Re: Obama XIII: It's all Bush's fault.
So why not just have a Flat Tax where there are no deductions? Sounds like you'd support that.
So why not just have a Flat Tax where there are no deductions? Sounds like you'd support that.
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Patman
Rodent of Unusual Size
Re: Obama XIII: It's all Bush's fault.
Then what the hell good is that? Define "retail".
Either you buy it for me or you explain it yourself.
translation... businesses don't have to pay the "fair tax".
Then what the hell good is that? Define "retail".
Either you buy it for me or you explain it yourself.
translation... businesses don't have to pay the "fair tax".
Re: Obama XIII: It's all Bush's fault.
I'm assuming that 99% of 'the rich' would not want to share a cell with Wesley Snipes or Randy Quaid so they follow the law when paying taxes. I'm sure we could find years where recognized losses or deferred income influence the numbers and we can throw those percentages out as proof 'the rich', as a group, don't pay their taxes.
If the progressive tax structure and legal rules for deductions mean that person X pays less than the highest possible amount, I don't think that is a crime against society. If any of us claim deductions then we don't pay the highest percentage possible either. I know plenty of people that time donations or visits to goodwill etc to make sure they are done before year end...I don't think they are screwing me or the country.
If it is legal, then it is legal.
I'm assuming that 99% of 'the rich' would not want to share a cell with Wesley Snipes or Randy Quaid so they follow the law when paying taxes. I'm sure we could find years where recognized losses or deferred income influence the numbers and we can throw those percentages out as proof 'the rich', as a group, don't pay their taxes.
If the progressive tax structure and legal rules for deductions mean that person X pays less than the highest possible amount, I don't think that is a crime against society. If any of us claim deductions then we don't pay the highest percentage possible either. I know plenty of people that time donations or visits to goodwill etc to make sure they are done before year end...I don't think they are screwing me or the country.
If it is legal, then it is legal.
Kepler
Cornell Big Red
Re: Obama XIII: It's all Bush's fault.
This is a perfect example of the difference between "equal," "fair," and "just."
This is a perfect example of the difference between "equal," "fair," and "just."
unofan
Well-known member
Re: Obama XIII: It's all Bush's fault.
Yeah, why is it whenever anyone complains about loopholes, people always respond with "then you must support the Fairtax or flat tax!"
Why do we have to go the extra step and change the entire dynamic of the current system instead of just maintaining the current graduated system without the loopholes?
"I don't like part A of X!"
"Then you must support Y since it doesn't have A!"
"No, I want to keep X, just without part A."
This is a perfect example of the difference between "equal," "fair," and "just."
Yeah, why is it whenever anyone complains about loopholes, people always respond with "then you must support the Fairtax or flat tax!"
Why do we have to go the extra step and change the entire dynamic of the current system instead of just maintaining the current graduated system without the loopholes?
"I don't like part A of X!"
"Then you must support Y since it doesn't have A!"
"No, I want to keep X, just without part A."
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Patman
Rodent of Unusual Size
Re: Obama XIII: It's all Bush's fault.
Eh... i think its one part purity and one part "kill it to save it" (see healthcare).
Eh... i think its one part purity and one part "kill it to save it" (see healthcare).
walrus
Wind up workin' in a gas station
Re: Obama XIII: It's all Bush's fault.
I long for the days of Bobo, he was the king of snarky
I long for the days of Bobo, he was the king of snarky
Patman
Rodent of Unusual Size
Re: Obama XIII: It's all Bush's fault.
the whole thing is interesting because she got sacked within a span of less than 8 hours yesterday from head to tail.
I have to wonder if the White House is panicking or something. Either that or they are so owing to the "tea party is racist" meme that they can't take the distraction from letting any other issues extend out.
Still, many possibilities... gone in the span of a work day. Gone in a matter of hours. I really think they're spooked.
edit: one possibility is that they just plain clean sacked her in advance of a massive conflict of interest... she represented a group suing the USDA obtaining a million$ (billion$?) settlement immediately before she became part of the USDA. This would be something that would come out in the aftermath/controversy that otherwise we would never know/follow up.
Lets note that she works at the pleasure of the president, an appointee.
the whole thing is interesting because she got sacked within a span of less than 8 hours yesterday from head to tail.
I have to wonder if the White House is panicking or something. Either that or they are so owing to the "tea party is racist" meme that they can't take the distraction from letting any other issues extend out.
Still, many possibilities... gone in the span of a work day. Gone in a matter of hours. I really think they're spooked.
edit: one possibility is that they just plain clean sacked her in advance of a massive conflict of interest... she represented a group suing the USDA obtaining a million$ (billion$?) settlement immediately before she became part of the USDA. This would be something that would come out in the aftermath/controversy that otherwise we would never know/follow up.
Lets note that she works at the pleasure of the president, an appointee.
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WeWantMore
New member
Re: Obama XIII: It's all Bush's fault.
Here's the full video.
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/07/20/video-naacp-posts-full-sherrod-video/
Crazy rush to judgment by Vilsack I guess. Clearly makes him a racist.
Also in the backtrack department, the White House announced they will send Berwick's nomination to the Senate after all. Didn't see that coming at all.
Here's the full video.
http://hotair.com/archives/2010/07/20/video-naacp-posts-full-sherrod-video/
Crazy rush to judgment by Vilsack I guess. Clearly makes him a racist.
Also in the backtrack department, the White House announced they will send Berwick's nomination to the Senate after all. Didn't see that coming at all.
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Re: Obama XIII: It's all Bush's fault.
Who ever thought that, of all government agencies, the USDA could be at the center of such a political cluster-eff. ???
Who ever thought that, of all government agencies, the USDA could be at the center of such a political cluster-eff. ???
ScottM
**** it feels good to be a bankster
Re: Obama XIII: It's all Bush's fault.
It manages some of the country's largest welfare programs, and is a bureaucratic nightmare. So the fact some political hack would pull the trigger on this woman, based solely on news clips, doesn't really surprise me.
It manages some of the country's largest welfare programs, and is a bureaucratic nightmare. So the fact some political hack would pull the trigger on this woman, based solely on news clips, doesn't really surprise me.
WeWantMore
New member
Re: Obama XIII: It's all Bush's fault.
The White House "expects Vilsack to remain" in his position.
So, gone by Friday then.
The White House "expects Vilsack to remain" in his position.
So, gone by Friday then.
Re: Obama XIII: It's all Bush's fault.
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/articles/2010/07/11/how_facts_backfire/?page=full
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/articles/2010/07/11/how_facts_backfire/?page=full
Re: Obama XIII: It's all Bush's fault.
So, the bus is in the maintenance barn until Thursday then?
So, the bus is in the maintenance barn until Thursday then?
busterman62
I got a pocket full of kryptonite
huskyfan
New member
Re: Obama XIII: It's all Bush's fault.
ha!
Thankfully, this isn't a problem around here
ha!
Re: Obama XIII: It's all Bush's fault.
We have another new term for illegal aliens, courtesy of the USDA (specifically the Forest Service). It seems that an illegal alien from Mexico was caught raising marijuana in the Shasta-Trinity National Forest in California and the Forest Service press release referred to him as a "displaced foreign traveler".
We have another new term for illegal aliens, courtesy of the USDA (specifically the Forest Service). It seems that an illegal alien from Mexico was caught raising marijuana in the Shasta-Trinity National Forest in California and the Forest Service press release referred to him as a "displaced foreign traveler".
Hux
Alfond to Ridder & rinks in between
dxmnkd316
Lucia Apologist
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