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Obama XIV: President VISTA with SP2
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moe24
Original Lawson Lunatic
Re: Obama XIV: President VISTA with SP2
And what's with their line about "no reasonable expectation of privacy in your driveway"? Are they serious? How about trying a reasonable expectation to not be trespassed upon, or it's none of the government's business where I drive? Or how about tracking me amounts to a search and the Bill of Rights having something to say about that.
Always nice to see the 9th Circuit court doing what it does best, make sh1t up. No need to worry about the constitution, we'll just decide how the west should be run!
And what's with their line about "no reasonable expectation of privacy in your driveway"? Are they serious? How about trying a reasonable expectation to not be trespassed upon, or it's none of the government's business where I drive? Or how about tracking me amounts to a search and the Bill of Rights having something to say about that.
Shirtless Guy
Old Dirty Basterd
Re: Obama XIV: President VISTA with SP2
I like the part where a they claimed a delivery guy can walk in the driveway without permission, I think there is implied permission when agreeing to have something delivered to you!
moe24
Original Lawson Lunatic
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I have a feeling the SCOTUS will strike this down, likely unanimously and with Roberts leading the charge.
I have a feeling the SCOTUS will strike this down, likely unanimously and with Roberts leading the charge.
moe24
Original Lawson Lunatic
Re: Obama XIV: President VISTA with SP2
And it's not like the delivery guy is planting a tracking device on any of your property.
And it's not like the delivery guy is planting a tracking device on any of your property.
ScottM
**** it feels good to be a bankster
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Surprising as hell the 9th Circuit would rule in favor of the feds on this one. Even the FBI needs a FISA warrant to wiretap potential terrorists or read their emails. I can't see why GPS would not require a warrant. Unless Congress acts first, the Supremes will probably step in. And then it's anyone's guess how they'll rule.
Surprising as hell the 9th Circuit would rule in favor of the feds on this one. Even the FBI needs a FISA warrant to wiretap potential terrorists or read their emails. I can't see why GPS would not require a warrant. Unless Congress acts first, the Supremes will probably step in. And then it's anyone's guess how they'll rule.
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BTW, I noticed the knucks' avoided this story, but here's the result of right wing xenophobia regarding the mosque in Manhatten:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/08/26/new.york.muslim.stabbed/index.html?hpt=Sbin
BTW, I noticed the knucks' avoided this story, but here's the result of right wing xenophobia regarding the mosque in Manhatten:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/08/26/new.york.muslim.stabbed/index.html?hpt=Sbin
Shirtless Guy
Old Dirty Basterd
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Thats the RESULT of right wing xenophobia? Now who's lumping everyone into groups? Conservatives are no more responsible for this idiot's actions than Islam is for 9/11...or is that what you wanted me to say?BTW, I noticed the knucks' avoided this story, but here's the result of right wing xenophobia regarding the mosque in Manhatten:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/08/26/new.york.muslim.stabbed/index.html?hpt=Sbin
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So in your world, conservatives who oppose the mosque are responsible for some idiot stabbing a cab driver because he's Muslim? Nice logic.
SteveF
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that certainly sucks. but i'm not sure the court isn't right in their interpretation of privacy in your driveway. in the nice planet thread, i was appalled by a story about a man who was arrested for child abuse when he tackled an underage tresspasser in his yard because he 'wasnt defending his house' at that point.
i dont agree with either interpretation, but atleast they are consistent that your yard/driveway is not your home. of course i assume that means we should all get federal funds to maintain those places since we dont own them!
that certainly sucks. but i'm not sure the court isn't right in their interpretation of privacy in your driveway. in the nice planet thread, i was appalled by a story about a man who was arrested for child abuse when he tackled an underage tresspasser in his yard because he 'wasnt defending his house' at that point.
i dont agree with either interpretation, but atleast they are consistent that your yard/driveway is not your home. of course i assume that means we should all get federal funds to maintain those places since we dont own them!
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Bakunin, meet Rover.
So in your world, conservatives who oppose the mosque are responsible for some idiot stabbing a cab driver because he's Muslim? Nice logic.
Bakunin, meet Rover.
Re: Obama XIV: President VISTA with SP2
I thought there was a point beyond which even the intellectually dishonest libs who post here would not go. I was wrong.
BTW, I noticed the knucks' avoided this story, but here's the result of right wing xenophobia regarding the mosque in Manhatten:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/08/26/new.york.muslim.stabbed/index.html?hpt=Sbin
I thought there was a point beyond which even the intellectually dishonest libs who post here would not go. I was wrong.
French Rage
NICKERSON HAS [CENSORED]
Re: Obama XIV: President VISTA with SP2
Unless it's guarded apparently. So if you want that pot-growing van in your driveway, pay a homeless guy to stand watch at the end of it.
And if there's one thing that united people of all races, religions, and creeds, it's that they dissociate themselves from Rover.
Unless it's guarded apparently. So if you want that pot-growing van in your driveway, pay a homeless guy to stand watch at the end of it.
And if there's one thing that united people of all races, religions, and creeds, it's that they dissociate themselves from Rover.
rufus
rock and roller
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Actually, it's a cultural center, with space available there to pray.
Actually, it's a cultural center, with space available there to pray.
ExileOnDaytonStreet
Drunkard
Re: Obama XIV: President VISTA with SP2
The last time they stepped in, didn't they unanimously uphold stopping in the name of love? (Or was it a motion to find out where their love went?) Seems like that could be the sort of precident that would leave them upholding this as well. In fact, I fully expect them to second that emotion.
The last time they stepped in, didn't they unanimously uphold stopping in the name of love? (Or was it a motion to find out where their love went?) Seems like that could be the sort of precident that would leave them upholding this as well. In fact, I fully expect them to second that emotion.
French Rage
NICKERSON HAS [CENSORED]
Re: Obama XIV: President VISTA with SP2
I just hope they're not too conservative, I don't want their rulings to be reflections of the way life used to be.
I just hope they're not too conservative, I don't want their rulings to be reflections of the way life used to be.
Patman
Rodent of Unusual Size
Re: Obama XIV: President VISTA with SP2
Hey, does anybody want to get out the "anti-Jewish" vs. "anti-Islam" rates... yeah, it turns out based on 2008 population figures (wiki) and hate crime stats (FBI) there's 4.7 times as many hate crimes per capita against Jews as there are against Muslims.
Hey, does anybody want to get out the "anti-Jewish" vs. "anti-Islam" rates... yeah, it turns out based on 2008 population figures (wiki) and hate crime stats (FBI) there's 4.7 times as many hate crimes per capita against Jews as there are against Muslims.
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Clearly, that's the result of the pro-Palestinian / anti-Israeli left in this country.
Patman
Rodent of Unusual Size
Re: Obama XIV: President VISTA with SP2
well, but when they do it, it doesn't make the news... when some freaky art student goes all sideways, its them teabaggers... when a Carnahan staffer blows up a Carnahan office, its them teabaggers... when a man of Islamic-world extraction parks a fuel bomb in Times Square, its them teabaggers.
Those teabaggers will do just about anything that they won't do.
Clearly, that's the result of the pro-Palestinian / anti-Israeli left in this country.
well, but when they do it, it doesn't make the news... when some freaky art student goes all sideways, its them teabaggers... when a Carnahan staffer blows up a Carnahan office, its them teabaggers... when a man of Islamic-world extraction parks a fuel bomb in Times Square, its them teabaggers.
Those teabaggers will do just about anything that they won't do.
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