Ohio State Coach???

[pgb-ohio]

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Definitely agree. Most of the best coaches played, at least at some level. But there seems to be a perception among many that great players can hang up the skates and immediately be a good head coach at a high level. Some are natural coaches and can do fine; others need to start at a much more elementary level. Some players who were too small or too slow may have a better head for the game and be better equipped to pass knowledge on to others...

Clearly correct, and let me take it one step further. Beyond size and speed, those who were "naturals" as players tend to have trouble teaching the game. They quickly become frustrated with their "lessers." Their instructions tend to boil down to "just do it." The best coaches seem to be those who had to work hard at every step up the ladder. They know how to break down things down into the component parts, because that's exactly what they personally had to do to succeed.

Not really sure if any of this is relevant to Tessa. But "Natural Player" and "Natural Coach" are two different things.

 

[osualum86]

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Definitely agree. Most of the best coaches played, at least at some level. But there seems to be a perception among many that great players can hang up the skates and immediately be a good head coach at a high level. Some are natural coaches and can do fine; others need to start at a much more elementary level. Some players who were too small or too slow may have a better head for the game and be better equipped to pass knowledge on to others.

It's like when a network hires a former athlete to be an announcer for a sport. Because a person can run, jump, or skate, it doesn't necessarily mean that the same person can describe action coherently in real time.

Agreed. Honestly, this whole thing about Tessa is a moot point because if she wanted to be a coach, she would have gotten started well before now. From the couple times I have talked to her, she really enjoys being on TSN. Wish we got TSN down here in the US! If you have ever seen her or talked to her, she is very well-spoken and articulate. I think she will have a great career as a broadcaster. Hey, good luck this weekend! Is your game tonight or tomorrow? I printed off a bracket sheet, but for the quarterfinals, it says March 13th or 14th. I think you and Wisconsin are on a collision course there. It's just a shame it has to be the first game of the Frozen Four instead of the National Title Game. Maybe one day Ohio State can get on that level. It all starts with the athletic administration here bringing in a solid coach and not continuing to treat hockey as an afterthought.

 

[osualum86]

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Clearly correct, and let me take it one step further. Beyond size and speed, those who were "naturals" as players tend to have trouble teaching the game. They quickly become frustrated with their "lessers." Their instructions tend to boil down to "just do it." The best coaches seem to be those who had to work hard at every step up the ladder. They know how to break down things down into the component parts, because that's exactly what they personally had to do to succeed.

Not really sure if any of this is relevant to Tessa. But "Natural Player" and "Natural Coach" are two different things.

Pgb, think there is a lot of truth in your post. Tessa obviously was a gifted player, but she also worked very hard to get where she was at, playing on the Canadian National Team and winning gold at the Vancouver Olympics. ARM, I was just thinking how great you guys have it up there ... all of your remaining games will be home games!

 

[ARM]

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Hey, good luck this weekend! Is your game tonight or tomorrow? I printed off a bracket sheet, but for the quarterfinals, it says March 13th or 14th. I think you and Wisconsin are on a collision course there. It's just a shame it has to be the first game of the Frozen Four instead of the National Title Game.

Thanks. All the games are Saturday afternoon. UW and UM have to win before they worry about Frozen Four opponents. Once you get to that point, you're playing a tough team anyway. I just think more East/West crossover would make for a more interesting event.

Maybe one day Ohio State can get on that level. It all starts with the athletic administration here bringing in a solid coach and not continuing to treat hockey as an afterthought.

It'll happen before long. At one point, we'd have never thought North Dakota would make it before you guys, so things can change quickly.

 

[osualum86]

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Thanks. All the games are Saturday afternoon. UW and UM have to win before they worry about Frozen Four opponents. Once you get to that point, you're playing a tough team anyway. I just think more East/West crossover would make for a more interesting event.

It'll happen before long. At one point, we'd have never thought North Dakota would make it before you guys, so things can change quickly.

ARM, thanks for the reply. I'll be watching or checking the games out tomorrow. Sincerely hoping you are correct on that second paragraph! I love my team, but sometimes during tough times like this, I need to be talked off the ledge (LOL)!

 

[osualum86]

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So, here is the posting on osu.edu.

https://www.jobsatosu.com/postings/61587

The posting end date is 3/22/15, so hopefully they will start the interview process shortly after, if they haven't started it already. I'm straddling the fence on this whole timeline thing. By that, I mean I would like to see a new coach in place soon so he or she can reach out to the recruiting class. OTOH, I want tOSU Ath Dept to take their time and get it right. The well-being of the program depends on them making the right decision here.

 

[Puckdrop14]

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So, here is the posting on osu.edu.

https://www.jobsatosu.com/postings/61587

The posting end date is 3/22/15, so hopefully they will start the interview process shortly after, if they haven't started it already. I'm straddling the fence on this whole timeline thing. By that, I mean I would like to see a new coach in place soon so he or she can reach out to the recruiting class. OTOH, I want tOSU Ath Dept to take their time and get it right. The well-being of the program depends on them making the right decision here.

With such a quick close, one would have to think that the process began before the posting. Is there a school or state rule that requires all openings to be posted?

 

[osualum86]

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With such a quick close, one would have to think that the process began before the posting. Is there a school or state rule that requires all openings to be posted?

I don't know the specifics, honestly, but I would say yes, a public school like Ohio State does have to post all openings. I am hoping for the best in this situation, but the OSU Ath Dept has a history of treating hockey as an afterthought, so I am not holding my breath. Maybe they will surprise me! We have great kids, they deserve the best.

 

[96IllinoisDad]

With such a quick close, one would have to think that the process began before the posting. Is there a school or state rule that requires all openings to be posted?

Again rumor I heard is they were down to 4 candidates before it was even posted. (No idea who)

 

[osualum86]

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Again rumor I heard is they were down to 4 candidates before it was even posted. (No idea who)

Based on what just happened with our previous coach, I don't think Shannon Miller would be a fit here as Mrs 86 and I have heard her vociferously berating her players in the curtained-off area next to the entrance of the visitor locker room. I think the athletic department just forced a guy to resign for doing things like that. One person I sincerely hope is one of those four would be Jenny Potter. She just finished her second season at Division III Trinity College in CT where she led them to the NCAA Division III Playoffs. They were beaten by Elmira in OT, IIRC. I am sure UMD will make a push for her, but if they are as strapped financially as their athletic department says they are, I would think Ohio State could outbid them. We'll see. The OSU Athletic Department has to come through here. Dropping the ball with an underwhelming hire and setting the program back is not an option.

 

[96IllinoisDad]

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Based on what just happened with our previous coach, I don't think Shannon Miller would be a fit here as Mrs 86 and I have heard her vociferously berating her players in the curtained-off area next to the entrance of the visitor locker room. I think the athletic department just forced a guy to resign for doing things like that. One person I sincerely hope is one of those four would be Jenny Potter. She just finished her second season at Division III Trinity College in CT where she led them to the NCAA Division III Playoffs. They were beaten by Elmira in OT, IIRC. I am sure UMD will make a push for her, but if they are as strapped financially as their athletic department says they are, I would think Ohio State could outbid them. We'll see. The OSU Athletic Department has to come through here. Dropping the ball with an underwhelming hire and setting the program back is not an option.

OSU has the most resources of any school. I think it is likely the prime coaching position especially with Suave there and the class coming in.

Prime Candidates:
Mike Sisti - Mercyhurst (My guess he is the candidate at OSU unless someone "better" wins it).
Joel Johnson - UM (Does he want a HC job? If so, OSU has the resources. Stay in Minnesota at UMD or MSU or leave for probably the best situation at OSU.)
Dan Koch - UW (Mankato may be a better fit - lives in Faribault. Pipeline of talent from SSM an hour away. May be time to jump instead of waiting for Jonson to retire.)
Jenny Potter - TU (most ties to UMD and UMD likely needs a women).

 

[ne7minder]

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One person I sincerely hope is one of those four would be Jenny Potter.

On the other thread people keep darkly hinting that she has some horrible baggage but multiple requests for information as to what those would be have been ignored. I'm waiting to see if you mentioning her here will bring them out for further hinting.

 

[crutch]

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OSU has the most resources of any school. I think it is likely the prime coaching position especially with Suave there and the class coming in.

Prime Candidates:
Mike Sisti - Mercyhurst (My guess he is the candidate at OSU unless someone "better" wins it).
Joel Johnson - UM (Does he want a HC job? If so, OSU has the resources. Stay in Minnesota at UMD or MSU or leave for probably the best situation at OSU.)
Dan Koch - UW (Mankato may be a better fit - lives in Faribault. Pipeline of talent from SSM an hour away. May be time to jump instead of waiting for Jonson to retire.)
Jenny Potter - TU (most ties to UMD and UMD likely needs a women).

Let me throw a name out there: Manon Rheaume. Has all the requirements. Coached a number of the incoming commits. Her brother played in the NHL and has been coaching with her. She has a good gig going so would be tough to pull her in but she would add some instant credibility to the program.

 

[Puckdrop14]

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OSU has the most resources of any school. I think it is likely the prime coaching position especially with Suave there and the class coming in.

Prime Candidates:
Mike Sisti - Mercyhurst (My guess he is the candidate at OSU unless someone "better" wins it).
Joel Johnson - UM (Does he want a HC job? If so, OSU has the resources. Stay in Minnesota at UMD or MSU or leave for probably the best situation at OSU.)
Dan Koch - UW (Mankato may be a better fit - lives in Faribault. Pipeline of talent from SSM an hour away. May be time to jump instead of waiting for Jonson to retire.)
Jenny Potter - TU (most ties to UMD and UMD likely needs a women).

Sisti is the King of Mercyhurst! Would he ever leave what he has in Erie? Will OSU feel the need to hire a female coach as a result of the recent events? I still think that Jackie Friesen (UW) is a top candidate and that Potter will end up at UMD.

 

[Call It]

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OSU has the most resources of any school. I think it is likely the prime coaching position especially with Suave there and the class coming in.

Prime Candidates:
Mike Sisti - Mercyhurst (My guess he is the candidate at OSU unless someone "better" wins it).
Joel Johnson - UM (Does he want a HC job? If so, OSU has the resources. Stay in Minnesota at UMD or MSU or leave for probably the best situation at OSU.)
Dan Koch - UW (Mankato may be a better fit - lives in Faribault. Pipeline of talent from SSM an hour away. May be time to jump instead of waiting for Jonson to retire.)
Jenny Potter - TU (most ties to UMD and UMD likely needs a women).

Dan Koch would be an Awesome head coach!

 

[wwhyte]

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Mike Sisti - Mercyhurst (My guess he is the candidate at OSU unless someone "better" wins it).
Joel Johnson - UM (Does he want a HC job? If so, OSU has the resources. Stay in Minnesota at UMD or MSU or leave for probably the best situation at OSU.)
Dan Koch - UW (Mankato may be a better fit - lives in Faribault. Pipeline of talent from SSM an hour away. May be time to jump instead of waiting for Jonson to retire.)
Jenny Potter - TU (most ties to UMD and UMD likely needs a women).

Courtney Kennedy from BC is an obvious candidate, especially since she's already had experience coaching Jincy Dunne with the U18s.

 

[osualum86]

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On the other thread people keep darkly hinting that she has some horrible baggage but multiple requests for information as to what those would be have been ignored. I'm waiting to see if you mentioning her here will bring them out for further hinting.

I was curious about that myself because I had not heard anything about Jenny Potter having any baggage, but as you said, those who made those statements did not respond to your inquiries. All of the candidates mentioned in this thread are solid candidates. I would be happy to get any of them. I had not thought of a couple of them, so thanks to those who mentioned the additional candidates. Hopefully this gets wrapped up soon.

 

[96IllinoisDad]

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Courtney Kennedy from BC is an obvious candidate, especially since she's already had experience coaching Jincy Dunne with the U18s.

Not that it is that big a deal, but Joel Johnson, as head coach, coached Dunne and Gardner this spring - winning gold with the U18.

 

[osualum86]

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Not that it is that big a deal, but Joel Johnson, as head coach, coached Dunne and Gardner this spring - winning gold with the U18.

Salvaging the great recruiting class we have coming in certainly has to factor into OSU's decision!

 

[rangersrule]

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Yeah Dan Koch would be a great coach at either Mankato or Ohio St. but, he isn't leaving Madison! He left SSM to go back to UW four years ago.. and I'll bet he knows he will be the the next Badger head coach when Coach Johnson steps down or moves to another position.. He also is not from Faribault.. He is from Madison. Graduated from a Madison high school and attended UW. I'll also bet he is one of the highest paid assistants in all of college hockey.. I do agree he will be on the top of the list to fill coaching vacancies this off season though!

Dan Koch would be an Awesome head coach!