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Open Wheel Racing 2010...He's baaack...He's gone...
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One other comment- I noticed that green and yellow car near the back of the pack, driven by Takuma Sato- gee, that looks like it should be a Lotus.
Indeed- the car is sponsored by Lotus AND Cosworth.
And I think neither are the same as the ones in F1, sicne F1 uses a different logo, and Cosworth is Cosworth Engineering, not Cosworth Racing (different companies).
Interesting.
One other comment- I noticed that green and yellow car near the back of the pack, driven by Takuma Sato- gee, that looks like it should be a Lotus.
Indeed- the car is sponsored by Lotus AND Cosworth.
And I think neither are the same as the ones in F1, sicne F1 uses a different logo, and Cosworth is Cosworth Engineering, not Cosworth Racing (different companies).
Interesting.
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Great day for Mercedes-Benz. I agree with you, it was a fun race to watch with lots of strategy and opportunities for passing. Fernando had a great drive to come back through the field to finish 4th after receiving a penalty for a false start off the starting line. Three week break now before Spain.
Great day for Mercedes-Benz. I agree with you, it was a fun race to watch with lots of strategy and opportunities for passing. Fernando had a great drive to come back through the field to finish 4th after receiving a penalty for a false start off the starting line. Three week break now before Spain.
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I think, but cold be wrong, that it is different Lotus too.
I think, but cold be wrong, that it is different Lotus too.
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The F1 Lotus Team is headed by principle Tony Fernandes. Lotus is making it's return to F1 for the first time in 16 years. The team was based in Norfolk,UK with much of the sponsorship coming from Proton in Malaysia. The engine is a Cosworth.
The F1 Lotus Team is headed by principle Tony Fernandes. Lotus is making it's return to F1 for the first time in 16 years. The team was based in Norfolk,UK with much of the sponsorship coming from Proton in Malaysia. The engine is a Cosworth.
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The only think I'm not so sure about is the Group Lotus thing.
If you go to the F1 team's website, and then compare that with the KV racing website, they say the same thing about Lotus- almost word for word. The F1 team seems to be allowed to associate itself with the old team, and with Classic Team Lotus, but it's not Lotus. really interesting.
I know Cosworth Engineering (Technology) and Racing are totally different companies- worked with both.
I'm just trying to figure out how Lotus Cars and Lotus Engineering (both part of Group Lotus) are so different that one can use the logo while the other can not. That, and IF they are both part of Group Lotus, it seems like a waste of money to spend on an IRL team when F1 should clearly be top priority.
But none of that really matters- neither team is realted to the old, creative team.
The only think I'm not so sure about is the Group Lotus thing.
If you go to the F1 team's website, and then compare that with the KV racing website, they say the same thing about Lotus- almost word for word. The F1 team seems to be allowed to associate itself with the old team, and with Classic Team Lotus, but it's not Lotus. really interesting.
I know Cosworth Engineering (Technology) and Racing are totally different companies- worked with both.
I'm just trying to figure out how Lotus Cars and Lotus Engineering (both part of Group Lotus) are so different that one can use the logo while the other can not. That, and IF they are both part of Group Lotus, it seems like a waste of money to spend on an IRL team when F1 should clearly be top priority.
But none of that really matters- neither team is realted to the old, creative team.
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Very confusing to me as well. I can't figure it out.
Very confusing to me as well. I can't figure it out.
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More "plans" for a US Grand Prix...
Jersey City?
More "plans" for a US Grand Prix...
Jersey City?
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That's a LOT different than what I thought when I saw your post.
Not bad, for sure.
That's a LOT different than what I thought when I saw your post.
Not bad, for sure.
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Could be worse. At least it is fairly close to my home! Although I still contend that Watkins Glen is a better place.
I didn't get to see last weeks IRL race. I forgot it was on Saturday night.
[RANT]I absolutely hate night racing. Racing is suppose to be on Sunday afternoons. Just like the NFL. [/RANT]
Anyway, I was looking through the results and of course I saw the Duno finished 26th. 116 laps down. It got me to thinking has she ever finished a race on the lead lap? And has there ever been a worse full time Indy driver that has lasted this long? Ugh. What a joke.
That's a LOT different than what I thought when I saw your post.
Not bad, for sure.
Could be worse. At least it is fairly close to my home! Although I still contend that Watkins Glen is a better place.
I didn't get to see last weeks IRL race. I forgot it was on Saturday night.
[RANT]I absolutely hate night racing. Racing is suppose to be on Sunday afternoons. Just like the NFL. [/RANT]
Anyway, I was looking through the results and of course I saw the Duno finished 26th. 116 laps down. It got me to thinking has she ever finished a race on the lead lap? And has there ever been a worse full time Indy driver that has lasted this long? Ugh. What a joke.
Timothy A
Let's go RED!
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I don't mind night races. Out here when I was in my 20's we'd go out to the local dirt track and watch the local boys race Saturday nights. We had an event where I could not watch it.
I am SO looking forward to the European swing of F1 and a chance to watch some live races. I feel so out of it so far this year.
I liked on thre road/street courses Simona was beating Danica. Cool beans.
Could be worse. At least it is fairly close to my home! Although I still contend that Watkins Glen is a better place.
I didn't get to see last weeks IRL race. I forgot it was on Saturday night.
[RANT]I absolutely hate night racing. Racing is suppose to be on Sunday afternoons. Just like the NFL. [/RANT]
Anyway, I was looking through the results and of course I saw the Duno finished 26th. 116 laps down. It got me to thinking has she ever finished a race on the lead lap? And has there ever been a worse full time Indy driver that has lasted this long? Ugh. What a joke.
I don't mind night races. Out here when I was in my 20's we'd go out to the local dirt track and watch the local boys race Saturday nights. We had an event where I could not watch it.
I am SO looking forward to the European swing of F1 and a chance to watch some live races. I feel so out of it so far this year.
I liked on thre road/street courses Simona was beating Danica. Cool beans.
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I somewhat agree. Local racing should be on Saturday nights. Big boys on Sunday afternoons. I still go see some racing on Friday/Saturday nights.
A good racing weekend:
Friday night: Local drags
Saturday night: local oval track
Sunday Morning: F1
Sunday Afternoon: IRL
Of course this was before I got married.
Me too. Those races that are in the middle of the night just suck for timing. I have to DVR them and then avoid any race information until I get a chance to watch them. At least with the Euro races I can get up early and watch them live.
I think Simona has a chance to be a decent IRL driver. With some more experience she might just be able to compete.
I somewhat agree. Local racing should be on Saturday nights. Big boys on Sunday afternoons. I still go see some racing on Friday/Saturday nights.
A good racing weekend:
Friday night: Local drags
Saturday night: local oval track
Sunday Morning: F1
Sunday Afternoon: IRL
Of course this was before I got married.
Me too. Those races that are in the middle of the night just suck for timing. I have to DVR them and then avoid any race information until I get a chance to watch them. At least with the Euro races I can get up early and watch them live.
I think Simona has a chance to be a decent IRL driver. With some more experience she might just be able to compete.
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As quickly as it comes...its gone.....
No Jersey City Race
I'm still pulling for the Glen.
As quickly as it comes...its gone.....
No Jersey City Race
I'm still pulling for the Glen.
Badger Abroad
Registered User
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Wow, those Red Bull cars are kinda quick!
Wow, those Red Bull cars are kinda quick!
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Interesting race in Monoco. Webber with the class of the field. Nobody could touch him.
Alonso and Ferrari with a great strategy and some good fortune.
Schumi with a bone head pass under the SC. Who really thought that was OK?
Oh, and Hamilton once again proved what a whiner and immature he is. Complaining over the radio for the second race in a row that his team doesn't know what it is doing.
Interesting race in Monoco. Webber with the class of the field. Nobody could touch him.
Alonso and Ferrari with a great strategy and some good fortune.
Schumi with a bone head pass under the SC. Who really thought that was OK?
Oh, and Hamilton once again proved what a whiner and immature he is. Complaining over the radio for the second race in a row that his team doesn't know what it is doing.
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Weber is putting his stamp on this season- one heck of a dominating run he did. I can deal with that- he seems like a great guy- like Button last year.
Gutsy move by Ferrari, since Bridgestone didn't know if the tires would last. But then again, he didn't have many other choices if he wanted significant points. Good drive, too.
(did Mike get a penalty? I'll have to look that one up)
I'm still a fan of Hamilton, and while I thought he didn't need to voice his opinion over the radio, the commentators didn't need to blather on about it so long, either. The TV feed does not play ALL of the radio feeds.... Hopefully, Lewis can understand that he needs to just deal with the hand he deals himself. While they laughed at Ferrari's comments in Spain for Masa, after he broke his wing- they could have really railed into Phillipe, but just thought it was funny and "cute". IMHO, that was the team calling out the driver, which is just as bad as the driver calling out the team.
On that note- it was interesting to hear that brakes were such an issue at Monaco for more than just McLaren. What in the world are they doing that makes them wear that fast? It's not as if that track is so hard on brakes.
Weber is putting his stamp on this season- one heck of a dominating run he did. I can deal with that- he seems like a great guy- like Button last year.
Gutsy move by Ferrari, since Bridgestone didn't know if the tires would last. But then again, he didn't have many other choices if he wanted significant points. Good drive, too.
(did Mike get a penalty? I'll have to look that one up)
I'm still a fan of Hamilton, and while I thought he didn't need to voice his opinion over the radio, the commentators didn't need to blather on about it so long, either. The TV feed does not play ALL of the radio feeds.... Hopefully, Lewis can understand that he needs to just deal with the hand he deals himself. While they laughed at Ferrari's comments in Spain for Masa, after he broke his wing- they could have really railed into Phillipe, but just thought it was funny and "cute". IMHO, that was the team calling out the driver, which is just as bad as the driver calling out the team.
On that note- it was interesting to hear that brakes were such an issue at Monaco for more than just McLaren. What in the world are they doing that makes them wear that fast? It's not as if that track is so hard on brakes.
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Yeah, he got a drive though penalty (20 seconds added to his time since the race was over) for passing under the SC, and that dropped him from 5th to 12th. I think I got the positions correct.
I thought the Speed commentators did go on a bit long about it, but he certainly did deserve criticism over it. Just like how they criticized Rubens for throwing his steering wheel.
I don't remember what was said on radio with Massa and his team over the wing more than after he damaged it he seems to be going faster and that maybe they "solved the problem" with the car. Maybe there was more that I can't remember but that seems much more innocent than Hamilton again calling out his team. That is certainly not a way to keep the guys in the shop in his corner. Especially when seeming Button is completely the opposite and beating him in the points.
Don't they on tracks with less braking use brake pads that have less "meat" to them to save on weight? Maybe the problem is that some team went too far?
Yeah, he got a drive though penalty (20 seconds added to his time since the race was over) for passing under the SC, and that dropped him from 5th to 12th. I think I got the positions correct.
I thought the Speed commentators did go on a bit long about it, but he certainly did deserve criticism over it. Just like how they criticized Rubens for throwing his steering wheel.
I don't remember what was said on radio with Massa and his team over the wing more than after he damaged it he seems to be going faster and that maybe they "solved the problem" with the car. Maybe there was more that I can't remember but that seems much more innocent than Hamilton again calling out his team. That is certainly not a way to keep the guys in the shop in his corner. Especially when seeming Button is completely the opposite and beating him in the points.
Don't they on tracks with less braking use brake pads that have less "meat" to them to save on weight? Maybe the problem is that some team went too far?
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But the comment was just dripping with sarcasm. It really wasn't a nice thing to say to a driver- Crash the car- you'll go faster! I didn't think it was all that nice, but maybe Philipe took it differently.
And part of the reason Button is winning is that they are choosing the right strategy for him vs Hamilton. Realistically, I know that's very lucky that Jensen has gotten the "right" call twice, but I'm not so sure Lewis sees it that way. Maybe the race in China- where is was pretty risky to stay on the dry tires at the beginning, but the first race, where Lewis laid into the team the first time... well. Then consider that they kind of cost him the championship when he was a rookie by holding him out a few laps to *really* ruin the tires- there were cracks in this armor for a few years now.
But the comment was just dripping with sarcasm. It really wasn't a nice thing to say to a driver- Crash the car- you'll go faster! I didn't think it was all that nice, but maybe Philipe took it differently.
And part of the reason Button is winning is that they are choosing the right strategy for him vs Hamilton. Realistically, I know that's very lucky that Jensen has gotten the "right" call twice, but I'm not so sure Lewis sees it that way. Maybe the race in China- where is was pretty risky to stay on the dry tires at the beginning, but the first race, where Lewis laid into the team the first time... well. Then consider that they kind of cost him the championship when he was a rookie by holding him out a few laps to *really* ruin the tires- there were cracks in this armor for a few years now.
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I think you are taking the Massa thing out of context. I have heard and read that Smedley (sp?) Massa's Chief Engineer and Massa have an excellent relationship. I certainly took those comments (from Smedley) to be nothing more than a joke and I think that is why the Speed people joked about it too.
I think you are taking the Massa thing out of context. I have heard and read that Smedley (sp?) Massa's Chief Engineer and Massa have an excellent relationship. I certainly took those comments (from Smedley) to be nothing more than a joke and I think that is why the Speed people joked about it too.
Timothy A
Let's go RED!
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What I saw, it was an entertaining race watching Alonso try to get up through the field while preserving his tyres. We had to leaver for Church just as the 2nd SC came out. Of course, had it not been for Alonso's issue in practice, it would have been quite a snoozer of a race.
So far, I really miss the refuelling and all the strategy related to it.
What I saw, it was an entertaining race watching Alonso try to get up through the field while preserving his tyres. We had to leaver for Church just as the 2nd SC came out. Of course, had it not been for Alonso's issue in practice, it would have been quite a snoozer of a race.
So far, I really miss the refuelling and all the strategy related to it.