surprised if they continued with the current car but...who knows. EDIT - I mean w/the current car using the minor weight change adjustments they're talking about. I'm guessing the engine manufacturers will turn up the wick (that's what they've wanted all along I think)...Bernard appears to be open to listening to all the drivers/owners on these things
so Sarah Fisher picks up Josef Newgarden, that is excellent for U.S. fans
Pagenaud w/SSM
no other domino's have fallen yet but I imagine Hinchcliffe, Servia, and possibly Scheckter all have rides by the end of the year
Brazil wants another race? http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/article/indycar-new-brazilian-track-interested-in-indycar-date
yeah, the new car problems are really exasperating. I'd be very surprised if they continued with the current car but...who knows. EDIT - I mean w/the current car using the minor weight change adjustments they're talking about. I'm guessing the engine manufacturers will turn up the wick (that's what they've wanted all along I think)...Bernard appears to be open to listening to all the drivers/owners on these things
so Sarah Fisher picks up Josef Newgarden, that is excellent for U.S. fans
Pagenaud w/SSM
no other domino's have fallen yet but I imagine Hinchcliffe, Servia, and possibly Scheckter all have rides by the end of the year
Brazil wants another race? http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/article/indycar-new-brazilian-track-interested-in-indycar-date
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solovsfett
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Mexican GP to return? wow, that will make Austin happy. Bernie really is an *******.
Robert Kubica to Ferrari? http://www.yallaf1.com/2011/12/12/kubica-set-to-test-f1-ferrari-next-year/
Mexican GP to return? wow, that will make Austin happy. Bernie really is an *******.
Robert Kubica to Ferrari? http://www.yallaf1.com/2011/12/12/kubica-set-to-test-f1-ferrari-next-year/
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When I read this I thought it was horrible. Great, just great.
I agree. As I have mentioned previously, I don't think Dallara can design a good open wheel race car. All of the one's that I have seen that they have designed were crap and those were only design for one type of racing. Now they are trying to design a car that has good characteristics on both road/stree courses and ovals! I think it was a mistake by Indycar. Especially Cotman since he seems to be the racing expert that Bernard is listening the most too. However I am going to guess that politics played a very important role.
I think maybe part of the problem is that Bernard is listening to too many people.
All Bernie cares about is that the tracks can pay the sanctioning fee.
And unless, Massa returns to his 2008 form, I think this upcoming season will be his last with Ferrari.
When I read this I thought it was horrible. Great, just great.
I agree. As I have mentioned previously, I don't think Dallara can design a good open wheel race car. All of the one's that I have seen that they have designed were crap and those were only design for one type of racing. Now they are trying to design a car that has good characteristics on both road/stree courses and ovals! I think it was a mistake by Indycar. Especially Cotman since he seems to be the racing expert that Bernard is listening the most too. However I am going to guess that politics played a very important role.
I think maybe part of the problem is that Bernard is listening to too many people.
All Bernie cares about is that the tracks can pay the sanctioning fee.
And unless, Massa returns to his 2008 form, I think this upcoming season will be his last with Ferrari.
Timothy A
Let's go RED!
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So the big headline on Speed is Dallara says they're comitted to fix the problems.....NO ****, WHAT THE HELL ELSE WERE THEY GOING TO DO?
"I'd like to thank Mr. Dallara and his entire team for stepping up and tacking things directly," INDYCAR CEO Randy Bernard told SPEED.com. "It would have been easy to back away from the problems, but I'm definitely encouraged with how they're working with INDYCAR and what they've come up with."
"EASY TO BACK AWAY FROM THE PROBLEMS?" HOW? YOU TELL THEM THE CARS SUCKS AND THEY HAVE TO FIX IT...THEY DON'T TELL YOU, "TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT, THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE BUYING".
Good Golly Randy, quit being so freaking politically correct telling some loser company "Thanks for trying to fix this massive ****-up-of-a-car." AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Randy at the Dr's office...."Um Doc, I hate to tell you this, but you, ah, took out the wrong kidney, maybe could you take out the bad one and put another good one in? I hate to impose, I'm just asking if you'd help me out here. So, ah, do ya think there's a chance you'll be able to do this?"
So the big headline on Speed is Dallara says they're comitted to fix the problems.....NO ****, WHAT THE HELL ELSE WERE THEY GOING TO DO?
"I'd like to thank Mr. Dallara and his entire team for stepping up and tacking things directly," INDYCAR CEO Randy Bernard told SPEED.com. "It would have been easy to back away from the problems, but I'm definitely encouraged with how they're working with INDYCAR and what they've come up with."
"EASY TO BACK AWAY FROM THE PROBLEMS?" HOW? YOU TELL THEM THE CARS SUCKS AND THEY HAVE TO FIX IT...THEY DON'T TELL YOU, "TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT, THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE BUYING".
Good Golly Randy, quit being so freaking politically correct telling some loser company "Thanks for trying to fix this massive ****-up-of-a-car." AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Randy at the Dr's office...."Um Doc, I hate to tell you this, but you, ah, took out the wrong kidney, maybe could you take out the bad one and put another good one in? I hate to impose, I'm just asking if you'd help me out here. So, ah, do ya think there's a chance you'll be able to do this?"
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Timothy A - I am starting to seriously doubt Randy's abilities to lead Indycar. While he might be good at marketing, and I am not so sure of that, he doesn't know how to run the rest of the organization. He listens to too many people and takes way too long to make a decision. In a lot of ways his indecision's are worse than making the wrong decisions.
As for Dallara...why Indycar ever thought they could produce a decent car for the demands of the series is beyond me. I mean the IR03 is a pig, and the HRT car the design was worse than that. I think it came down to strictly money and jobs in Indianapolis. Sad really.
I read the Pruett's article on the report of Wheldon's crash. Nothing new in it that couldn't be determined from watching the video. I agree with Miller in that it was a waste of time except for the PR. If I can find the whole report I might read through it. I didn't see it when I did a quick look on the Indycar website, but I am sure it is probably out there.
Buemi and Alguersuari are out at STR, Vergne and Ricciardo in. No real surprise there for me. RB has stated all along that STR was a developmental team, so why keep those old two around. I don't think either has shown anything that leads me to believe the could be a solid replacement of Weber when the time comes.
Hulkenberg and Di Resta are in at Force India with Sutil out. I am a little surprised at Sutil being replaced. He is definitely the better racer over the other two, but in the end it was $$ like everything in F1. Sutil was stupid last season in staying at Force India when he was certainly being looked at for other drives. His loyalty was definitely not repaid. I really hope he can land at Williams.
Timothy A - I am starting to seriously doubt Randy's abilities to lead Indycar. While he might be good at marketing, and I am not so sure of that, he doesn't know how to run the rest of the organization. He listens to too many people and takes way too long to make a decision. In a lot of ways his indecision's are worse than making the wrong decisions.
As for Dallara...why Indycar ever thought they could produce a decent car for the demands of the series is beyond me. I mean the IR03 is a pig, and the HRT car the design was worse than that. I think it came down to strictly money and jobs in Indianapolis. Sad really.
I read the Pruett's article on the report of Wheldon's crash. Nothing new in it that couldn't be determined from watching the video. I agree with Miller in that it was a waste of time except for the PR. If I can find the whole report I might read through it. I didn't see it when I did a quick look on the Indycar website, but I am sure it is probably out there.
Buemi and Alguersuari are out at STR, Vergne and Ricciardo in. No real surprise there for me. RB has stated all along that STR was a developmental team, so why keep those old two around. I don't think either has shown anything that leads me to believe the could be a solid replacement of Weber when the time comes.
Hulkenberg and Di Resta are in at Force India with Sutil out. I am a little surprised at Sutil being replaced. He is definitely the better racer over the other two, but in the end it was $$ like everything in F1. Sutil was stupid last season in staying at Force India when he was certainly being looked at for other drives. His loyalty was definitely not repaid. I really hope he can land at Williams.
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Timothy A
Let's go RED!
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Vegas....Why in the world would you put the posts inside the track? If the posts are on the outside of the track, when the fence gets hit, the fence is supported by the whole height of the post. Plus the the posts are not in the danger area for the drivers. I did't realize the cars blew that far in mid-air, like from home plate to the outfield corner. When I think about that distance in Miller Park where I attended about 6 games last year, that is REALLY a long way for a car to fly. Miller is right, open wheel is a dangerous sport and unfortunately people get killed doing it, people have to understand that.
Vegas....Why in the world would you put the posts inside the track? If the posts are on the outside of the track, when the fence gets hit, the fence is supported by the whole height of the post. Plus the the posts are not in the danger area for the drivers. I did't realize the cars blew that far in mid-air, like from home plate to the outfield corner. When I think about that distance in Miller Park where I attended about 6 games last year, that is REALLY a long way for a car to fly. Miller is right, open wheel is a dangerous sport and unfortunately people get killed doing it, people have to understand that.
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I read somewhere soon after the crash (maybe a week later) that there was a reason for this. Unfortunately I cannot remember what the reason was or where I read it.
I read somewhere soon after the crash (maybe a week later) that there was a reason for this. Unfortunately I cannot remember what the reason was or where I read it.
solovsfett
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cool news I: http://www.the-leader.com/features/x931415742/IndyCar-WGI-talking-about-2013
cool news II: "no, there is another sky...walk....er" http://indycar.com/news/show/55-izod-indycar-series/51045-another-brabham-begins-his-journey/
driver line-ups: I'm surprised neither Andretti, KV nor Rahal are looking at Paul Tracy or Tomas Scheckter. Tracy has the exp obviously and fan recognition...Scheckter is untapped potential. Just harness him a bit and he could be a demon out there.
cool news I: http://www.the-leader.com/features/x931415742/IndyCar-WGI-talking-about-2013
cool news II: "no, there is another sky...walk....er" http://indycar.com/news/show/55-izod-indycar-series/51045-another-brabham-begins-his-journey/
driver line-ups: I'm surprised neither Andretti, KV nor Rahal are looking at Paul Tracy or Tomas Scheckter. Tracy has the exp obviously and fan recognition...Scheckter is untapped potential. Just harness him a bit and he could be a demon out there.
solovsfett
Registered User
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Mike Conway to A.J. Foyt!
wow, I expected Servia to land that ride. this will start the chain reaction to silly season
I bet Ryan Hunter-Reay gets the GoDaddy car...
Mike Conway to A.J. Foyt!
wow, I expected Servia to land that ride. this will start the chain reaction to silly season
I bet Ryan Hunter-Reay gets the GoDaddy car...
manurespreader
Still upright
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Did anyone else notice this ad?
not my favorite I can tell you. Track seems no where near ready. My guess is it won't happen.
http://www.redbullusa.com/cs/Satell...-1-Racing-Visits-Austin-Texas-021243088304475
Did anyone else notice this ad?
not my favorite I can tell you. Track seems no where near ready. My guess is it won't happen.
http://www.redbullusa.com/cs/Satell...-1-Racing-Visits-Austin-Texas-021243088304475
solovsfett
Registered User
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I hadn't seen that...wow, that's a seriously long, and sort of dumb ad to be honest. In Austin you're in the heart of nascar/whogivesa****aboutopenwheel racing territory...I'd approach advertising in several ways
a. 1:30 minute ad tops (we're talking on the internet to get that length, I can't believe a t.v. station anywhere would launch something over 15-20seconds)
b. hello south and central america!!!
c. and this should be first actually...VISUALLY showcase how fast, quick and agile these cars are. An F1 car would blow out a taxi car in any type of circuit anywhere even if you gave the taxicab a 1/2 lap head-start for a two lap race! that's just a fact. also, please showcase the sounds as well. most casual sports fans that I know LOVE the "hive of bees" sounds that come from F1 or Indycars. they just do. so beat that drum as well
I hadn't seen that...wow, that's a seriously long, and sort of dumb ad to be honest. In Austin you're in the heart of nascar/whogivesa****aboutopenwheel racing territory...I'd approach advertising in several ways
a. 1:30 minute ad tops (we're talking on the internet to get that length, I can't believe a t.v. station anywhere would launch something over 15-20seconds)
b. hello south and central america!!!
c. and this should be first actually...VISUALLY showcase how fast, quick and agile these cars are. An F1 car would blow out a taxi car in any type of circuit anywhere even if you gave the taxicab a 1/2 lap head-start for a two lap race! that's just a fact. also, please showcase the sounds as well. most casual sports fans that I know LOVE the "hive of bees" sounds that come from F1 or Indycars. they just do. so beat that drum as well
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According to Miller this is the 2012 Indycar schedule:
PROJECTED 2012 SCHEDULE
March 25 – St. Petersburg
April 1 – Birmingham, Ala.
April 15 – Long Beach
April 29 – Sao Paulo, Brazil
May 27 – Indianapolis 500
June 3 – Detroit
June 9 – Fort Worth
June 23 – Newton, Iowa
July 8 – Toronto
July 22 – Edmonton
Aug. 5 – Mid-Ohio
Aug. 18 – China
Aug. 26 – Sonoma, Calif.
Sept. 2 – Baltimore
Sept. 15 – Fontana, Calif.
Sept. 30 – TBD?
Seriously? What a joke it is. I'm not one of those fans that thinks there needs to by a perfect split between ovals and road/street courses but dang, 4 ovals? Come on, after Indycar loss millions over the years with TG at the helm, they're now not going to spend any money and get another oval or two and promote it themselves?
I don't want to be reactionary, but I have pretty much lost any faith in Bernard. He might have done a great job with the rodeo, but his performance with Indycar so far has been very lacking. I think he is over his head and just simply doesn't get racing. I like that he has brought in a new car, but the thing is a joke. I like that he has tried to create some buzz about the races, but that seemingly has failed too. He finally got rid of TGBB, but that was a year too late. I really hope next season he can make something happen and that the new car, even thought it is horrible, will create some good races and some positive PR for the series. I'll just keep my fingers cross that will happen.
According to Miller this is the 2012 Indycar schedule:
PROJECTED 2012 SCHEDULE
March 25 – St. Petersburg
April 1 – Birmingham, Ala.
April 15 – Long Beach
April 29 – Sao Paulo, Brazil
May 27 – Indianapolis 500
June 3 – Detroit
June 9 – Fort Worth
June 23 – Newton, Iowa
July 8 – Toronto
July 22 – Edmonton
Aug. 5 – Mid-Ohio
Aug. 18 – China
Aug. 26 – Sonoma, Calif.
Sept. 2 – Baltimore
Sept. 15 – Fontana, Calif.
Sept. 30 – TBD?
Seriously? What a joke it is. I'm not one of those fans that thinks there needs to by a perfect split between ovals and road/street courses but dang, 4 ovals? Come on, after Indycar loss millions over the years with TG at the helm, they're now not going to spend any money and get another oval or two and promote it themselves?
I don't want to be reactionary, but I have pretty much lost any faith in Bernard. He might have done a great job with the rodeo, but his performance with Indycar so far has been very lacking. I think he is over his head and just simply doesn't get racing. I like that he has brought in a new car, but the thing is a joke. I like that he has tried to create some buzz about the races, but that seemingly has failed too. He finally got rid of TGBB, but that was a year too late. I really hope next season he can make something happen and that the new car, even thought it is horrible, will create some good races and some positive PR for the series. I'll just keep my fingers cross that will happen.
solovsfett
Registered User
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http://www.racer.com/q-a-randy-bernard-on-indycar-offseason-priorities/article/220444/
I agree with you MattS. I don't need 8-10 ovals but a solid 1/2 dozen (especially if Milwaukee is in that group, and Michigan) does the sport some good and ties it nicely to its oval roots.
I think Indycar should take over milwaukee and promote it from within. that track has more history than Indianapolis even w/open wheel and it's a **** shame it won't be on the schedule for 2012.
put it back the week after INDY, promote it w/Indycar $ and make sure Milwaukee/Chicago/Minnesota/Michigan people know this event will be back permanently and w/in 3 years the crowds will be back.
it's a drivers track, easy to get to, and you can have usac races in conjunction. OR...run it in August during the State Fair. in the early 80's Indycars came to Milwaukee twice annually. once after Indy and once during the fair. It was Heaven!
http://www.racer.com/q-a-randy-bernard-on-indycar-offseason-priorities/article/220444/
I agree with you MattS. I don't need 8-10 ovals but a solid 1/2 dozen (especially if Milwaukee is in that group, and Michigan) does the sport some good and ties it nicely to its oval roots.
I think Indycar should take over milwaukee and promote it from within. that track has more history than Indianapolis even w/open wheel and it's a **** shame it won't be on the schedule for 2012.
put it back the week after INDY, promote it w/Indycar $ and make sure Milwaukee/Chicago/Minnesota/Michigan people know this event will be back permanently and w/in 3 years the crowds will be back.
it's a drivers track, easy to get to, and you can have usac races in conjunction. OR...run it in August during the State Fair. in the early 80's Indycars came to Milwaukee twice annually. once after Indy and once during the fair. It was Heaven!
Timothy A
Let's go RED!
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I'm not going to torch Benard on the schedule, he doesn't have any leverage at all, no big title sponsor, no big tv ratings, no amazingly fast cars......one the other hand, it's his job to get a title sponsor, improve the ratings and have amazingly fast cars. I am hopefull 2013 will have a better schedule, but hope is getting thinner all the time.
It may be too late to move Milwaukee back to the weekend after Indy to boost Milwaukee, most of those traditional/historic fans are long gone. Now a race at the State Fair might be cool, but would then non-race fans ***** about the noise and the fact they may not be able to hear the band play?
I'm just holding out hope this new car gets all the bugs worked out. If they are going to plod around Indy @ 219 mph, it's over.
I'm not going to torch Benard on the schedule, he doesn't have any leverage at all, no big title sponsor, no big tv ratings, no amazingly fast cars......one the other hand, it's his job to get a title sponsor, improve the ratings and have amazingly fast cars. I am hopefull 2013 will have a better schedule, but hope is getting thinner all the time.
It may be too late to move Milwaukee back to the weekend after Indy to boost Milwaukee, most of those traditional/historic fans are long gone. Now a race at the State Fair might be cool, but would then non-race fans ***** about the noise and the fact they may not be able to hear the band play?
I'm just holding out hope this new car gets all the bugs worked out. If they are going to plod around Indy @ 219 mph, it's over.
solovsfett
Registered User
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whey they raced State Fair in the 80's it was *IIRC* around 2pm on Sunday and so didn't interfere w/a large concert.
having said that, despite the 100+ year history of racing at the Milwaukee Mile, it's not the patrons at the fair that would complain about the noise but the dumb-*** residents around 75th to 85th street and bluemound to whoknows where that complain about the noise despite that fact they bought their houses decades after this track had been built and had been running races annually until about what 08? 09?
losing the Mile for Indycar to me is losing the 2nd most prestigious race they have. I'm sorry but nowhere else in this series can they claim the late GREAT Jim Clark won (outside Indy), nor is there a track outside Milwaukee with an open wheel car heritage that pre-dates Indianapolis.
My dad started taking me to the Mile in 83-84. anyone else know if F1 pilots not named Clark, Mansell, Villeneuve, Zanardi, Andretti or Gurney have raced there?
whey they raced State Fair in the 80's it was *IIRC* around 2pm on Sunday and so didn't interfere w/a large concert.
having said that, despite the 100+ year history of racing at the Milwaukee Mile, it's not the patrons at the fair that would complain about the noise but the dumb-*** residents around 75th to 85th street and bluemound to whoknows where that complain about the noise despite that fact they bought their houses decades after this track had been built and had been running races annually until about what 08? 09?
losing the Mile for Indycar to me is losing the 2nd most prestigious race they have. I'm sorry but nowhere else in this series can they claim the late GREAT Jim Clark won (outside Indy), nor is there a track outside Milwaukee with an open wheel car heritage that pre-dates Indianapolis.
My dad started taking me to the Mile in 83-84. anyone else know if F1 pilots not named Clark, Mansell, Villeneuve, Zanardi, Andretti or Gurney have raced there?
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I agree that Bernard is in a tough spot, but he was hired to promote and improve the league and right now he struggling to do so. I think his problem is that he has taken on too much, too quickly, and had some bad breaks. I think he should have focused on getting the right people in charge (firing TGBB), then a stable schedule, then new cars.
Does the state fair usually have two big events on the same day? At the New York state fair there is only one big event per day. So the day when they have the tractor pulls there is no concert. Even though they are in the afternoon to early evening and there would be time for a concert afterwards.
This ******es me off too. It has happened at the small local track near me. The track has been there racing on Saturday nights for the past 60 years, but people who build homes near by 10 years ago get mad over the noise. Even though the races have a curfew of 11 pm and don't start practice until 4 pm.
Of course it is people like this is why I have to run mufflers on my drag car. Enough complaints over noise and the NHRA changes the rules so I have to run muffles in the super stock class I run in.
I agree that Bernard is in a tough spot, but he was hired to promote and improve the league and right now he struggling to do so. I think his problem is that he has taken on too much, too quickly, and had some bad breaks. I think he should have focused on getting the right people in charge (firing TGBB), then a stable schedule, then new cars.
Does the state fair usually have two big events on the same day? At the New York state fair there is only one big event per day. So the day when they have the tractor pulls there is no concert. Even though they are in the afternoon to early evening and there would be time for a concert afterwards.
This ******es me off too. It has happened at the small local track near me. The track has been there racing on Saturday nights for the past 60 years, but people who build homes near by 10 years ago get mad over the noise. Even though the races have a curfew of 11 pm and don't start practice until 4 pm.
Of course it is people like this is why I have to run mufflers on my drag car. Enough complaints over noise and the NHRA changes the rules so I have to run muffles in the super stock class I run in.
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