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Obama XII: The shine is off the glass slipper

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Cut the four biggest slices in half today and you have my vote. In 2005 those accounted for 68% of the budget; if the percentages held that would be a 34% spending cut or .34 x $3.55T = $1.2T, exactly the anticipated size of this year's deficit.

Problem solved. Except of course for even proposing that we'd be burned at the stake by both the right and the left.

Edit: In 2010, still 68%. So cut away, but prepare to be boarded by the DOD, Lockheed-Martin, the AMA, and the AARP.

Well, you've got 12.8 million people on SSI & SSDI. Claims have jumped by 700,000 since 2008. I'd have to say that there are a number of fraudulent claims in that group. Start with that--I've seen the abuse of SSI first-hand working in banks.

The military needs to clean up its act. While they are the best fighting force in the world, they leave much to be desired when it comes to efficiency and cost control measures. That'd be #2 on my list; I'm certain that at least a 10-15% cost savings could be achieved solely on cost control measures.

Cracking down on Medicare fraud/waste/abuse was one of Obama's selling points for his health care bill. He got his bill, yet I haven't seen nor heard anything about how the $500 billion annually in wastefraudabuse is going to be sniffed out and stopped. That would put a HUGE dent in the deficit, though I'm not holding my breath waiting for anything to happen. Obama said he'd address the federal budget; it's been a year and a half and nothing on that front.

Aside from that, eliminating tax loopholes wouldn't be an altogether bad idea. This would allow for the lowering of tax rates across the board, and also allow for the bottom tax bracket to include everyone down to the lowest earners. Obviously, there will most likely never be agreement on a flat/fair/VA tax. Even if the lowest bracket were at 5-6% rate, an income tax implementation policy (tax increases/decreases being proportional across all brackets) it would take away incentive for our politicians to attempt to buy votes with biased class-warfare-style tax policies, and would draw much-needed public attention to federal fiscal policies and expenditures.

Just my two cents.
 
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I doubt the Chinese are going to start anything that retarded with their largest export market.

They may just stinkpalm us:

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"Small price to pay for the smiting of one's enemies."
 
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Well, you've got 12.8 million people on SSI & SSDI. Claims have jumped by 700,000 since 2008. I'd have to say that there are a number of fraudulent claims in that group. Start with that--I've seen the abuse of SSI first-hand working in banks.

The military needs to clean up its act. While they are the best fighting force in the world, they leave much to be desired when it comes to efficiency and cost control measures. That'd be #2 on my list; I'm certain that at least a 10-15% cost savings could be achieved solely on cost control measures.

Cracking down on Medicare fraud/waste/abuse was one of Obama's selling points for his health care bill. He got his bill, yet I haven't seen nor heard anything about how the $500 billion annually in wastefraudabuse is going to be sniffed out and stopped. That would put a HUGE dent in the deficit, though I'm not holding my breath waiting for anything to happen. Obama said he'd address the federal budget; it's been a year and a half and nothing on that front.

Aside from that, eliminating tax loopholes wouldn't be an altogether bad idea. This would allow for the lowering of tax rates across the board, and also allow for the bottom tax bracket to include everyone down to the lowest earners. Obviously, there will most likely never be agreement on a flat/fair/VA tax. Even if the lowest bracket were at 5-6% rate, an income tax implementation policy (tax increases/decreases being proportional across all brackets) it would take away incentive for our politicians to attempt to buy votes with biased class-warfare-style tax policies, and would draw much-needed public attention to federal fiscal policies and expenditures.

Just my two cents.

You can't be serious. No cuts. Fraud and abuse is your grand scheme for balancing the budget? Good freaking luck.
 
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With the current monstrosity of the Federal Tax Code, the richest are in the best position to hire expert CPAs and lawyers to avoid paying their share of taxes. Implementation of the Fair Tax, or a flat tax for that matter, would allow for the elimination of the current tax code and put everyone on an equal footing from a tax perspective. Congress isn't crazy about either the Fair Tax or a flat tax because it would mean they can't game the system as easily to benefit their favorite lobbyists and contributors.
 
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You can't be serious. No cuts. Fraud and abuse is your grand scheme for balancing the budget? Good freaking luck.

By my calculations, that'd put a trillion dollar dent in the deficit. Enlighten us to your master plan, assclam.
 
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By my calculations, that'd put a trillion dollar dent in the deficit. Enlighten us to your master plan, assclam.

That's the same plan as Bush, Obama, and every other clown that ran for President.

You wanna balance the budget you better cut something cause looking for needles in haystacks in Washington has NEVER SAVED a dime of taxpayer money.

My plan? Cut Social Security and Medicare. If you paid into already, tough, it's general funds anyway. That's a 12% tax cut across the board AND I just eliminated 34% of the budget.
 
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That's the same plan as Bush, Obama, and every other clown that ran for President.

You wanna balance the budget you better cut something cause looking for needles in haystacks in Washington has NEVER SAVED a dime of taxpayer money.

My plan? Cut Social Security and Medicare. If you paid into already, tough, it's general funds anyway. That's a 12% tax cut across the board AND I just eliminated 34% of the budget.
Not that I don't agree with you that the alrming growth in the entitlement side of the house is, well, alarming, but I hope you have an airline ticket to a remote country or a friend in witness protection, because you are going to be drawn and quartered at the first opportunity.
 
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Seriously? C'mon.......I worded it in a way that I thought even YOU couldn't twist.

I hereby dub thee "Dreidel, Master of Spin" :D

Anti-semite. :p ;)

BTW, Obama is, inevitably, pushing a line-item veto, which every president, Republican or Dem, since Reagan has wanted and every Congress, Republican or Dem, since Reagan has opposed. There's some bipartisanship right there.

As long as we're amending the Constitution, I'll take a Balanced Budget Amendment, an ERA, and repeal of the Second Amendment, to go.
 
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Not that I don't agree with you that the alrming growth in the entitlement side of the house is, well, alarming, but I hope you have an airline ticket to a remote country or a friend in witness protection, because you are going to be drawn and quartered at the first opportunity.

Greece? What's that? Is that a town or something?
 
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Not that I don't agree with you that the alrming growth in the entitlement side of the house is, well, alarming, but I hope you have an airline ticket to a remote country or a friend in witness protection, because you are going to be drawn and quartered at the first opportunity.

Yeah, but while he fails finding his fraud and abuse (which he will cause they all do) my plan actually balances the budget. I'll be safe anyway cause thank God no one is ever going to elect me for anything.

Now, next he'll come up with the across the board cuts (a.k.a. starve the government). That's a Palin (Tea Party) standard. It doesn't work, we tried it in Minnesota. All it really does is create budget crisis after budget crisis cause no one ever wants to cut anything and no one ever wants to raise taxes.
 
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next he'll come up with the across the board cuts (a.k.a. starve the government)

One reason it doesn't work is it's pitched as "starve the government," which is dishonest. If it was marketed as "starve the recipient," and we got consensus, then we'd be on to something. It would go something like this:

"I'll give up my home mortgage deduction if gramps gives up his social security if Shaniqua gives up her welfare if Billy Bob gives up his Medicaid if ADM gives up their subsidies if Northrop gives up their wastefraudabuse."

I am willing to give up $1 of benefits if I can screw the rest of you out of $5 of benefits. Multiply that billions of times. Deficit reduction by spite.
 
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the reds don't buy votes with tax cuts for the wealthy, the wealthy were already going to vote...and they weren't on the fence about whom to vote for (even George, Oprah, Spielberg etc are set in stone, just the other way)...it may be a back scratching exercise with other topics such as regulation etc but if votes are to be bought it would be logical to seek them amongst a group that wasn't likely to vote or would have possibly voted the other way...not that I'm implying that was the case in the last election;)
 
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Well, you've got 12.8 million people on SSI & SSDI. Claims have jumped by 700,000 since 2008.

Could that be because the baby boomers are retiring?
 
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Do you even know what SSI and SSDI are? It has nothing to do with retirees.

Why'd you have to ruin it right away? Why couldn't you have strung him along a little bit before dropping the hammer? It's always more fun to watch Priceless act like he knows what he's talking about a little longer.
 
Plante26 said:
I'm bracing for the Democrat's inevitable and idiotic, "You don't like this nominee because she's gay!" attack on anyone that opposes her. Much like everyone who dislikes Obama's policies is racist, the Sotomayor opponents are anti-Latino and anti-women's rights, and--of course--all Tea Partiers are hatemongers.

I guarantee the "You are a gay-hater!" rhetoric will start by week's end.

Which sophomorically deflects from the fact that some people will in fact oppose her because she is gay. That's not a defense for those that will knee-jerk to legitimate criticisms of the nomination, but get over it.
 
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Which sophomorically deflects from the fact that some people will in fact oppose her because she is gay. That's not a defense for those that will knee-jerk to legitimate criticisms of the nomination, but get over it.

Wait, she's for reals gay?
 
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