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Ohio State - It's officially the off-season

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I noticed there were a ton more recruits than Srs leaving. What does that mean? Are players being cut?
 
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Arpod said:
Based on discussion over on the UAH thread and a link kindly posted by GF Morris, it appears the Buckeyes will play two in Huntsville in early November.
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I saw that as well; it's been updated.

Still one more NC game to go. Potentials are North Dakota, Massachusetts Lowell, Vermont, and numerous Atlantic teams. Merrimack and Nebraska Omaha are also possibilities, but given they have 2 left instead of 1, they may try elsewhere.
 
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Red Robin said:
I noticed there were a ton more recruits than Srs leaving. What does that mean? Are players being cut?
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If I counted correctly, there are 12 recruits incoming (Skoff is staying put in the USHL for another year). 10 Seniors left, and 3 players were cut early last season (2 Defense and 1 Forward), so I believe it is balanced. The Buckeyes only had 7 D last year, and with the departing seniors and incoming recruits, they will have 9 in 2011-2012, which is more typical. 3 goalies (Heeter, Hjelle, Michael), and however many forwards. The makeup of the team by class is not so different from the team that last went to the NCAA tourny in 2008-2009. If they play together as a team and we get some scoring (big if), might this team make some noise in the CCHA? Hope springs eternal. :)
 
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Arpod said:
If I counted correctly, there are 12 recruits incoming (Skoff is staying put in the USHL for another year). 10 Seniors left, and 3 players were cut early last season (2 Defense and 1 Forward), so I believe it is balanced. The Buckeyes only had 7 D last year, and with the departing seniors and incoming recruits, they will have 9 in 2011-2012, which is more typical. 3 goalies (Heeter, Hjelle, Michael), and however many forwards. The makeup of the team by class is not so different from the team that last went to the NCAA tourny in 2008-2009. If they play together as a team and we get some scoring (big if), might this team make some noise in the CCHA? Hope springs eternal. :)
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cut for disciplinary issues? Or just cut because not good enough? I always thought that most College teams keep thier players once they make a commitment don't they?
 
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Red Robin said:
cut for disciplinary issues? Or just cut because not good enough? I always thought that most College teams keep thier players once they make a commitment don't they?
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Serious can of worms... If I recall correctly, one was a senior who stayed and finished his degree, two were juniors who left to continue playing (one in the WHL and the other at a university in Canada). Lots of 'discussion' on the boards regarding the basis for the decision to cut who was cut. Discipline issues were not involved. Hopefully it does not rear its ugly head again...
 
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Red Robin said:
cut for disciplinary issues? Or just cut because not good enough? I always thought that most College teams keep thier players once they make a commitment don't they?
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They do...unless the players breach their NCAA contract. Until Osiecki took over at Ohio State. He released three Canadian players last October and told them it was due to "numbers". Precedent now set for any college to do the same. Once the two juniors left, their scholarship money is freed up for some heavy duty recruiting by the new coaching staff.
Lengthy article on Taylor Stefishen (5th round NHL draft pick) by Dean Millard of the Pipeline show written after he and the other boys were released...some interesting reading.
Who knows what this season will bring? More cuts...possibly. Only 9 D so far, but last year only 7 after the cuts. Some forwards last year saw very few games..probably even less this year if they stick around. We'll have to wait and see what happens.
 
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schedule is out.....

https://www.nmnathletics.com//pdf8/768491.pdf?ATCLID=205174906&SPSID=87731&SPID=10406&DB_OEM_ID=17300

Quinnipiac for the third straight year to open the season.

October
1 Saturday WINDSOR (exhibition) Columbus, Ohio
7 Friday QUINNIPIAC Columbus, Ohio
8 Saturday QUINNIPIAC Columbus, Ohio
14 Friday at Notre Dame Notre Dame, Ind.
15 Saturday at Notre Dame Notre Dame, Ind.
20 Thursday at Michigan State East Lansing, Mich.
21 Friday at Michigan State East Lansing, Mich.
28 Friday ALASKA Columbus, Ohio
27 or 29 Thurs. or Sat. ALASKA Columbus, Ohio
November
4 Friday at Alabama‐Huntsville Huntsville, Ala.
5 Saturday at Alabama‐Huntsville Huntsville, Ala.
11 Friday NORTHERN MICHIGAN Columbus, Ohio
12 Saturday NORTHERN MICHIGAN Columbus, Ohio
18 Friday at Michigan Ann Arbor, Mich.
19 Saturday at Michigan Ann Arbor, Mich.
December
2 Friday LAKE SUPERIOR STATE Columbus, Ohio
3 Saturday LAKE SUPERIOR STATE Columbus, Ohio
9 Friday MIAMI Columbus, Ohio
10 Saturday at Miami Oxford, Ohio
RMU Hockey Showcase (Consol Energy Center)
30 Friday at Robert Morris Pittsburgh, Pa.
January
7 Saturday at Bowling Green Bowling Green, Ohio
8 Sunday at Bowling Green Bowling Green, Ohio
13 Friday MICHIGAN Columbus, Ohio
14 Saturday MICHIGAN TBD
20 Friday FERRIS STATE Columbus, Ohio
21 Saturday FERRIS STATE Columbus, Ohio
27 Friday at Lake Superior State Sault Ste. Marie, Mich.
28 Saturday at Lake Superior State Sault Ste. Marie, Mich.
February
3 Friday MICHIGAN STATE Columbus, Ohio
4 Saturday MICHIGAN STATE Columbus, Ohio
10 Friday at Western Michigan Kalamazoo, Mich.
11 Saturday at Western Michigan Kalamazoo, Mich.
24 Friday at Miami Oxford, Ohio
25 Saturday MIAMI Columbus, Ohio
March
2‐4 Fri.‐Sun. CCHA Tournament First Round Campus Sites
9‐11 Fri.‐Sun. CCHA Tournament Quarterfinal Round Campus Sites
16 Friday CCHA Tournament Semifinals Detroit, Mich.
17 Saturday CCHA Tournament Championship Detroit, Mich.
23‐24 Fri.‐Sat. NCAA East Regional Bridgeport, Conn.
23‐24 Fri.‐Sat. NCAA Midwest Regional Green Bay, Wis.
24‐25 Sat.‐Sun. NCAA Northeast Regional Worcester, Mass.
24‐25 Sat.‐Sun. NCAA West Regional St. Paul, Minn.
April
5/7 Thurs./Sat. NCAA Frozen Four Tampa, Fla.
Updated June 21, 2011
 
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Sportsfan1 said:
They do...unless the players breach their NCAA contract. Until Osiecki took over at Ohio State. He released three Canadian players last October and told them it was due to "numbers". Precedent now set for any college to do the same. Once the two juniors left, their scholarship money is freed up for some heavy duty recruiting by the new coaching staff.
Lengthy article on Taylor Stefishen (5th round NHL draft pick) by Dean Millard of the Pipeline show written after he and the other boys were released...some interesting reading.
Who knows what this season will bring? More cuts...possibly. Only 9 D so far, but last year only 7 after the cuts. Some forwards last year saw very few games..probably even less this year if they stick around. We'll have to wait and see what happens.
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Most D-1 teams seem to cut Seniors if they have JR and SO that are equal or better.
 
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Draighlicht said:
schedule is out.....

https://www.nmnathletics.com//pdf8/768491.pdf?ATCLID=205174906&SPSID=87731&SPID=10406&DB_OEM_ID=17300

Quinnipiac for the third straight year to open the season.




October
1 Saturday WINDSOR (exhibition) Columbus, Ohio
7 Friday QUINNIPIAC Columbus, Ohio
8 Saturday QUINNIPIAC Columbus, Ohio
14 Friday at Notre Dame Notre Dame, Ind.
15 Saturday at Notre Dame Notre Dame, Ind.
20 Thursday at Michigan State East Lansing, Mich.
21 Friday at Michigan State East Lansing, Mich.
28 Friday ALASKA Columbus, Ohio
27 or 29 Thurs. or Sat. ALASKA Columbus, Ohio
November
4 Friday at Alabama‐Huntsville Huntsville, Ala.
5 Saturday at Alabama‐Huntsville Huntsville, Ala.
11 Friday NORTHERN MICHIGAN Columbus, Ohio
12 Saturday NORTHERN MICHIGAN Columbus, Ohio
18 Friday at Michigan Ann Arbor, Mich.
19 Saturday at Michigan Ann Arbor, Mich.
December
2 Friday LAKE SUPERIOR STATE Columbus, Ohio
3 Saturday LAKE SUPERIOR STATE Columbus, Ohio
9 Friday MIAMI Columbus, Ohio
10 Saturday at Miami Oxford, Ohio
RMU Hockey Showcase (Consol Energy Center)
30 Friday at Robert Morris Pittsburgh, Pa.
January
7 Saturday at Bowling Green Bowling Green, Ohio
8 Sunday at Bowling Green Bowling Green, Ohio
13 Friday MICHIGAN Columbus, Ohio
14 Saturday MICHIGAN TBD
20 Friday FERRIS STATE Columbus, Ohio
21 Saturday FERRIS STATE Columbus, Ohio
27 Friday at Lake Superior State Sault Ste. Marie, Mich.
28 Saturday at Lake Superior State Sault Ste. Marie, Mich.
February
3 Friday MICHIGAN STATE Columbus, Ohio
4 Saturday MICHIGAN STATE Columbus, Ohio
10 Friday at Western Michigan Kalamazoo, Mich.
11 Saturday at Western Michigan Kalamazoo, Mich.
24 Friday at Miami Oxford, Ohio
25 Saturday MIAMI Columbus, Ohio
March
2‐4 Fri.‐Sun. CCHA Tournament First Round Campus Sites
9‐11 Fri.‐Sun. CCHA Tournament Quarterfinal Round Campus Sites
16 Friday CCHA Tournament Semifinals Detroit, Mich.
17 Saturday CCHA Tournament Championship Detroit, Mich.
23‐24 Fri.‐Sat. NCAA East Regional Bridgeport, Conn.
23‐24 Fri.‐Sat. NCAA Midwest Regional Green Bay, Wis.
24‐25 Sat.‐Sun. NCAA Northeast Regional Worcester, Mass.
24‐25 Sat.‐Sun. NCAA West Regional St. Paul, Minn.
April
5/7 Thurs./Sat. NCAA Frozen Four Tampa, Fla.
Updated June 21, 2011
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Looks like Coach OZ is staying close to Ohio this season. This is the big year for Coach on his wins and loss record. " GO BUCKS GO. "
 
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Draighlicht said:
I look for something above .500. Next year is the critical year for him. Trying to be patient.
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I agree .500 or just above this coming season would be a decent season for me. Next year will be the critical season for him he will have his 1st team of mostly his recurits and will need to show improvement from year 2 to 3.
 
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Congrats to incoming Buckeyes and NHL draft picks Dzingel (7th round), Jardine (6th round), and McCormick (6th round). Should be pretty solid substrate for Coach Oz to work with this year. Although the Freshman class will be big and the Senior class puny, the same was true in 2008-2009 when we made a run to the NCAA tourny. With the right leadership and if the team gets with the program and comes together under Coach Osiecki's system, they could make some waves and suprise folks in the CCHA. Hope springs eternal. :D
 
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interesting article.

The two sports at OSU with the biggest increase in recruiting budgets over the last two years are baseball (+37.30%) and a budget of $18,090, and men's ice hockey (+34.60%) with a budget of $85,000.
I asked about the over 34% increase in recruiting budget for men’s ice hockey and was told that it was a product of a new coach who wanted to place a greater emphasis on recruiting. In looking at the line item budget for men’s ice hockey, there is an overall 4.8% increase in expenses for the 2011-2012 school year, although there is also a 4.5% increase expected in revenue with increased ticket sales.
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link to the entire article which lists budgets for every sport.

http://businessofcollegesports.com/2011/06/02/how-ohio-state-allocates-recruiting-dollars/
 
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Exter looks like a good pickup for Oz's staff but my only question is did Brent leave willingly? I was under the impression from the beginning he was kept on last season because as a former player and coach for OSU he helped bridge the gap for Oz's first season but that his time was limited because once Oz was situated he would probably bring someone in along the lines of his own personal choice. There's nothing wrong in that as many new coaches rarely retain previous staff but I was just curious because OSU's official announcement of his departure made it sound like it was all Steve's decision which I highly doubt. Anyone think differently?
 
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Hockeybuckeye said:
Exter looks like a good pickup for Oz's staff but my only question is did Brent leave willingly? I was under the impression from the beginning he was kept on last season because as a former player and coach for OSU he helped bridge the gap for Oz's first season but that his time was limited because once Oz was situated he would probably bring someone in along the lines of his own personal choice. There's nothing wrong in that as many new coaches rarely retain previous staff but I was just curious because OSU's official announcement of his departure made it sound like it was all Steve's decision which I highly doubt. Anyone think differently?
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Three young kids makes it very difficult to maintain the schedule necessary. I think in this case marriage came first. He quit coaching a few years ago and took a break because of family concerns, so there's no reason to believe anything else.
 
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You only have 2 NC series this year and a holiday tourney? :confused:

These leagues really do need to get smaller.
 
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