Ohio State U. ( 2009-2010 )

[redhawk95]

Re: Ohio State U. ( 2009-2010 )

I can't imagine Rico leaving for another CCHA school, even Michigan, much less OSU. That said, Bergeron or Brekke could definitely be enticed though it feels like Bergeron and Blasi are tied to the hip. When Parker, York, Gwozdecky and Lucia leave/retire/get fired, then I'll worry. Also, though mentioned in jest, no way Gwoz leaves Denver for Columbus. Why? Money? DU would match, plus living in Columbus (as I do) vs. Denver. I'd never make that swap in a hundred years. But, never say never, I suppose.

If you guys do not renew Markell, they need to go after someone, say like a Scott Sandelin at UMD, Walt Kyle at NMU - someone who has a decent name that would come to Columbus and who's well established but not over the hill. Can you imagine how effective Walt Kyle would be with OSU's resources? Get an established college coach and throw the money at him that's required to get him to leave where he's at. Obviously the university has the money to burn on hockey, because they have to be losing tens of thousands of dollars at every home game currently by opening that building for 2,000 people...curtain or not.

 

[Arpod]

Re: Ohio State U. ( 2009-2010 )

Casey Jones!! Casey Jones!! Casey Jones!! Casey Jones!! Casey Jones!! Casey Jones!! Casey Jones!! Casey Jones!! Casey Jones!! Casey Jones!! Casey Jones!! Casey Jones!! Casey Jones!! Casey Jones!! Casey Jones!!

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[klbaum1077]

Re: Ohio State U. ( 2009-2010 )

Casey Jones!! Casey Jones!! Casey Jones!! Casey Jones!! Casey Jones!! Casey Jones!! Casey Jones!! Casey Jones!! Casey Jones!! Casey Jones!! Casey Jones!! Casey Jones!! Casey Jones!! Casey Jones!! Casey Jones!!

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No way they hire him. It would be like hiring someone off this staff. I dont dislike Casey but too much like markell and it would be a lateral move IMO.

 

[Draighlicht]

Re: Ohio State U. ( 2009-2010 )

I can't imagine Rico leaving for another CCHA school, even Michigan, much less OSU.

Neither can I, but if you are a school looking for someone to build a program you have to make that phone call. What he's done at Miami makes him the 800 pound gorilla sitting in the room if you are looking for a coach. You simply can't ignore him.

He might be on my list, but reality says 'no way he leaves Miami.'

Miami might as well get used to this - every time there's a major (or wannabe major) opening for acoach Rico's name will come up.

 

[Arpod]

Re: Ohio State U. ( 2009-2010 )

No way they hire him. It would be like hiring someone off this staff. I dont dislike Casey but too much like markell and it would be a lateral move IMO.

Actually, I think Casey is not at all like Markell from a coaching perspective (Casey is very well respected as a coach, recruiter, and strategist), and IMHO he was the primary reason why tOSU was able to attract the higher-end recruits they did during his tenure. That said, he is first in line to take the head coaching position at his alma mater, so practically speaking I can't see him coming back. As for poaching from 'that school down south' , I can see going for Bergeron, but I can't imagine Rico would jump ship, as he has that team poised to be top-tier team for a long time...

 

[klbaum1077]

Re: Ohio State U. ( 2009-2010 )

I agree that Rico would not leave miami for another CCHA school. I just want to see a coach get the most out of the talent on this team.

 

[osualum86]

Re: Ohio State U. ( 2009-2010 )

I don't see Rico leaving a perennial top five Miami program for a rebuilding project like ours. I do agree, though, that we should offer him and make him say no. I would be disappointed in our athletic department if they didn't at least talk to him. I don't see him leaving Miami, though, and I don't think he'll have a very hard time turning us down or lose any sleep over it. As for Casey Jones, I don't want him back. Call it guilt by association, I guess, and maybe that's not fair, but that's my opinion on him. I don't think he leaves his alma mater, anyway, to come back here.

 

[THE OHIO STATE]

Re: Ohio State U. ( 2009-2010 )

I agree that Rico would not leave miami for another CCHA school. I just want to see a coach get the most out of the talent on this team.

Good Point.

The Coaches job is to motivate the players and discipline them as needed.

I want to see a Coach any Coach that will " DEVELOP " this team for the present and the future.


Play and develop the " WHOLE " team and not just his favorites.


Example ,

Here is a example of what I'm talking about. Nothing against this kid at all. It's just to show you that the Coach plays some as " OVER-KILL. " Coach needs to rotate more players.


JEFF MCNEIL // 25
Fr., F, 6-3, 205
Mulliken, Mich./Wichita Falls Wildcats (NAHL)
• Has played in 25-of-28 games, sitting out the second game
at Ferris State Nov. 21, the game vs. North Dakota Nov. 27
and vs. Miami Dec. 11
• +1 vs. Quinnipiac Oct. 9, vs. Denver Oct. 16 and vs. Michigan
Dec. 4
• Blocked four shots at Miami Dec. 12 and at Michigan
State Jan. 23
McNeil Career Stats
GP G A P Shots P-PIM +/- PP SH GW
2009-10 25 0 0 0 4 3-6 -2 0 0 0
Total 25 0 0 0 4 3-6 -2 0 0 0
McNeil Career Single-Game Highs
Shots 1 4x, last Nov. 28, 2009 vs. Bemidji State
PIM 2 3x, last Feb. 6, 2010 at Nebraska-Omaha
+/- +1 3x, last Dec. 4, 2009 vs. Michigan


https://www.nmnathletics.com//pdf8/...884739&SPSID=87731&SPID=10406&DB_OEM_ID=17300

 

[redhawk95]

Re: Ohio State U. ( 2009-2010 )

Neither can I, but if you are a school looking for someone to build a program you have to make that phone call. What he's done at Miami makes him the 800 pound gorilla sitting in the room if you are looking for a coach. You simply can't ignore him.

He might be on my list, but reality says 'no way he leaves Miami.'

Miami might as well get used to this - every time there's a major (or wannabe major) opening for acoach Rico's name will come up.

True, true. Well, it's not like we haven't lost coaches in every other sport to larger schools! Ugh...but, let's not go there...please.

 

[osualum86]

Re: Ohio State U. ( 2009-2010 )

Good Point.

The Coaches job is to motivate the players and discipline them as needed.

I want to see a Coach any Coach that will " DEVELOP " this team for the present and the future.


Play and develop the " WHOLE " team and not just his favorites.

THE OHIO STATE, I'm in agreement with you and Klbaum1077. I just want to see us bring in a coach who can recruit talented players and also mold them into a championship-caliber, perennial top five or top ten team year in and year out. Markell has brought in some talented players here, but he's been an epic failure at building a championship-caliber program. That's been my problem with Markell all along. The guy brings in talent, but then does basically nothing with them, and this season has to be the last straw. We have a team full of players who went to the NCAA Tournament last year and will be lucky to get past the first round of the CCHA Tournament this season. Attendance is as low as I have seen it in a long time, and as Brewmaster alluded to earlier in this thread, even the diehards are starting to not come to the games. It is clearly time for a change. One Frozen Four, one Mason Cup, and five or six one-and-dones in the NCAA Tournament in 15 seasons don't cut it.

 

[HckyDoc]

Re: Ohio State U. ( 2009-2010 )

Well I watched this game tonight and the broadcasters made a big deal of Markell being unhappy with his goalies. I don't see how Markell can blame the goalie tonight. OSU's PK sucks, the Nanooks had 1 PP goal and another that might as well have been as the player out of the box wasn't even in the zone yet. The goalie had virtually no chance on the onetimer. The fact is that this team is selfish (I have said it before), poorly coached and unwilling to go to the front of the net to score. I agreed with the announcers that the triple A line was a non-factor and really most of OSU's shots were from the perimeter. I cannot remember one rebound shot on Greenham, again the announcers agreed a "team unwilling to go to the tough areas to score." I thought the goalie, Heeter, had a chance to stop the 3rd goal, but all of the D had collapsed in front of him and he probably never saw it. Too many turnovers with too many odd-man rushes seems to be the norm for the Bucks. There were a couple of big stops that could have given the team a lift, the stop on the breakaway and several big pad saves in the 3rd but no emotion, no spark was to come from it, lifeless would be a good description of how OSU played tonight. This looks to me to be a team that has most of it's players mailing it in. Thought the exceptions were Schneider, Schaefer and Stefishen who all had some jump. It was a good hard working goal by Schneider and I would probably throw Heeter into the players who worked hard tonight. It sure seems as if it is time for Markell to go. Without some sort of miracle this team will not host a playoff series this year.

 

[klbaum1077]

Re: Ohio State U. ( 2009-2010 )

Just got done watching the game. I agree with Hckdoc no emotion at anytime in the game. No drive to the net and the same stuff just a different night against a different jersey. Stupied penalties, bad turnover by a very selfish Bartkowski he has to move the puck up the ice instead of trying to go around the guy at his own blueline that cost them the first goal. The back breaker was the 3rd goal Heeter should have stopped that one he seen enough of it to stop it.

To beat Alaska you have to be very patient and very unselfish in the neutral zone. The way they play if you are not doing those things it will kill you and ohio state did almost nothing when UA went up by 2 goals. At that point the nooks just went into a shell because they knew ohio state wasnt going to do the little things like going hard to the net to get rebounds or getting to the front for a screen and possibly set up a rebound chance. How about with 3 minutes to go down 2 goals puck sent deep in the alaska zone THERE WAS NO FORCHECK AND ALASKA WAS JUST ALLOWED TO COME OUT OF THE ZONE UNHARMED what in the world was that?

If they are going to get into 8th place and host that first round series the effort from all including coaches has to get better starting tomorrow. Markell said he needs his top 2 lines to be threats well i think they need the coaches to look in the mirror and stop blaming the players all the time for everything that goes wrong. Yes there wont ready to play vs a team that traveled over 4000 miles this week and that same team had only 1 win on a friday night on the road. I blame both the coaches and players for that but the coaches have to start accepting blame too.

 

[osualum86]

Re: Ohio State U. ( 2009-2010 )

Mrs 86 and I are heading out tonight. This one just might end up being a sweep for the Nanooks. If we can't beat them in the Friday night game when they just got off a plane from Alaska, I don't know that we can win tonight. I watched on tv last night and saw basically the same things that HckyDoc and Klbaum1077 did. We've got guys who have obviously quit on this season. We have guys trying to carry the puck through two or three defenders instead of beating the pressure with good passing. It seems like it's every man for himself, they're not playing together. I was watching the expressions on Markell's face last night and he looked worried. I think he knows his days as tOSU hockey coach are numbered. Earlier in this thread I had posted about getting a first-round home series, but now I am not so sure. If we leave three points on the ice again tonight, then split at Western Michigan next weekend, we may just end up in 9th or 10th place. Then we have the home and home with the #1 team in the country. It will be interesting to see how we come out tonight. Will we see some inspired hockey tonight or a continuation of last night's listless performance? Time will tell.

 

[THE OHIO STATE]

Re: Ohio State U. ( 2009-2010 )

I agree with all of the above. You guys have said it all in a " NUT-SHELL. "


At the start of this year I really liked this Coach. The first month he benched his Veteran players that he thought were not hustling and he played some of the younger players.
Then it's like after the first month he just quit with his game plan to motivate his players and relied on his favorites to get the job done. Well his plan " BACKED FIRED " in his face.


I say my hockey prayers every night that this program will bring in a Coach that's HUNGRY for the WINS. A Coach that will push his top players for success and develop his younger players for the future.

Like I have said before , I believe that a team is made up of 50% Coaching and 50% players. I also think the players need to carry part of this season for lack of physical effort on the ice. I think some of them thought they could just show up and WIN games this year. We have a few players show up and work hard , but we need 20 players to show up every shift every game WIN or LOSE. " IT'S CALLED WORK ETHIC 100%. "

My question is;

Is there any " CHEMISTRY " between the Coach and the players at all?


OH well , after this season at least we got " SUMMER " to look forward to.


" GO BUCKS GONE. "

 

[HckyDoc]

Re: Ohio State U. ( 2009-2010 )

At the start of this year I really liked this Coach. The first month he benched his Veteran players that he thought were not hustling and he played some of the younger players.
Then it's like after the first month he just quit with his game plan to motivate his players and relied on his favorites to get the job done. Well his plan " BACKED FIRED " in his face.

From what I heard this benching you speak of didn't even last a period and it was dropped because of the aforementioned "panic mode." That is no way to gain the respect or control of your team.

 

[THE OHIO STATE]

Re: Ohio State U. ( 2009-2010 )

OT / WIN. We will take any points we can get this late in the season.


I have always liked goalie Dustin Carlson in net when it comes to Shoot-outs and break- a -ways. I think this has been one of his strong points all year long.


I still think Cal Heeter is our #1 goalie in the long run. But if Heeter can't get the job done at least we have another goalie that can.


That's one thing we haven't had to " WORRY " or " STRESS " about this year , our goalie situation.


" GO BUCKS GO "

 

[Kitchenhockeydad]

Re: Ohio State U. ( 2009-2010 )

I have always liked goalie Dustin Carlson in net when it comes to Shoot-outs and break- a -ways. I think this has been one of his strong points all year long.


I still think Cal Heeter is our #1 goalie in the long run. But if Heeter can't get the job done at least we have another goalie that can.


That's one thing we haven't had to " WORRY " or " STRESS " about this year , our goalie situation.


" GO BUCKS GO "

Perhaps your views are the reason you are not the coach of this team. Luckily we are blessed with the coach we have and his view on the goalies is below!!

http://insidecollegehockey.com/inch/2010/02/12/ccha-osu-defense/

 

[klbaum1077]

Re: Ohio State U. ( 2009-2010 )

I dont think the goalies have played back to back good games this season. If they are going to win games the last 2 weeks and into the playoffs one of the goalies is going to have to get hot and take over games.

 

[Lebron23]

Re: Ohio State U. ( 2009-2010 )

John Gibson cant arrive soon enough. He will be the #1 goalie as soon as he arrives. All the goalies on the OSU roster came in as recruited walk-on's, i believe. Although they both have had their moments, neither of them are starting goaltender worthy at a premier college hockey program, which OSU aspires and should consider themselves as.

 

[Draighlicht]

Re: Ohio State U. ( 2009-2010 )

John Gibson cant arrive soon enough. He will be the #1 goalie as soon as he arrives. All the goalies on the OSU roster came in as recruited walk-on's, i believe. Although they both have had their moments, neither of them are starting goaltender worthy at a premier college hockey program, which OSU aspires and should consider themselves as.

I felt the same way when Joe Palmer arrived three years ago and these two guys beat out Joe. Be careful what you wish for, but Gibson should be good when he gets here in two years.

I wonder who his coach will be?