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rufus said:
Well sure, but jobs have always been a lagging indicator of economic recovery.
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So what. Until people have jobs (unemployment actually decreasing) then all the rest is just academic hand waving.
 
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MattS said:
So what. Until people have jobs (unemployment actually decreasing) then all the rest is just academic hand waving.
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Which is what I said all throughout the Bush years when everyone was raving about how the markets were doing so well, when there were parts of the country that still hadn't felt like they'd gotten over the recession early in his term.

Ouir economy is far more than just the stock market, and, as it's become far more clear over the past few years, is basically just an insiders' game anyway.
 
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Watching him during his speech last night reminded me of a clown riding a bicycle. Almost as funny as the Kool-Aid drinkers gulping down his BS.
 
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5mn_Major said:
I don't think anyones giving O a free pass due to the situation at the end of 2008. And yes, many appointments choices incorporated that situation...ie you can't ignore the hand Obama was dealt as it was fundamental to the team he built.

Frankly 80% of politicians would have bailed the banks out and rightfully so. Without it, add dozens of bankrupcies of the most trusted/extensive banks in the country and the shock waves that would send through the economy. Add to that a stock market crash far beyond and unemployment today significantly beyond where its at. The truth of the matter is that the financial sector has stablized, many of the bailouts have been repayed at a profit, unemployment appears to be plateauing, and healthy investor confidence has pushed the stock market to levels of serious recovery. Assuming the recovery continues, the debt will be reigned in...so far the plan has actually worked quite effectively. Not bad for 10 months in office. Although perhaps not, if you constantly listen to complainers from the right.

Sure there's been too much focus on healthcare. Beyond that, I guess we might as well chock it up to more irrational fear of socialism.
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Here is a novel concept...read the article before you trot out the BS excuses...err...talking points you plan to use to try and refute it. What you said has nothing to do with the subject it is just more crab regurgitated from MSNBC...
 
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MattS said:
What recovery? Yea, the stock markets are doing OK and the GDP was not negative last quarter. I wouldn't be handing out gold stars yet. Until people HAVE JOBS it's doesn't matter. :mad:
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The only recovery that matters...the Megabanks! Citi (and Goldman Sachs) better make sure to make extra nice donations next cycle to pay back Obama for all the help he gave them. They best not be stingy with Barney either!

See you all in 5 years when everything goes bellyup again!
 
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Handyman said:
...it is just more crab regurgitated from MSNBC...
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I had no idea MSNBC was serving seafood. Spoiled seafood apparently too, if 5mn Major regurgitated it. :eek:

As always Handy, you're an idiot, but you probably know this already. :cool:
 
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http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/US-Pr...647092.jpg/;_ylt=AhI7ufHGgttRsTk6R2MnvAnDr7sF


You may have seen this photo in the wake of the president's speech at West Point. Please note: this young man has a chest full of ribbons. And a Combat Infantryman's Badge, which means he's been on the line, under fire, almost certainly in Iraq or Afghanistan. You don't get that lettuce as a cadet. You get it by serving on active duty. In effect, he's going to college on the G.I. bill, but he's picked one hellishly tough school to get into and matriculate from. Secondly, he was reading the book while waiting for the president, absolutely no way he would show that kind of disrespect to his commander in chief.

This young guy is EXACTLY the type of person we want leading our troops in battle.
 
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Old Pio said:
http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/US-Pr...647092.jpg/;_ylt=AhI7ufHGgttRsTk6R2MnvAnDr7sF


You may have seen this photo in the wake of the president's speech at West Point. Please note: this young man has a chest full of ribbons. And a Combat Infantryman's Badge, which means he's been on the line, under fire, almost certainly in Iraq or Afghanistan. You don't get that lettuce as a cadet. You get it by serving on active duty. In effect, he's going to college on the G.I. bill, but he's picked one hellishly tough school to get into and matriculate from. Secondly, he was reading the book while waiting for the president, absolutely no way he would show that kind of disrespect to his commander in chief.

This young guy is EXACTLY the type of person we want leading our troops in battle.
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I think the military has done this in the past. Find outstanding young enlisted men and send them to the Academy. He probably has leadership 1.0 down pat. Now he gets the graduate course.

Would not be surprised that, the Lord willing, he has a long and successful Army career.

Beast Barracks would have been childs play to him. At least nobody there was trying to kill him.
 
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http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/12/03/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5879268.shtml

Gee... Obama lies? I'm shocked I tell ya.

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Of course we have come to expect this from a man who thinks he's slicker than everybody else... I suppose you have to slick to hide such vindictive and petty behavior. The immaturity levels of this president are astounding.
 
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yeah, it's terrible.

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joecct said:
I think the military has done this in the past. Find outstanding young enlisted men and send them to the Academy. He probably has leadership 1.0 down pat. Now he gets the graduate course.

Would not be surprised that, the Lord willing, he has a long and successful Army career.

Beast Barracks would have been childs play to him. At least nobody there was trying to kill him.
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From a junior enlisted's point of view, mustangs make the best officers because they've served as junior enlisteds too, and the problems the guys in the ranks face are more than just a homework assignment. If you're serving in a platoon under that guy, how confident would you be, seeing that CIB on his uni, that he knew what the heck he was doing?
 
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joecct said:
I think the military has done this in the past. Find outstanding young enlisted men and send them to the Academy. He probably has leadership 1.0 down pat. Now he gets the graduate course.
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They actually do have appointments to the Point for EMs and NCOs. I received one near the tail-end of my six year hitch from the general who was in charge of U.S. Army-Europe(?) in the late 80s. I turned it down since I would have been required to do a year at the Point's prep school, even though my SATs were over 1400, and re-up to ensure I would have been in the machine for at least another 4-6 years in case I didn't make it through the Point. Definitely a good problem to have though. As for the cadet in the picture, he has at least two Army Commendation medals, and a few other ribbons given for good service. So, I'd bet he'll do well in the future.

/hoo-ah! :)
 
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